Originally posted by: bitasta
First of all many thanks for taking this much effort...
Thank U if that is meant as a compliment. But those thoughts were already on my mind so the only effort that I really made was in writing them down.
Thing which is in my mind is it is very clear that arjun was never interested in pari or pia anyone's custody...but he is loving pari so much...they have never shown that before 10 how many times arjun tried for it...regarding self respect point..m agree with you...his ego nd self respect both were may be hurt by this process... nd he give up after 10 as feel like nothing going to change..
Red :- yeah that is fact that arjun was surely absent but its becoz of purvi...taali ek haath se to nai baj sakti na... agar sirf ek hath koshish karega to wohi haath hawa mai latak jayega...ye case bhi waisa he hai...for male...there ego nd self respect is superior... baar baar koi ego par vaar karega to ase he hoga...after knowing truth also...for pari ..her mother is still bichari..at that time she was kid..but now she is adult..stll was doing bakwaas like aai should not go back to that man...she is not at all mature at 21..as never tried to understand situation..just like her mother...not want to listen or understand anything...kid pari was immature dat i can digest and understand..but adult pari is also not mature dats why she was simply shouting nd screaming like aai should not trust nd all...after watching this i can understand why his efforts were in vain.
I agree taali ek haath se nahi bajti, and hence I do agree and I have been saying that Purvi was also at fault in fact at bigger fault for not giving Arjun a chance to explain about Pia and Ovi's truth. She I agree is also at fault for not reciprocating to Arjun's efforts of talking with her. But the equation here is between Arjun and Pari and no it was Arjun's duty to clap as the father, because when the separation happened at the first place, Pari was a small child and hence she was not in the position to have responded to Arjun's advances of reaching her. Neither is it shown in the show that Purvi had wanted to create a rift between father and the daughter. In spite of this if Arjun had decided to cut ties with Pari because his male ego was bigger than his child, then I'm sorry but it paints Arjun in the bad light even more. And that is partly a reason as to why Adult Pari hates Arjun at the age of 21.
Green :- only twice i have seen purvi to saying talk with your father...if she wanted to do continuous attempt than for once she had called to arjun nd invited him to meet pari... nd for her ego..she can say like he can come to canada to meet only their daughter but she never called arjun for pari's sake..
Those two scenes as far as I recall are said once to child Pari and secondly to adult Pari. This means she was trying to make her daughter talk with her father across ages- from childhood till maturity. And please, let's give Arjun some responsibilities: if Purvi had placed Arjun either under her or Pari's oath to not meet them, then it would have been apt to put the whole blame on Purvi's shoulders. If he had gone to meet Pari and if Purvi had brushed him off, then again we could place the entire blame on Purvi's shoulder. But the fact is he himself did never try to meet or reach for his daughter. And why does he need an invitation from his estranged wife to meet his daughter? If it was the fear of being snubbed that prevented him from meeting Pari, then again Pari was not always of the age to snub him.
Grey :-- till now she said so many lies to arjun..but she was not ready to accept his one lie...nd never give him single chance to explain everything...she also made lie of pari's truth but arjun understands her situation nd had given her chance to explain...she also made lie for arovi' kid..but again arjun understands her pain nd feeling...but this woman was full of herself nd wanted to live in imagination world thats why never give him any chance to explain...its all about trust..bacchi nai hai ki everytime forcefully pakad key sab kuch explain karna pade...
The issue here is not about how many lies Purvi had or had not said. The issue here is about the SEVERITY and IMPACT of one lie that Arjun had said. That one LIE, the shock of it, the MISCARRIAGE, the consequent grief and hence not being in the RIGHT sense of her mind. This is not called being herself and the imagination continued because her husband didn't come clean. I agree she is not a bachhi, but she was indeed a woman who was in grief and loss and hence was absolutely in need of forcefully pakad key sab kuch explain karna pade.
that is partly a reason as to why Adult Pari hates Arjun at the age of 21.
adult pari is not having any reason to hate arjun now infact as a daughter she should feel bad that ohh god..for this many years i am hating my father without reason😭...its a feeling which should be beyond hateness...specially her aaji is explaining her everything whom she can trust easily...regarding how suddenly she can accept this truth than... if she can't accept it than also she should not give statements like uss adami k pass aai nai jayegi wapis nd all...after knowing everything either she should keep quite or should ry to understand... if after knowing also she is not ready to accept father than i can understand why arjun was having ego nd failed to convince her from this many years...whenever he tries to talk on call ..she was just doing bakwas only.after watching adult pari's behave i can't say its 50-50 fault. arjun is also at fault for not visiting canada nd only just calling her but kid pari nd adult pari is more at fault specially adult pari...
I recall are said once to child Pari and secondly to adult Pari. This means she was trying to make her daughter talk with her father across ages
Again m saying... beta papa se call par baat karo acche se...ase pari jaise bacche nai mante..
there was problem between husband and wife ..not between father and daughter... daughter was with purvi...purvi was knowing that daughter is not talking with father on call...she was knowing that her hateness will give negative effect on her mind than why never try to arrange meeting of daughter nd father??? her hateness was for arjun..nd watever trauma scenario u r explaining..can agree on it..so she should not invite arjun to meet herself or call for herself for her self respect...as per her..arjun betrayed her not pari...nd pari was not adult that she can call her father by herself nd can fix meeting with father...but purvi was there with her . for ovi's matter she should not call arjun for her self respect but she can fix meeting of father-daughter nd by doing that she will not her self respect/ego anything.as male is supirior not female ego.
arjun made mistake for his ego which was hurted by his every attempt nd dats why he never meet pari...same way by not calling arjun for pari's sake...purvi made mistake for her self respect nd ego both but her ego was never hurted becoz she had never given any chance to arjun... ek ne ego k liye beti ko contact karna chod diya or dusri ne ego/self respect k liye beti ka kabhi contact nai karvaya.
one lie
For me...its not only about one lie...it shows your capacity of forgiveness and your inner strength...some people are this much sensitive that a single lie can be show worse effect on their mind nd can lose sense of understanding and some people are this much strong that they can handle themselves after number of lies too nd not going to loose their state of mind...this shows their inner strength of tolerating situation...that doesn't mean strong people should become used to of lies as weak peoples will going to show worst effect of lie.
Edited by sweet_tania - 11 years ago