Originally posted by: tejaswiniwenham
I agree, Pia is not the reason for ArVi's separation and neither is Ovi a direct reason for ArVi's separation as well.
But lets not get into the Ovi-Purvi debate.
Your issue here is that you feel Arjun loves one more than the other.
From what I have seen, and I have been watching the episodes (unfortunately) is that Arjun has more contact with Pia than Pari, he knows more about her and therefore will not have the same intensity of longing.
From what I got in the last 2 episodes or so that Ive watched on tele is that he has actually never interacted with Pia in the last 20 years as per Ovi's statement- Bachpan se sirf apni aai ko hi to dekha hai. and arjun just nods awkwardly. So shouldn't the longing be just as bad?
Im not making it an excuse, but we have all agreed at one time or another that the exact dialogues on PR dont make sense and don't necessarily interrelate with each other. Because I recall Arjun telling Purvi that he hears from Ovi and Pia. I also recall that Arjun called Ovi up and she came right away, that implies (and we have to use inferences here as they dont make sense with dialogues and they dont show everything)... but it does imply that Ovi and Arjun are on an amicable basis. Not love, but some sort of friendship... and he knows her whereabouts and phone number, so that also means that he DOES have contact with them in some form, shape or manner.
NEVER once in any of the episodes was it shown that he loves Pari more. The story is such that the focus is on Pari for 2 reasons. First, she is the child he has with Purvi and whether we want to acknowledge it or not, Pari will be given more importance cause the writers gave more importance to Purvi. Just as Purvi was given more importance over Ovi-Teju cause she was the one raised by Archana. Its not an issue, its just where the focus of the story is. Secondly, they will focus on Pari more cause he does not have ANY relation with Pari right now. We can assume from the episodes and since him and Ovi have remained "friends" that he at least knows about Pia and whats happening. Like I mentioned, him and Ovi spoke about her a few episodes ago.
Ya they did speak but he didn't ask her anything about Pia other than- she must be missing you a lot, you should go home. there was no other question or curiosity on Arjuns part. just a way to politely ask ovi to leave now that his work was done. which is fair enough i guess.
As to who Arjun loves more. NO ONE, can tell me he loves one over the other even if she shows favouritism towards one. I can live in the same house hold as my siblings and sometimes my own parents can like one over the other. We can all argue and scream and say that "we are suppose to love all our children equally". But many parents out there can tell you that you love all your children in different ways and individually and uniquely. That love is not shown in the same way for all and that love may not be visible to the eye. I know MANY mothers who have a little bit of love and affection towards their son over their daughters. Same way a child can live under the same roof as their parents and them and their father or mother will not see eye to eye or may not even get along.
You've said it yourself, when they live under the same roof, parents do get along with one child better than the other, sometimes. But here the children don't live with the dad. the dad has no idea about the personality of his two children. so the idea that he would differentiate based on personality is null. arjun's only point of differentiating is based on who the mother is. thats just unfair.
Again we are assuming that Arjun knows nothing of Pia. But just as u watch the episode and see it one way, I watch the episode and interpret it a different way. Im not saying that HE IS differentiating between Pia and Pari, Im only saying that love for a child is different with every child and his love for Pari and Pia are shown differently. Im not saying its right, nor am I saying Arjun is completely right. Im just saying it happens. We also dont know what has happened in the last 20 years. We know that Pari hate Arjun. Until they show us Pia and they actually show us her feelings towards Arjun we can only infer from what we have seen. We agree that you and I see things differently and I dont see Arjun as unfair. Stupid sometimes, weak sometimes, but never selfish for his own gains.
Until it has been evident in the show, I will not agree that Arjun only wants Pari and not Pia and he only loves Pari and not Pia. For me, and to my mind's eye... he loves them both. Just in different ways. AND what will not change is that the writers will continue to focus on Purvi-Arjun (ArVi) and hence, Pari will still be the child that they are gonna show a love-hate parental bond with.
That does not make Arjun selfish, weak or any of the derogatory words we want to throw at him.
I admire Arjun's love for purvi and pari. he has a lot of great qualities. the fool tries his best and life has dealt him a short stick. BUT theres no denying that he is, idk if selfish or weak would be the correct words, but definitely indifferent towards Pia. In 20 years he exchanged texts with ovi but that was it. maybe asked about Pia but the fact is he could've kept Pia with him during summer holidays, gone on holidays with her, been there for school functions and pta meetings- the whole shebang. he definitely had the money to do it. now you may ask how do i know he didn't do that? well thats what I got from his and ovi's conversation- there was noone but ovi in Pia's life. ovi wouldn't have stopped him. and you don't need to be with the mother to care for your children. all that he couldn't do for Pari, he could've done for Pia- there was no majboori there. now if they show that he did interact with Pia at least for 3 months a year, then i will take back everything I've said. and i agree with your focus on pari thing but thats a flaw in the cvs mind. they needed to show arjun being just as distraught about Pia as he is about Pari. that scene with Ovi was the perfect opportunity. they could've shown arjun take the phone from ovi and talk to his daughter. or just ask ovi qusetions-hows her studies going? how tall is she? what has she been upto lately? three sentences and he would've established himself as an acceptable father for Pia. that would make him seem so much better as a lead. that would've shown that he would've been a good father to all his children and life just dealt him a bad hand. right now he's doing nothing to deserve sympathy other than dying. I'm sorry to jump in and I get it that arjun is your favorite but if Purvi and Ovi fans can agree to their flaws then I'm sure that you will agree- His indifference to Pia's upbringing is maybe his only completely inexcusable flaw. now you can choose to ignore that flaw in his character being a fan- I'm sure i often ignore flaws with ovi- but you cannot deny this. he's been a bad father to Pia. that doesn't make him an animal- only humans can choose to be indifferent to their children. it makes him human.
I'm sorry to jump in and I get it that arjun is your favorite
You and I will agree to disagree and I appreciate you responding in such a nice manner.
But before I get into this, I know Arjun has MANY flaws... many of them I have pointed out on this forum many times. But I dont have favourites, Its kinda hard to have faves in this show called PR. However, I dont hide from the fact that I do like ArVi together and I do believe in love. My defense for Arjun is simply because of all the characters, I feel he has been the one short changed the most and like you said, given the shortest end of the stick. Ovi has been redeemed, Purvi has been given a sanctuary, but Arjun has never been given a story to redeem himself or to justify him or to make him grow and more loveable. He has always been the scapegoat in every storyline. I understand some of what he has been tru and what he is going tru. As to faves, Im not that blind to any flaws and I wont call Arjun mine, but I will defend him in this cause I feel is always the one left out to dry. (How many times have we seen ppl defend Purvi and Ovi and never Arjun, and turn every topic into Purvi, Ovi and just disregard him?).
In 20 years...
In the 20 years passed with know what was it from Pari and Purvi's end and that Pari has no contact with her father and wanted none. But we dont exactly know what was the case of Ovi and Pia. So, at the inception Ovi did not want Arjun to know that Pia was alive and his. When everything hit the roof, for all we know Ovi left and she too restricted contact between Pia and Arjun. Maybe she didnt want Pia to know about her family, maybe she didnt want Arjun to be a significant part in Pia's life. We keep saying what could Arjun have done and not done. But what about the others. No man is an island and to get from one place to another we must each build bridges and sometimes meet half way. So now I ask, What did Ovi do and what did Ovi want and what did Ovi encourage?!!! We point out very readily that Purvi may or may not have turned Pari against Arjun and Arjun doesnt know her. But, now we have to ask, what did Ovi ask. Maybe for all we know she asked Arjun to stay away from his daughter. He may have respected that request. We simply cannot just throw all the blame on Arjun and say what Arjun could have done. We dont know the full story and the CVs dont know how to tell a comprehensive story. Its upto us to infer from what we have seen, and from the lack of information, I see it one way and you see it another.
but thats a flaw in the cvs mind. they needed to show arjun being just as distraught about Pia as he is about Pari.
Yes... this is exactly what Im saying, they will NOT and never show Pia and make her a part of the story. We are to infer everything else. We choose to infer differently. Offense meant to the CVs, they are NOT smart and they cannot multitask their minds and they dont think beyond ONE direction (the story not the band 😉) ... and as far as they are concerned, the story is ArVi and therefore Pari will be the daughter that has to have the love-hate relationship with her father. If they made it about Pia-Arjun, then Ovi would be the mother they focus on. And the stupid CVs cannot focus on more than one woman/mother at a time. So, they will focus on ArVi, Purvi and Pari.
We know that it seems wrong and once again, Arjun is the one in the frying pan, but we choose to watch this senseless story and try to make sense of it. There is no continuity in the track and their is no real logic. For that we have to take it as they SHOW us... and they are gonna show us Pari. That doesnt mean he doesnt love Pia (unless shown otherwise).
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