Who should have called Ovi or Armaan?W Pg.15 - Page 9

Originally posted by: Kalapi

So, you agree that you are laughing at a member openly, fallacy or not is debatable, and as a member I believe the rule of the forum is to present one's view without belittling/mocking fellow debaters. It is also the rule of a good debate. It is extremely demoralizing and disrespectful to laugh at an argument simply because you think that it is 'poor' argument. It breaks the spirit of camaraderie needed for smooth functioning of a forum such as this. anyway, I leave it to fellow members to decide and conclude whether this is an acceptable conduct in a virtual world...Besides, thinking/assuming that the other member is unaware of actual facts or is cooking up storyline is actual an 'assumption' that breaks the spirit of the debate as well as creates an unpleasant environment. I leave the rest to the fellow members to decide...

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

But didn't they think she was living with arjun in India? You can't have it both ways-- that they knew she was with arjun so they didn't care about her and they didn't know where she was, so they couldn't ask her. The truth as shown in the serial is the first option--they knew where she was and they just didn't bother to talk to her, ever.

Originally posted by: nikki1591

FACT: a person cannot be snatched, unless they are blackmailed or have a gun held to their head, a person usually makes the decision to leave or stay in the relationship.

FACT: when purvi found out about arjun being engaged to ovi, she broke of the relationship

FACT: arjun and purvi became engaged only after arjun ovi relationship had been broken off

FACT: if you love someone, you do not try to force them to accept you bc loving means wanting the best for them, not the best for you.

btw if it is wrong that Purvi was seriously wrong when she told Arjun to marry ovi if Arjun loved Purvi, then how is only slightly wrong that ovi told purvi to give arjun back if she loved her mother and wanted to make her mother happy. they both blackmailed him with love. but of course theres no bias in that😆

Originally posted by: pallavi25

Oh, Come on! You and ur fellow members do this all the time, especially the one you are defending so staunchly, is always ridiculing and mocking other members who dont agree with her and so do you!

Anyway its no use arguing with you when you dont have any proper answers for the debatable points or questions asked but just jump in and start fighting directly with members.

Henceforth please dont quote me as I dont want to have anymore interactions with you!

Originally posted by: nikki1591

FACT: a person cannot be snatched, unless they are blackmailed or have a gun held to their head, a person usually makes the decision to leave or stay in the relationship.

FACT: when purvi found out about arjun being engaged to ovi, she broke of the relationship

FACT: arjun and purvi became engaged only after arjun ovi relationship had been broken off

FACT: if you love someone, you do not try to force them to accept you bc loving means wanting the best for them, not the best for you.

btw if it is wrong that Purvi was seriously wrong when she told Arjun to marry ovi if Arjun loved Purvi, then how is only slightly wrong that ovi told purvi to give arjun back if she loved her mother and wanted to make her mother happy. they both blackmailed him with love. but of course theres no bias in that😆

Originally posted by: soniiyaa

Thanks! Yeah, i was trying to point the "selection of facts" shown. Everyone was wrong but only Arvi are always blamed for everything. Ovi is always the victim. :/ but theres no point here, its banging you head against bricks!

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

while this would be true of a normal situation, isnt it posssible that arman looked at the fact that ovi hid a pregnancy, hid a child, was not in a known relationship w/ anyone at that point and came to the conclusion that why would anyone hide a preganancy unless they had a secret to hide. isn't it also possible that her family who knew her history and a history that consist of marrying a man who was in love with someone else, knew that she was obssesed with a man and had seen her go to any lengths to be with him, that this is a possible conclusion that she was having an affair. isn't it possible that considering all the circumstances it was believable that ovi would do something like that. or that perhaps at some point as human beings they were tired of her doing w/e she wanted w/o consideration to anyone else feelings and felt that she crossed the boundary of all return. because parents are human too and even they have their limits. and why is it that someone who needed the most support hid the pregnancy from her parents and was away from their ill child for months at a time. she could have come for the wedding and used the excuse that she still needed to complete the assignment. but instead she stayed. so it seems like she didnt need as much support.

Originally posted by: pallavi25

Yes, they thought she was with Arjun in India for last 20 yrs, but ArMaan were in Canada, werent they? How would they sit and talk to Ovi? They were never in the same place at the same time like in the case of Purvi.

Why exactly did Ovi hide herself from them? And why is she still hiding from them? Why is Arjun always more important for her than her own parents and her family?

and BTW you brought up the instance of Purvi being given a chance and not me. I am still on topic, as to why Ovi kept in touch with Arjun but not with her parents?

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

Is it possible that she doesn't expect anything from arjun but expected that her parents would support her no matter what? Is it possible that she was hurt that they had decided to believe the worst of her and disowned her, without any verification, when she needed help and their support and love the most? Is it possible that she's accepted that arjun is only a friend, her friend, and that she cares for him even though he doesn't in the same way for her so she's ok with that relationship the way it is? But that she expected that her dad and the rest of her family who did love her, who had raised her and who had known her all her life, to hear her out, to understand her stance and love her unconditionally?

And there are double standards and different measures for every character and every relationship. Didn't purvi sell arjun out on the day of their wedding, betrayed him in the worst possible way, but he still continued to love her? Didn't she hide the truth of his baby (ies) from him and did she not leave him when she saw him with Ovi and Pia without giving him a single chance to explain? Did she not allow pari to develop hatred for arjun? Isn't it interesting that arjun continues to love this woman who has never chosen him anytime there was a choice and betrayed him more than once, when he takes for granted a loyal friend who was once his wife and the mother of his daughter? How can we explain this? How can we explain archana's ego that she willingly parted with all her biological children to prove a point to manav? How can we explain archana's love for varsha that made her ignore manav and give away soham as a baby when she knew their history--- varsha had already kidnapped soham once and had been obsessed with him. These and a lot more relationships in the show and maybe in real life are not easily explained, but they exist. The problem with ARMAN and Ovi vs Purvi is that both are their children, but they have different yardsticks for measuring them. This when the relationship between parents and children should be the one relationship that is a constant---it shouldn't change depending on who the child is! A person can behave differently with different friends, more caring towards one or the other. Even siblings, you can be closer to one more than the other (s). But for parents, all children are the same. Or at least, they should be!

Originally posted by: pallavi25

Oh, Come on! You and ur fellow members do this all the time, especially the one you are defending so staunchly, is always ridiculing and mocking other members who dont agree with her and so do you!

Anyway its no use arguing with you when you dont have any proper answers for the debatable points or questions asked but just jump in and start fighting directly with members.

Henceforth please dont quote me as I dont want to have anymore interactions with you!