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Tanyaz

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Posted: 11 years ago

#31

Agree with Aurora .

I only want to talk about Arjun here .He is being unfair to both his daughters ..

He was not with Pari in her growing years and she is a very hurt and a sad girl because she feels that her dad never wanted her . Even if he has only 2 days to live ( he has 2 full months ) he should spend that time in trying to make it up with Pari and give her as much love as he can .

At least that way she can be happy one day that she was loved by her daddy ..

As for Pia , I just don't know what to say ..

It is absolutely inhuman the way Arjun is shown to be dealing with this poor girl .What is her fault ? That her mother is not Purvi but Ovi ...

that shows Arjun in a terrible light .

More than this I don't want to comment because this whole story track is just pathetic , boring and senseless ...

I just hope that the writers just finish thi particular story and start a new story for Arjun and Purvi .Something that will be liked and be a bit more entertaining

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Tejaswini Wenham

@tejaswiniwenham

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Posted: 11 years ago

#32

Originally posted by: Aurora.
I am probably the odd one out here cause i like both Arvi and Ovi😆.I agree with the tm though Arjun should be more sensitive towards Pia...no matter who the mother is!!Pia is his Own child his Flesh And blood...i dont see how Arjun doesnt treat her at par with pari.
Arjun Can treat a tina as his own to fill the void pari created in his life(no matter how silly his reasons for staying away from her are ..stupid cvs butchered Arvi😡) but he cant go and spend time with the daughter he had access to😕😕!!
Correct me if i am wrong but didnt Arjun tell purvi that he treated tina as his own..because pari was not there with him and he had no daughter!!what stopped him from being with pia??
Seriously I love arjun...but he fails as a father...To both Pari and Pia

Thank you for putting this so beautifully aurora. @bold i didn't realize that! hadn't watched the episode. really? then that clears up everything- he doesn't even consider pia his daughter. and @ashlaika ur right, we do perhaps interpret information differently. all I'm saying is, arjun just has to show me that he cares about pia just a bit. not even on par with pari. i don't think in order to highlight his relationship with his daughters, the cvs have to highlight arjuns relationship with the mothers. pia is his daughter, he is a dying man, if ovi can fly to india for him in les than an absurd day, she probe didn't stop his visiting pia. arjun shud b shown, as tanya pointed out, making up to his children. not playing silly games with his women. it doesn't move the focus from arvi's tragedy for him to take the phone from ovi and say hi to his child. thats all. but as I've said before, if it is shown that he had some semblance of a relationship with Pia or that ovi had objected to that, i will take it back- then he's not a terrible father just a weak one.

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sowmya

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Posted: 11 years ago

#33

Originally posted by: tejaswiniwenham

Thank you for putting this so beautifully aurora. @bold i didn't realize that! hadn't watched the episode. really? then that clears up everything- he doesn't even consider pia his daughter. and @ashlaika ur right, we do perhaps interpret information differently. all I'm saying is, arjun just has to show me that he cares about pia just a bit. not even on par with pari. i don't think in order to highlight his relationship with his daughters, the cvs have to highlight arjuns relationship with the mothers. pia is his daughter, he is a dying man, if ovi can fly to india for him in les than an absurd day, she probe didn't stop his visiting pia. arjun shud b shown, as tanya pointed out, making up to his children. not playing silly games with his women. it doesn't move the focus from arvi's tragedy for him to take the phone from ovi and say hi to his child. thats all. but as I've said before, if it is shown that he had some semblance of a relationship with Pia or that ovi had objected to that, i will take it back- then he's not a terrible father just a weak one.

Actually tejaswini, if ovi had prevented Arjun from being in contact with pia, shouldn't he be missing her terribly as well? They have clearly shown multiple times that he loves pari n is missing her, n that he calls Tina his daughter to fill the void in his life. Like aurora said, if he had pia then he already has a daughter who calls him dad so Tina is superfluous. If he doesn't have pia, why isn't he missing her? I haven't heard or seen him mention her once! In fact, his maidservant thinks he has only one daughter in Canada and told purvi so. I'm very unhappy with ovi too in this matter coz she's helping a man who's not only taken her for granted always, but doesn't even care about her daughter. Completely disappointed in her. But since this topic is on Arjun, it is clear he does not and never has cared for pia. And it was really unnecessary that its shown this way, because he could have had a single monologue or memory where he remembered pia. His servant could have mentioned once that he's missing both his daughters rather than not mention one at all. Such simple things that truly show a persons character. And what they say about Arjun is worse than all his earlier faults because how can one not care, even a little, about ones own flesh and blood. He has great role models in archana n manav though, so with no other guidance maybe that's where he gets it from. Disgusted at archana n manav even more than Arjun, disgusting abnormal parents.

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 11 years ago

#34

i think Pari , poor thing , is in for a slap , by none other than Purvi when she comes to know of Arjun's sickness and hears daughter mouthing hate speeches for dad

this will be CV way of showing Purvi's pyaar . Smells that way .

Actually Pari is not at fault . The question she asked Arjun is very true ...why did u not keep contact for so many years .

Arjun has no answer for this . And never will . He will just stay open mouthed looking like a boiled potato . [ I hope he has a mohawk haircut that time ...i hope the brain surgery requires his scalp to be shaved . He will look cute with an open mouth and a mohawk .]

Pari is the victim of both Purvi and Arjun ...Purvi's manmoth ego and Arjun's slavish wimpiness . Arjun should try telling her that he was respecting Purvi's space as he had been trained to implicitly obey her commands in their relationship . He should tell her how he did that faithfully and contented himself by cutting birthday cakes every year [ of her mom not her] instead .

I want to see Pari's reaction on this .

I would love it if she turned into the greatest vamp PR has produced . I want her to give gaalis to her mom and call her dad some ear burning names .

I would like HER to search for Pia and have a soft corner for her coz both endured the same thing .

But my wishes r never fulfilled , they r too good to be true.

So i say let her turn vamp and make ARVI bhikaaris in which they can sit side by side on the road after 20 YEARS and exhange 'pyaar' .😈

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Tejaswini Wenham

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Posted: 11 years ago

#35

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

Actually tejaswini, if ovi had prevented Arjun from being in contact with pia, shouldn't he be missing her terribly as well? They have clearly shown multiple times that he loves pari n is missing her, n that he calls Tina his daughter to fill the void in his life. Like aurora said, if he had pia then he already has a daughter who calls him dad so Tina is superfluous. If he doesn't have pia, why isn't he missing her? I haven't heard or seen him mention her once! In fact, his maidservant thinks he has only one daughter in Canada and told purvi so. I'm very unhappy with ovi too in this matter coz she's helping a man who's not only taken her for granted always, but doesn't even care about her daughter. Completely disappointed in her. But since this topic is on Arjun, it is clear he does not and never has cared for pia. And it was really unnecessary that its shown this way, because he could have had a single monologue or memory where he remembered pia. His servant could have mentioned once that he's missing both his daughters rather than not mention one at all. Such simple things that truly show a persons character. And what they say about Arjun is worse than all his earlier faults because how can one not care, even a little, about ones own flesh and blood. He has great role models in archana n manav though, so with no other guidance maybe that's where he gets it from. Disgusted at archana n manav even more than Arjun, disgusting abnormal parents.

Somya i had mentioned the bold part in my previous thread. all i mean by this post is that i'm presuming myself to be a victim of bayesian bias and framing effect and giving arjun the benefit of the doubt. I want to see if he is seen to show any feelings for Pia. many believe the focus is on arvi and thus their daughter is being highlighted and arjuns relationship with pia not being mentioned. i just don't think thats logical. they showed the same situation in kkusum where abhay raised kali and kkusum raised kumud. kalis mother was never the focus but they concentrated on kali's story parallel to kumud. so idk y they r unable to do that now in pr? y can't arjun be shown to have some semblance a relationship with Pia even if the focus is not on arovi? i honestly just don't understand how a lead protagonist can be shown as a careless father. maybe if he grows yes. but a careless man on his death bed who doesn't seem to care for his children is just a twee bit distasteful.

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Tanyaz

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Posted: 11 years ago

#36

I don't think Pia is part of the story at all...

This is a fictional show and not reality so such things do happen like when Archana was in coma not once it was shown that Vaishali came to see her or now also Archana and Sulochna never enquired about Varsha or even Vinod . Manav and Savita were never shown checking on Vandita ...

It is because Varsha , Vandita , Vinod and Vaishali are not part of the story anymore ...new viewers come and they are hardly bothered about the old characters ...

Pia is probably not a part of the main story ...it I really silly but I think this is the main reason why Arjun hardly ever talks about her .

I am not even sure how much Ovi will be part of the show .I know Shruti was looking for other roles .Just like Shravani was packed off to America and she was not shown even when her son was getting married , maybe if Ovi too will go back . Some stories work and some don't ...

The writers see the public's response and then they continue with a track or change it ..

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Tejaswini Wenham

@tejaswiniwenham

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Posted: 11 years ago

#37

Originally posted by: Tanyaz
I don't think Pia is part of the story at all...
This is a fictional show and not reality so such things do happen like when Archana was in coma not once it was shown that Vaishali came to see her or now also Archana and Sulochna never enquired about Varsha . Manav and Savita were never shown checking on Vandita ...

It is because Varsha , Vandita and Vaishali are not part of the story anymore ...new viewers come and they are hardly bothered about the old characters ...

Pia is probably not a part of the main story ...it I really silly but I think this is the main reason why Arjun hardly ever talks about her .

tanya i would agree with you if she hadn't been mentioned at all. varsha, vaishali and vandita are all faded out. noone has mentioned them ever since they disappeared. but by virtue of ovi having conversations with her, archana and purvi talking about her and arjun and ovi mentioning her, Pia exists. if the PH doesn't want to afford another actor then the smart move would've been to completely fade out Pia and Ovi with an afterthought like- oh! now that arvi is back together, d-clan is searching for ovi. they don't need to find her and Pia. But as long as the idea of Pia is being thrown around, arjun's underperformance as a father will come into question.

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 11 years ago

#38

dunno , the CVs may bring Pia in as a trump card to spice the story but i heard PR is ending so really dunno .

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Kalapi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#39

Originally posted by: tejaswiniwenham

Teju you said what I had in mind. In have seen nasty divorces, where the parents don't even see each other face, but the Kids are different. There was not a single Question that Arjun asked, that showed he was close to Pia or atleast kept a tab on her life. And if Ovi kept her away from him too - then he should feel the same longing for Pia he feels for PAri - he was shown as almost vacuum in that particular episode - a flawed Dad for sure...what a sad depiction of this character...