Who should have called Ovi or Armaan?W Pg.15 - Page 10

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Fact - I saw no gun on Purvi's or Arjun's head. Yes, it was emotional blackmail to begin with, but who told Purvi to take all decisions on behalf of Archana...To be, Purvi acted the GOD here and decided on behalf on everyone...

The Agree with your second fact. I blame Archana here for the mess that happened after such a revelation...

I agree with it too...but again belittling what Ovi must have endured after breaking of her socially accepted engagement that was announced in Canada and India, is belittling the emotional roller-coaster that many girls endures when marriage are broken after engagement. It is simply not fun - esp. in a traditional country such as India. In fact, I know true story this happened in Canada and the parents/daughter suffered many months of depression...

The notion that if you love someone set is free -- is a little outdated by POV, but again I agree I am too dominating and a go-getter personality to just sit and wait...I guess I am aggressive too, I guess by-product of by job...

Of Course, it was a bargain - and both sides were playing to win - and Arjun was the barter - I see no wrong - I guess professional hazard...

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

Are you saying that in 20 years, armaan didn't find the time to call or visit Ovi? Do you need to be in the same place to talk to a person? Is this matter so trivial that they can't make a little effort as parents to talk to her or arjun and find out the truth, especially when we know for sure that arjun made the effort to clear the misunderstanding several times? Archana made a call to arjun even though she hated him for purvi's sake, didn't she? Couldn't she have picked that phone and asked to talk to Ovi or even Pia once in 20 years?

Because the relationships are different. Armaan are parents to both Ovi and purvi, and they have encountered very similar situations in both daughter's lives. BUT their reactions to the situations are very different. Ovi's relationship with arjun can be compared to purvi's relationship with arjun--not with her parents. If you want to make that comparison, why didn't purvi give a chance to arjun to explain when she had lied to him about life-changing things so many times and he always forgave her and continued to love her? That's a different topic, right? Here, we are only talking about parent-child relationships. At least that's the purpose of this thread by TM.

Originally posted by: pallavi25

When there is no answer to logical questions then its back to mocking and ridicule! 😕

The question is why Ovi kept in touch with Arjun who never showed any interest in Pia inspite of knowing abt her? But why she didnt keep in touch with her own parents, whom she had hidden Pia's secret from?

Ovi was fine being a single parent, and she never had any expectations from Arjun regarding Pia. When a person doesn't have expectations from another, then there is no reason of staying upset at them for something or breaking contact with them. From her parents however she may have had the expectation that they would allow her the benefit of the doubt and ask her about the truth as the same courtesy was extended to Purvi in a similar situation. I am sure, if they had called Ovi she would not have refused to talk to them.

Her hiding Pia's secret was nowhere as severe a circumstance as Purvi, who not only hid her pregnancy, but also passed it off as Onir's baby and then the baby swap issue. Both the girls should have come clean before their secrets were brought forth by another source, but when the truth was revealed, the results for both daughters were very different. With such partial parents who automatically believe the worst of their daughter on the basis of a tale from another without even giving her one chance of explaining herself or verifying the truth for themselves, why should the daughter go begging them to hear out her side of the story? It was more of ArMan's responsibility to call Ovi than vice versa.

Yes, Purvi donated Arjun to Ovi for her mother's sake! I wonder if Ovi would ever donate anything for her parents sake? She doesnt even bother to meet them after 20 yrs when they are right there and asking for her whereabouts! She sneaks away when her twin sister is calling her name. Her parents, her family never mattered to her, only her obsession with Arjun mattered.

Purvi giving up Arjun did nothing for her mother. The truth was the only thing that allowed Archana to reunite with her family. Ovi on the other hand covered up for Arjun-Purvi in the hospital when Archana came out from coma to not give her unnecessary stress as per doctor's orders. Purvi's "donations" only brought unhappiness and shame to her mother What did she think that Archu would happily settle with Manav knowing her daughter gave up the man she loved? There is no use of "donation" when it yields no good or when its completely unwarranted. If Ovi were obsessed with Arjun, she would have never let him go. Right now, she is only helping Arjun since he has asked for her help and while her family [from whom she may have expected better] thought she was a homewrecker, Arjun never doubted her loyalty towards him [even regarding Pia] which is why he turned to her for help. She is helping the one person who didn't automatically believe the worst of her, so what's wrong in that? Plus, she is constantly advising him to do the right thing, but in the end it is not her truth to tell. She had to hide from her parents for precisely the same reason, as she was trying to fulfill the last wish of a dying man who is also the father of her daughter. Ovi has a reason for still staying away from them, but what reason do the parents have that they would rather do Ankita's marriage rather than immediately start looking for the daughter they so cruelly abandoned? Why are the parents giving more priority to Purvi's marriage instead of first finding Ovi, when Purvi's false tale was the reason for Ovi's abandonment? When Purvi first told Archana about the truth, both of their reactions were "omg that was so bad for Purvi", not " omg where are ovi and pia for the last 20 years"? So Ovi should have called these unconcerned parents to ask them to listen to her side of the story?

Originally posted by: soniiyaa

I agree with most of what you said especially the second paragraph. The first paragraph are a alot of what ifs or simply put just rationalization of Ovis actions. We don't know about what her expectations were of Arman or Arjun etc. But its true we still love people even if they made a thousand mistakes but then why didn't ovi extend that love to her parents inspite of their mistakes if she did with Arjun in those 20 yrs? Again, i do want to tell you, i feel arman and ovi are BOTH responsible for calling e/o. That was my answer to muse's topic.

I just thought it was interesting that Ovi did that. I never realized that. It was like a light bulb moment lol. But thank you for writing that, i really enjoyed it and you make a lot of good points!

Oh Gosh!

Now I feel terrible about starting this thread!

Just to reassert my initial post -

We do not know everything. But it has been made clear that this set of parents and child have not been in contact with one another for 20 years.

My initial question was only about the situation. I only asked whether or not in a situation such as the above, parents are more responsible for taking the initiative to make contact in view of the widely held belief that parents' love is unconditional. And if they are, then is the current track in PR consistent with its title and glorifying of the lead characters?

And I do appreciate all the wonderful responses pertaining directly to that question! Thank you all for that.

But I sincerely apologize for having started the thread ! Please forgive me.

Originally posted by: nikki1591

bartering human emtions is dispicable. they are not objects but people. but if there is no worng in that, and purvi played to win her mothers happiness, then there is nothing wrong in her playing God then. its then called bartering.😃

there is nothing wrong in being a go getter, but when said person has told you they dont want you and one still doesnt listen it called being obssesive. if ovi was a male, nobody would even be having this discussion. they call it male domination and stalking. nobody is belitting ovi for her heartbreak after arjun betrayel but for the fact that she emotionally blackmailed purvi into giving up arjun. and ovi at 19 years old is old enough to know that is wrong. even a 12 year old knows that

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

It is not a question of whether Ovi is innocent or not. The topic is about who had/has a greater responsibility to reach out between the parents and the child (and yeah I know Ovi is an adult, but to her parents she is their child). And this is not about bio vs adopted either, in fact a lot of the posts including mine have not mentioned this at all. It is about blatantly favoring one daughter over the other to the point that one is abandoned on the other's interpretation of the situation without verification of the facts by the parents; especially when this courtesy was accorded to the second daughter (purvi) when she had arguably done an even more egregious mistake (hiding Pari's truth and swapping babies).

Originally posted by: Kalapi

but whether it was called bartering or bartering human emotions, fact is they were bartering human emotions and lives. btw why is it that whenever people point out discrepencies, u resort to saying that u were misinterprested?

just bc it happens often does not make it right. wars often happen, suicide often happens, does not make it right. what happens often has no relevance to whether it is right or wrong. and if the whole deal bartered human emotions, which we both agree is despicable, then how was it not wrong😕

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

I think armaan have a greater responsibility as parents😊. And like I said in my earlier post, we can't really compare one's relationship with parents, siblings, lovers and friends on the same scale. They are all significant relationships, but also very different--they come with different expectations and responsibilities. So comparing Ovi forgiving arjun vs her parents isn't the right comparison. Though, Ovi doesn't seem to hold a grudge against her parents either. She was happy when she knew they had finally come to take her back into the fold. That actually supports the argument that she had tried to tell the truth, but they didn't listen. Anyways, I'm done! Goodnight!