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Posted: 12 years ago
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cs07 she IS guilty . It was HER baby given with HER consent . The tape implicates her . It has been pushed under the rug as they r showing that whatever she does is .er ...divine . It has a divine touch ...even master minding the baby swap .
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Premarital sex, so long as it is consensual, is not a crime. This is my pov of course.

And with regard to Archana. Sulochana, their holier than thou attitude simply stinks. They have always used different yardsticks to judge different people. I have no respect for them whatsoever!

I am glad Purvi had PMS and made all those mistakes. Because the halo that she had inherited from Archana has been knocked off forever. I am glad that the girl is human. I wish she would just stay that way instead of trying to follow in her sanctimonious mother's footsteps!

fantastic point
PMS aint a crime
archana and sulo have been omg we are pavitra and sanskari but sadly purvi hooted about the same sanskars so thats why she is being judged by the same yardsticks
halo has been knocked off but she doesnt think she is wrong.. about so many things thats make the audience not like her.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

I don't know where that idiom originated . Its not in our culture at least . That saali is aadhi gharwaali thing . I find it flirtatious and immoral idiom . Absolutely disgusting . All serials seem to use it .

Yes, so disgusting, especially cause, I feel that my Jeejus are like my bros and babas...can you imagine if this was otherwise - that Jeeju thinking free Sex with Saali with marriage, and Saali also thinking that way - so disgusting...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

cs07 she IS guilty . It was HER baby given with HER consent . The tape implicates her . It has been pushed under the rug as they r showing that whatever she does is .er ...divine . It has a divine touch ...even master minding the baby swap .

Yes, and a real Court couldn't take that so lightly - not the Courts they show in Crime Patrol and Shaitan - it is only Ekta's Court and Cause a lead needs to be glorified. Notice, there is no reference of child swapping any more, only PMS - because even Cvs figured out that they goofed up and what better way then to push it under the rug...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kalapi

I am going off in a tangent here than the topic on hand...but, i will 😃

But, can anyone enlighten me, what is a debate, if it isn't taking or debating about what is shown in the story, spoken through the characters that state the character's POV. So, how it is audience to interpret, what the characters state based on the storyline so far. Now, if we start pointing at fingers picking up only few members when everyone does the same ' that amounts to member bashing, specifically selecting only few members to bash ' for they have a different POV? Then, why do we need a forum like this, if everyone thinks same? Hell, will we have even democracy ' maybe Taliban rule is all we want ' for we can appreciate and enjoy other's freedom? Even the topic maker is putting forward her POV based on the storyline and her interpretation. I mean, isn't that we are taught to? Besides, all characters are written by one CV, it is their creation ' like all noted authors who create multidimensional characters in one story ' I dunno about others, but I did the same with Shakespeare too ' I criticized all his characters as I interpreted and as the storyline dictated'.so, why bashing members for putting in their POV and how they see characters. Is that a right thing to do??? Let us enjoy the fun to debating, other than trying to take any moral high ground ' or indirectly pointing at others as they have a different POV'.

Besides, how do you know that we do not see Ovi's problems - isn't taht an extremely sweeping statement...besides, aren't you also guilty of the same - trying to see bhalaayoi angle at all that Purvi does, even the baby swapping...

Let take that bhalaayi angle and the intent of law...she swapped the baby or masterminded it - in India, that does happen in reality - in Nursing home. It is a reality there and that act isn't looked kindle by the Court as it isn't upfront and falls under Child tragfficking - just take a sneek peek at CP and Shaitan - I am not fabricating a thing here...


I was specifically addressing the issue I see on the forum, on this thread and elsewhere, when extrapolations are made with scant regard to what's being shown. As to the moral high ground you refer to here, I do not claim that at all.

I was addressing sharadrocks and shyamalas comments earlier about being in denial... And since I stated that we the audience are the ones in denial I also pointed out what amuses me about the posts and debates I see.

As to a debate, we can have a healthy debate on many things basing our discussions purely on what is shown. For instance, we could debate the a abortion issue without attributing motives to Purvi which the show has not shown.

And my guilt? I am neither a prolific writer or a great wit that I will assume you remember my posts. So let me clarify once more where I stand. I could not care less about the ARVi pairing, or Ovi. I do not think ANY of the actors are powerhouses of talent or national award winning material. They are competent and that's it. What I do have an issue with is when unfounded accusations are made on posters or actors or characters. Enough said.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kalapi

Yes, so disgusting, especially cause, I feel that my Jeejus are like my bros and babas...can you imagine if this was otherwise - that Jeeju thinking free Sex with Saali with marriage, and Saali also thinking that way - so disgusting...


in real life if that happens, a woman is thrown on the streets by the parents, i find that incredibly harsh and the man is still kept behind locked doors cause he is the man. that is disgusting too,
but in this show, the characters are so twisted and it is weird for me as a viewer to understand how arjun is actually thinking or getting upset over the divorce papers as if he is the victim
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Posted: 12 years ago
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The jeeju saali refrain is so childish! 😆 Anyone who is familiar with Indian culture would know that Jeeju saali marriage is very common and accepted, and even planned by elders of the family with blessings and all. Like Ive said many times, there is an example in my own immediate family of Kuleen Kayastha Bengali Hindus. And in other states, not only jeeju saalis but 1st cousins, uncle-niece, ect. are all legal and valid marriage.
Jeeju saali taunts just sound immature and misinformed and even insulting to certain cultural practices.

Purvi being Ms Nosy Parker and Busybody was just trying to save Punni from the social disgrace of being called a married man's mistress. If she sees her cousin sleeping with an old rich married man, should she not interfere and tell her its wrong?

Oh Gawd, again starting with the jeeju saali sex refrain...🥱 Pray when did they have sex after Arjun got married to Ovi? 😲
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25

The jeeju saali refrain is so childish! 😆 Anyone who is familiar with Indian culture would know that Jeeju saali marriage is very common and accepted, and even planned by elders of the family with blessings and all. Like Ive said many times, there is an example in my own immediate family of Kuleen Kayastha Bengali Hindus. And in other states, not only jeeju saalis but 1st cousins, uncle-niece, ect. are all legal and valid marriage.

Jeeju saali taunts just sound immature and misinformed and even insulting to certain cultural practices.

Purvi being Ms Nosy Parker and Busybody was just trying to save Punni from the social disgrace of being called a married man's mistress. If she sees her cousin sleeping with an old rich married man, should she not interfere and tell her its wrong?

Oh Gawd, again starting with the jeeju saali sex refrain...🥱 Pray when did they have sex after Arjun got married to Ovi? 😲

Pallavi, You put it very well. When they slept together, they were engaged. Actually Ovi was the Saali here who still wanted her sister's intended. When did Arjun-Purvi have sex or even that kind of talk after Arjun-Ovi marriage. They met, sometimes secretly, but in public places to mainly discuss and solve the issues in the life of said sainted ovi.
Also how can sleeping together by two people who are engaged to be married the next day be equated with the sex indulged by a married man with a much younger girl in exchange of gifts and money. I believe the latter which was between Punni and Mittal atleast till Purvi try to put a stop to it, is called prostitution in every culture.
Again I do believe if I was in her place and my cousin was indulging in such a thing, I wuld try to interfere too, not just walk away.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: rajvta

Pallavi, You put it very well. When they slept together, they were engaged. Actually Ovi was the Saali here who still wanted her sister's intended. When did Arjun-Purvi have sex or even that kind of talk after Arjun-Ovi marriage. They met, sometimes secretly, but in public places to mainly discuss and solve the issues in the life of said sainted ovi.
Also how can sleeping together by two people who are engaged to be married the next day be equated with the sex indulged by a married man with a much younger girl in exchange of gifts and money. I believe the latter which was between Punni and Mittal atleast till Purvi try to put a stop to it, is called prostitution in every culture.
Again I do believe if I was in her place and my cousin was indulging in such a thing, I wuld try to interfere too, not just walk away.


Exactly! What Punni was doing was prostitution and Purvi just did her duty to family honor by stopping that!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sharadrocks

I still don't get you. Maybe I am a little slow. Ovi does not consider Purvi her sister, so there is no but relationship. But Purvi considers her family as her own, so there is a relationship. Sounds kind of convoluted.

Anyway since Saali is aadhi gharwali, I suppose our Indian culture endorses this relationship!


It's not really. Purvi had never seen the Deshmukhs until they came to India, she was only related to archana and sulochana and through them to the Karanjkars. If she didn't think of the Deshmukhs as her family, that would be fine and expected because she's not blood related to them and she doesn't know them. But from the moment she met them, she formed a relation with all of them and made them her family. Which is nice, but it also means those relations are also made with the people in the family she doesn't like as much. Like Ovi. So for her, if the Deshmukhs are her paternal family, then Ovi should automatically be her sister and arjun automatically her jeeju.

Even if we assume that they're both sisters whether either consider it true or not; ovi was engaged to arjun and purvi was also engaged to arjun which kind of makes it nullified. Since engagements are not significant in this show, marriage at least should be. So, the legal committed relationship of a husband-wife is between arjun-ovi, and that makes him purvi's jeeju.

And not all Indian cultures consider saali is aadhi gharwali. My culture, like I said before, considers the relation not less than that of a father-daughter. Even where the saali is aadhi gharwali culture is acceptable, becoming a poori gharwali is not encouraged or supported except under extreme circumstances.

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