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Posted: 11 years ago
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As per ACTUAL episode they only shows that arjun had called pari/purvi... they have never mentioned that this is his first call in 10 years ...if we can assume that arjun called pari first time at age 10 than why we can't assume that due to purvi..arjun was unable to connect with pari?????

@ Bold. Exactly. As per Arjun's dialogue in the actual episode, he tried to call her many times and the last time he called them was on Pari's birthday when Pari snubs Arjun. So, a man who could call his estranged wife and daughter many times in spite of his wife not giving him any chances to explain himself suddenly stops calling them. And according to the episode, the ACTUAL reason that Arjun stopped calling them was not Purvi's indifference but Pari's snubbing him. So he stopped calling them simply because a child (his small daughter) in her childish immaturity snubbed him? His anger towards Purvi is justified. I would have understood if he wanted to have nothing to do with Purvi after all the attempts he made. But is his indifference towards Pari justifiable too?.. Pari might have hated him but shouldn't that have triggered warning signals that he is losing his child and shouldn't that have been a reason enough for him to want to reach to her? And as per the post leap episodes, Purvi would not have stopped him from meeting his child had he wanted to do so. I understand his self-respect was important-hence I could have identified with the self -respect issue had he severed his ties with Purvi: any normal man would have done that, but I don't understand how he preserved his self-respect by severing ties with his child.

why every time she represent herself as bichari if front of her daughter who is left by husband for masi??which daughter wants to talk wid father who left her mother for another woman and another daughter????

@ Blue : I agree again. No daughter who thinks that her mother has been cheated by her father for her masi would want to talk to that father. But when Purvi left with Pari she was just a toddler, a child who had just turned one. So for another couple of years or may be more, she was just a child who could not understand the miseries of the World. Hence she was not in a position to know about the status of her parent's relationship and draw her own inferences out of them. Why didn't Arjun try to clear the stand of his and Ovi's relationship with Deshmukhs and Purvi during that time? Purvi might not have listened to him, AGREED, but there were Archana, Manav and even Sulochana with whom he could have talked. In one of the flashback scenes, DK even asks him to reconsider his decision. So even if he didn't want to confront either of them himself, he could have taken DK's help. Even if we assume that Purvi was representing herself as a bechari in front of Pari, it doesn't still negate the FACT that Arjun was an absentee father and that was as bad as Purvi's portrayal of bechari woman for Pari to hate him.

regarding purvi told pari to talk with father...this is also not half hearted attempt????if arjun's attempt was half hearted for clarification than m seeing purvi's attempt too half hearted here.

@Bold: That was a half-hearted attempt but a continuous attempt nevertheless. Not like Arjun's who stopped making even those half-hearted attempts when a child snubbed him.

is this what a real mother does?? she was doing pari's upbringing but was representing her father in very negative way due to her false hateness... Acc. to me pari is innocent as a child...arjun is 30% at fault that not fight for custody or meeting rights and purvi is 70% at fault for creating negative impression of father ,for not trusting arjun, simply left him nd never try to listen to him nd at last due to ego and hateness for arjun...she painted her daughter's childhood with bitter nd hateness feeling...that kid is hating father but feeling very bad for not having father too.

@ Purple: Purvi's hatred towards Arjun was not false: it was kinda understandable. According to the pre leap episodes, she goes to Canada to make amends with her estranged husband and comes to know about Pia's parentage and gets a shock of her life. She even collapses in the hospital wherein Doctor Onir calls for emergency operation.

What had happened of this child we do not still know? However, from the dialogues in the recent episodes, it seems that Pari is their only child and hence Purvi had miscarried in Canada after that shock. If she had indeed miscarried and then seen Arjun and Ovi in one room with the child, it was very natural for her to think the worst about Arjun. First of all Arjun lies about his whereabouts, then she comes to know about Pia's parentage, probably miscarriages, then sees her husband and sister with the child under her sister's roof and assumes the worst. On top of that Arjun doesn't come clean about when Pia was conceived and hence continues to let her assume the worst.

Now if Arvi's second child is still ALIVE, it doesn't portray Arjun in any good light either. Rather than shaking the sense into his pregnant and hence hormonal wife, he just signs the divorce papers ( again a FACT shown in one of the flashback scenes) and lets her walk out of his life when she was in need of his love and support the most, hence reinforcing her suspicion about Arjun and Ovi's relationship. And then he doesn't bother to ask or even know about his second child at any point of time for 20 years.

And I do not BUY that before 20 years leap Purvi was FAKING her pregnancy. Because it was none other than the World's Best OBGYN Dr. Onir Dutta who had confirmed about Purvi's 2nd pregnancy.

Nowhere it is shown in the ACTUAL episodes that Purvi had either poisoned Pari's mind against Arjun or was portraying him in a negative light. It could have come from other sources or Pari could have formed her own perspectives about her father as he was absent ever since she had known the actual meaning of father.

However, I DO agree that Purvi more than Arjun was at fault for the entire separation at the first place. Purvi had always been impulsive and she was indeed wrong to assume the worst about Arjun and not give him a chance to explain then.

But Arjun was also at fault for not trying to make stronger reconciliation attempts. If Purvi had assumed worst of him, it was in his hands to explain the truth to her. We all know that communication has never been one of Arjun's stronger points, but If he had really wanted to make Purvi hear him, he could have done so. When he could literally drag her out of her home during a rainy night to make her hear his love confessions, he could indeed have made her hear about his innocence had he wanted to do so.

Edited by bitasta - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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^^^ @ bitasta, OMG, did someone actually say Purvi was faking her 2nd pregnancy? 😲
Wow, thats a new and very nasty allegation against Purvi!
Why would she fake a pregnancy? 😲
Didnt they clearly show Dr. Onir confirming her pregnancy and also telling Arjun abt it?
I guess people dont watch PR regularly but still accuse Purvi of all sorts of things!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25

^^^ @ bitasta, OMG, did someone actually say Purvi was faking her 2nd pregnancy? 😲

Wow, thats a new and very nasty allegation against Purvi!
Why would she fake a pregnancy? 😲
Didnt they clearly show Dr. Onir confirming her pregnancy and also telling Arjun abt it?
I guess people dont watch PR regularly but still accuse Purvi of all sorts of things!

I had read it somewhere...
Edited by bitasta - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bitasta

As per ACTUAL episode they only shows that arjun had called pari/purvi... they have never mentioned that this is his first call in 10 years ...if we can assume that arjun called pari first time at age 10 than why we can't assume that due to purvi..arjun was unable to connect with pari?????

@ Bold. Exactly. As per Arjun's dialogue in the actual episode, he tried to call her many times and the last time he called them was on Pari's birthday when Pari snubs Arjun. So a man who could call his estranged wife and daughter many times in spite his wife not giving him any chance to explain himself suddenly stops calling them. And according to the episode, the ACTUAL reason that Arjun stopped calling them was not Purvi's indifference but Pari's snubbing him. So he stopped calling them simply because a child in her childish immaturity snubbed him? His anger towards Purvi is justified. I would have understood if he wanted to have nothing to do with Purvi after all the attempts he made. But is his indifference towards Pari justifiable too?.. She might have hated him but shouldn't that have triggered warning signals that he is losing his child and shouldn't that have been a reason enough for him to want to reach to his child? And as per the post leap episodes, Purvi would not have stopped him from meeting his child had he wanted to do so. I understand his self-respect was important-hence I could have identified with the self -respect issue had he severed his ties with Purvi: any normal man would have done that, but I don't understand how he preserved his self-respect by severing ties with his child.

why every time she represent herself as bichari if front of her daughter who is left by husband for masi??which daughter wants to talk wid father who left her mother for another woman and another daughter????

@ Blue : I agree again. No daughter who thinks that her mother has been cheated by her father for her masi would want to talk to that father. But when Purvi left with Pari she was just a toddler, a child who had just turned one. So for another couple of years or may be more, she was just a child who could not understand all the miseries of the World. Hence she was not in a position to know about the state of her parent's relationship and draw her own inferences out of them. Why didn't Arjun tried to clear the stand of his and Ovi's relationship with Deshmukhs and Purvi during that time? Purvi might not have listened to him, AGREED, but there were Archana, Manav and even Sulochana with whom he could have talked. In one of the flashback scenes DK even asks him to reconsider his decision. So even if he didn't want to confront either of them himself, he could have taken DK's help. Even if we assume that Purvi was representing herself as a bechari in front of Pari, it doesn't still negate the FACT that Arjun was an absentee father and that was as bad as Purvi's portrayal of bechari woman for Pari to hate him.

regarding purvi told pari to talk with father...this is also not half hearted attempt????if arjun's attempt was half hearted for clarification than m seeing purvi's attempt too half hearted here.

@Bold: That was a half-hearted attempt but a continuous attempt nevertheless. Not like Arjun's who stopped making even those half-hearted attempts when a child snubbed him.

is this what a real mother does?? she was doing pari's upbringing but was representing her father in very negative way due to her false hateness... Acc. to me pari is innocent as a child...arjun is 30% at fault that not fight for custody or meeting rights and purvi is 70% at fault for creating negative impression of father ,for not trusting arjun, simply left him nd never try to listen to him nd at last due to ego and hateness for arjun...she painted her daughter's childhood with bitter nd hateness feeling...that kid is hating father but feeling very bad for not having father too.

@ Purple: Purvi's hatred towards Arjun was not false: it was kinda understandable. According to the pre leap episodes, she goes to Canada to make amends with her estranged husband and comes to know about Pia's parentage and gets a shock of her life. She even collapses in the hospital wherein Doctor Onir calls for emergency operation.

What had happened of this child we do not still know? However, from the dialogues in the recent episodes, it seems that the Pari is their only child and hence Purvi had miscarried in
Canada after that shock. If she had indeed miscarried and then seen Arjun and Ovi in one room with the child, it was very natural for her to think the worst about Arjun. First of all Arjun lies about his whereabouts, then she comes to know about Pia's parentage, probably miscarriages, then sees her husband and sister with the child under her sister's roof and assumes the worst. On top of that Arjun doesn't come clean about when Pia was conceived and hence continues to let her assume the worst.

Now if Arvi's second child is still ALIVE, it doesn't portrays Arjun in any good light either. Rather than shaking the sense into his pregnant and hence hormonal wife, he just signs the divorce papers ( again a FACT shown in one of the flashback scenes) and lets her walk out of his life where she was in need of his love and support the most. And then he doesn't bother to ask or even know about his second child at any point of time for 20 years.

And I do not BUY that before the 20 years leap Purvi was FAKING her pregnancy. Because it was none other than the World's Best OBGYN Dr. Onir Dutta who had confirmed about Purvi's 2nd pregnancy.

Nowhere it is shown in the ACTUAL episodes that Purvi had either poisoned Pari's mind or was portraying him in a negative light. It could have come from other sources or Pari could have formed her own perspectives about her father as he was absent ever since she had known the meaning of father.

However, I DO agree that Purvi more than Arjun was at fault for the entire separation at the first place. Purvi had always been impulsive and she was indeed wrong to assume worst about Arjun and not give him a chance to explain then.

But Arjun was at a greater fault for not trying to make stronger reconciliation attempts. If Purvi had assumed worst of him, it was in his hands to explain the truth to her. If he really wanted to make Purvi hear him, he could have done so. When Arjun could literally drag Purvi out of her home during a rainy night to make her hear his love confessions, he could indeed have made her hear about his innocence had he wanted to do so.


First of all many thanks for taking this much effort...😊

Thing which is in my mind is it is very clear that arjun was never interested in pari or pia anyone's custody...but he is loving pari so much...they have never shown that before 10 how many times arjun tried for it...regarding self respect point..m agree with you...his ego nd self respect both were may be hurt by this process... nd he give up after 10 as feel like nothing going to change..

Red :- yeah that is fact that arjun was surely absent but its becoz of purvi...taali ek haath se to nai baj sakti na... agar sirf ek hath koshish karega to wohi haath hawa mai latak jayega...ye case bhi waisa he hai...for male...there ego nd self respect is superior... baar baar koi ego par vaar karega to ase he hoga...after knowing truth also...for pari ..her mother is still bichari..at that time she was kid..but now she is adult..stll was doing bakwaas like aai should not go back to that man...she is not at all mature at 21..as never tried to understand situation..just like her mother...not want to listen or understand anything...kid pari was immature dat i can digest and understand..but adult pari is also not mature dats why she was simply shouting nd screaming like aai should not trust nd all...after watching this i can understand why his efforts were in vain.

Green :- only twice i have seen purvi to saying talk with your father...if she wanted to do continuous attempt than for once she had called to arjun nd invited him to meet pari... nd for her ego..she can say like he can come to canada to meet only their daughter but she never called arjun for pari's sake..

Grey :-- till now she said so many lies to arjun..but she was not ready to accept his one lie...nd never give him single chance to explain everything...she also made lie of pari's truth but arjun understands her situation nd had given her chance to explain...she also made lie for arovi' kid..but again arjun understands her pain nd feeling...but this woman was full of herself nd wanted to live in imagination world thats why never give him any chance to explain...its all about trust..bacchi nai hai ki everytime forcefully pakad key sab kuch explain karna pade...
Edited by sweet_tania - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Idiotic of Arjun for not trying harder, idiotic of Purvi to have assumed the baby was made after she was married to Arjun. Idiotic of the CVs to mess up on simple math, Ovi had the baby prematurely (which Purvi had no clue about) so if the baby was born at 6 months instead of 9, everyone concerned should have known the baby was conceived prior to Ovi leaving.

As for Ovi, her not intruding between these two is a good thing whatever the motive for her not clearing the air. Wonder if it was selfishness that since she couldn't have Arjun, somewhere she was happy Purvi couldn't have him either (remember the expression on her face when Arjun announced Purvi's second pregnancy)? or it could be self -preservation, "happy to be out of this dirty mess and nothing is going to bring me back into this craziness, let them figure it out for themselves"??
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Idiotic of Arjun for not trying harder, idiotic of Purvi to have assumed the baby was made after she was married to Arjun. Idiotic of the CVs to mess up on simple math, Ovi had the baby prematurely (which Purvi had no clue about) so if the baby was born at 6 months instead of 9, everyone concerned should have known the baby was conceived prior to Ovi leaving.

As for Ovi, her not intruding between these two is a good thing whatever the motive for her not clearing the air. Wonder if it was selfishness that since she couldn't have Arjun, somewhere she was happy Purvi couldn't have him either (remember the expression on her face when Arjun announced Purvi's second pregnancy)? or it could be self -preservation, "happy to be out of this dirty mess and nothing is going to bring me back into this craziness, let them figure it out for themselves"??


Really Jhanvi? Even now you say it's idiotic of Arjun and purvi and selfish of ovi? Seriously? Did either Arjun or purvi, who's idiocy led ovi to be disowned from her family, think of ovi now that the truth is out? That she's been wronged the most out of all of them even if you consider her own mistake of not telling the truth. If you still say purvi is noble but idiotic and ovi is selfish and evil, then I really have nothing to say to you. And yeah, I'm asking you coz I thought you were one of the non-fanatics.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25


Purvi didnt "portray" Arjun as a characterless man! She was sad and bitter herself abt Arjun's "betrayal" but she has never been shown or heard to say to Pari "Your father is characterless"...at least I didnt see any scene or hear any dialogue like that from Purvi!
Yes, she didnt clarify to Pari abt Arjun-Ovi's first marriage!
BUT how would she clarify abt Arjun-Ovi-Pia when she herself didnt know the truth till now? She herself believed Arjun had cheated her, the whole family believed that and Pari also grew up believing that!


father left mother for masi nd their child...this is directly pointing on father's character...in that mean arjun's image was characterless that after living mother that man married to masi nd having daughter too...there was not need to clarify anything to pari..

if she really wanted that pari should talk with father than for once she had called to arjun that i m hating you but you can meet our 2-10 or 11-21 year old daughter than i guess arjun will surely meet pari in canada...but she never called arjun for her daughter's sake...by shouting on pari like beta attend your father's call is not enough...as mother..for her daughter...she could call arjun nd can fix meeting of arjun-pari...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Idiotic of Arjun for not trying harder, idiotic of Purvi to have assumed the baby was made after she was married to Arjun. Idiotic of the CVs to mess up on simple math, Ovi had the baby prematurely (which Purvi had no clue about) so if the baby was born at 6 months instead of 9, everyone concerned should have known the baby was conceived prior to Ovi leaving.

As for Ovi, her not intruding between these two is a good thing whatever the motive for her not clearing the air. Wonder if it was selfishness that since she couldn't have Arjun, somewhere she was happy Purvi couldn't have him either (remember the expression on her face when Arjun announced Purvi's second pregnancy)? or it could be self -preservation, "happy to be out of this dirty mess and nothing is going to bring me back into this craziness, let them figure it out for themselves"??


Wondering ovi was having fair chance after purvi left...just like purvi...wo bhi DK ki seva kai bahane ghar mai ghus sakti thi... par ghusi nai ghar mai...😃

we can say same thing in purvi's case too... wonder if it was selfishness than since she is having deshmukh family with her,somewhere she was happy ovi couldn't have them with her.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_tania


father left mother for masi nd their child...this is directly pointing on father's character...in that mean arjun's image was characterless that after living mother that man married to masi nd having daughter too...there was not need to clarify anything to pari..

if she really wanted that pari should talk with father than for once she had called to arjun that i m hating you but you can meet our 2-10 or 11-21 year old daughter than i guess arjun will surely meet pari in canada...but she never called arjun for her daughter's sake...by shouting on pari like beta attend your father's call is not enough...as mother..for her daughter...she could call arjun nd can fix meeting of arjun-pari...


So a wife who has been cheated by her husband who had a kid with his first wife AND lied to her abt it, should still swallow her pride and call her husband to come and visit her kid?
NICE! 😃
Then why did Ovi ditch Arjun when she came to know abt Pari?

Pari had been conceived before Ovi married Arjun (so not a result of marital infidelity) but Ovi still left Arjun as he had hidden the truth abt Pari from her. Arjun went after her multiple times, even all the way to Canada, but she still didnt return to him, did she? Ovi still didnt forgive him, later on she didnt even want him to be part of Pia's life!

So its okay for Ovi to feel betrayed and leave Arjun, bring up her 2nd daughter separately, away from Arjun...
But its very wrong of Purvi to leave Arjun after he hid abt Pia, lied to her and she lost her 2nd baby from the shock? Very wrong of her not to beg him to talk to his daughter Pari? 😕
Purvi isnt supposed to feel hurt and angry, to feel betrayed as a wife?
Different set of rules for Ovi and Purvi? Ovi is always the victim and Purvi is always the guilty one? Wonderful! 👏


Edited by pallavi25 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Purvi didn't have any problems in Arjun giving a chance to his marriage with Ovi via s##, hell she was the one who gave a go head to him, if she didn't mind it then way she made this halla when it happened again, the answer is simple she is a BLOODY CONTROL FREAK, she have this New York state sized ego, who couldn't digest the fact that Arjun approached Ovi without her permission, she wailed in front of Deshmukhs who disowned Ovi and are applauded, the same Deshmukhs who just before leap were bashed to the core for interferring in affairs of this mahaan joda and Selfish Manav was ordered to lay off. Phew what a U turn! Ovi should have made attempts to reunite Arvi- WHY! is she their amma? who had taken theka of their martial nonsense, she divorced Arjun and when she came to know that she was pregnant, wanted to raise her baby alone, Arvi for one can seperate, unite or do whatever they want, ITS NOT HER BUSINESS. Ovi went through her pregnancy and been raising her child Alone she is not like this Purvi who need Onir, Arjun or any Deshmukh for that matter- in every step of the way, she is independent and confident woman not someone who do AAI AAI at every damn instance .
Ovi was betrayed by Arjun and Purvi they had their horny PMS, (okay that happens not illegal BUT avoidable) but it was her baby who was swapped, she was lied to regarding death of her baby, it was she who didn't got to even mourn her baby, it was Arvi who used to have secret meetings behind her back. But all this was Hailed as it was for her bhalaai and she was mercilessly bashed for not being Understanding. Equating Ovi's situation to Purvi hmm I better not say anything because it might hurt some PURE HEARTS of the forum. I just want cvs to show that Ovi and her daughter are okay, happy, well settled and enjoying life to the maximum. These Arvi and Deshmukhs or whatever can draw as much water from that chawl tap and hope they drown in it. 😡😡

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