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pallavi25

@pallavi25

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Posted: 12 years ago

#71

Jeeju saali marriage is endorsed only after the wife dies or leaves due to some circumstances like shown in Baseraa.

But I dont understand why its constantly brought up as Arjun Purvi never had sex after they officially became jeeju saali (although Purvi is adopted and no blood relation exists between her and Ovi)

Even then supposing they are jeeju saali after Ovi marriage, when did they have sex or even kiss or cuddle? Did I miss that episode? 😕

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Winzy

@nicegirl_good

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Posted: 12 years ago

#72

😆Archana is so shameless, she cannot balance between the two daughters. She has always favoured Purvi over Ovi.

Why not just tell Ovi the reality? What happened to Punir marriage, and where would they go? 😲

If Ovi doesn't accept it, that's her problem. If Purvi was her biological daughter, she would definitely tell Ovi. It would be Purvi's RIGHT then but now it's a FAVOUR.

The problem in that family is they all lie to each other/ hide stuff. If they stopped hiding stuff we would be much better off.

Archana should get her priorities straight, both are her daughters and she can't leave either.

Ovi has to understand that and Purvi also has to understand that.

Regardless of their relationship with each other, they are both the daughters of the same mother. She cannot throw either of them out of her life.

If Ovi doesn't understand, that's her problem. I wouldn't like Purvi living in my house if she did the same things with me, but if someone had no place to live and my house was their last stop I would understand. I am sure Ovi would too. Ovi is stronger than they think.

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 12 years ago

#73

Undoubtedly . Let me see . Pre marital sex in India is common and jeeju saali shaadis r normal !

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Tahniat Ahmad

@Sexylicious.

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Posted: 12 years ago

#74

Purvi hid many things from Ovi. I think the fresh mulga don't consider her as family or else they would have have told Ovi everything. They treat Ovi as like she is an abnormal child who will go to shock after listening to small matters

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@Naysayer

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Posted: 12 years ago

#75

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

It's not really. Purvi had never seen the Deshmukhs until they came to India, she was only related to archana and sulochana and through them to the Karanjkars. If she didn't think of the Deshmukhs as her family, that would be fine and expected because she's not blood related to them and she doesn't know them. But from the moment she met them, she formed a relation with all of them and made them her family. Which is nice, but it also means those relations are also made with the people in the family she doesn't like as much. Like Ovi. So for her, if the Deshmukhs are her paternal family, then Ovi should automatically be her sister and arjun automatically her jeeju.

Even if we assume that they're both sisters whether either consider it true or not; ovi was engaged to arjun and purvi was also engaged to arjun which kind of makes it nullified. Since engagements are not significant in this show, marriage at least should be. So, the legal committed relationship of a husband-wife is between arjun-ovi, and that makes him purvi's jeeju.

And not all Indian cultures consider saali is aadhi gharwali. My culture, like I said before, considers the relation not less than that of a father-daughter. Even where the saali is aadhi gharwali culture is acceptable, becoming a poori gharwali is not encouraged or supported except under extreme circumstances.

Quite obviously, my comment on aadhi gharwali was tongue in cheek. I sincerely hope it is not being taken literally.

Anyway, the fact is, as per the show, Purvi already slept with Arjun before the deal making happened. Obviously , she had no clue that her mother's happiness was going to be used as.a bait. Once the deal and then the marriage happened, let us assume that Arjun became her Jeeja by relationship. Are you telling me that she should start looking at a man she has already slept with as a father or a brother? Does that not sound obscene?

She has not slept with or had a romantic conversation even with Arjun post marriage. Even when Arjun told her that he was unable to get her out of his head, she asked him to live with Ovi and give her the status of a wife. So clearly, she respected the fact that he was Ovi's husband. Only post the shit hitting the fan have they had any personal discussion. If I remember, the train sequence was where they spoke of their past feelings. But when you have a shared past, the discussion is bound to happen sometime or the other. You cannot wish away their shared past! I am not justifying anything here but simply saying that they are mere mortals too and are bound to break down at some point or the other. So why don't we accept that they are just normal people who are liable to be overcome by emotion?

If we look at the instances where they have drawn solace from each other, we are the ones who are accusing them of necking. Wouldn't a Jeeja hold his saali in an effort to comfort her? To be frank, they are damned if they do and damned if they don't! And if we are talking of emotional adultery here, I think almost every human being would be guilty of that iat some point or the other n today's day and age. Let us not raise the bar so high for these fictitious people when we cannot reach there ourselves. Please do not take this personally. It is a generic observation!

Also, my point is we as an audience, after insisting that blood should rule over the heart, should not except Purvi to be so upright in her honouring of relationships of the heart. Since this is all about interpretation, why adopt a different yardstick for different times? If this is about Purvi declaring herself to be a sanctimonious prig, I am sincerely glad that her image stands shattered, I personally have no respect for the species!

Sowmya, I have respect for every culture, be it yours or mine. But I do not subscribe to everything that is laid down in the name of culture. So, even if our Indian or any other culture endorsed a man having an adulterous relationship with his sister-in-law, I would not subscribe to it. But if said man, his wife, said sister-in-law and her husband, just in case she has one, had no issues with it, I would not make it my business.

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Kalapi

@Kalapi

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Posted: 12 years ago

#76

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
Undoubtedly . Let me see . Pre marital sex in India is common and jeeju saali shaadis r normal !

Yupp, exactly😆 that is what members are claiming...and so a judge has to come up with a Law (?) to saveguard woman's right, even if they are adult and had consensual sex😔...I am missing something here😆

As for Jeeju saali marriage, marriage can happen if the wife dies and leaves a baby or something. i haven't seen that the daughter dies like that and other daughter is happily marries the Jeeju - as if waiting in the wings for sister to die...

Now, that Ovi isn't dead, I wanna see Arjun marries Purvi and act as the victim also😆😆...and we haven't seen Arjun cuddling Purvi...what did we see outside the Court house after Onir's verdict., and the rain scene after Purvi did the missing act...yup, we see as we wanna see, na😆😆 damn funny🤣

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@Naysayer

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Posted: 12 years ago

#77

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
Undoubtedly . Let me see . Pre marital sex in India is common and jeeju saali shaadis r normal !

They are, Kools...that is the truth whether we like it or not...whether we approve of it or not! We are not as morally upright a species as we would like to believe.

What if I told you that I knew of at least two sets of sisters who were happily married to the same man and living under the same roof! My stomach turns at the thought but these women are living that life!

All I will say is, each to their own! We may not endorse it or attempt it but we cannot deny that such a truth does exist!

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

Stunner

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Posted: 12 years ago

#78

Lets agree to disagree sharad .😊 That is the exception , not the rule. Firmly of the opinion that some like to paint India as they wish to defend their favorite character . I agree things r changing but not so much .

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soapwatcher1

@soapwatcher1

Rocker

Posted: 12 years ago

#79

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

It's not really. Purvi had never seen the Deshmukhs until they came to India, she was only related to archana and sulochana and through them to the Karanjkars. If she didn't think of the Deshmukhs as her family, that would be fine and expected because she's not blood related to them and she doesn't know them. But from the moment she met them, she formed a relation with all of them and made them her family. Which is nice, but it also means those relations are also made with the people in the family she doesn't like as much. Like Ovi. So for her, if the Deshmukhs are her paternal family, then Ovi should automatically be her sister and arjun automatically her jeeju.

Even if we assume that they're both sisters whether either consider it true or not; ovi was engaged to arjun and purvi was also engaged to arjun which kind of makes it nullified. Since engagements are not significant in this show, marriage at least should be. So, the legal committed relationship of a husband-wife is between arjun-ovi, and that makes him purvi's jeeju.

And not all Indian cultures consider saali is aadhi gharwali. My culture, like I said before, considers the relation not less than that of a father-daughter. Even where the saali is aadhi gharwali culture is acceptable, becoming a poori gharwali is not encouraged or supported except under extreme circumstances.

Sowmya, the jeeju saali refrain is as Pallavi says kind of getting old and is not accurate entirely. Even if Arjun is Purvi's jeeju by whosoever admission and whatever relation endorsed by either Archana, Purvi, Ovi or both, there was no physical relationship between Arjun and Purvi AFTER the marriage.

Going by your admission that the two engagements nullified each other, even if I would be tempted to hold the latter and the then current relationship would have held more weight, just as the marriage between Ovi and Arjun now outweighs any relationship that Arjun and Purvi might have had previoulsy, there has been nothing untoward happening between Arjun and Purvi that can be attributed to incest, another word that is bandied about freely on the forum.

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rajvta

@rajvta

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Posted: 12 years ago

#80

Originally posted by: sharadrocks

They are, Kools...that is the truth whether we like it or not...whether we approve of it or not! We are not as morally upright a species as we would like to believe.

What if I told you that I knew of at least two sets of sisters who were happily married to the same man and living under the same roof! My stomach turns at the thought but these women are living that life!

All I will say is, each to their own! We may not endorse it or attempt it but we cannot deny that such a truth does exist!

Premartial sex is not so uncommon either. A lot of Indian couple I know, get engaged and start living together. The wedding happens when both can get some time off from their professional commitments. This is specially true with the IT professionals in US on H1Bs who need to coordinate when they could return depending on their Visas. And most of these have met each other thru their parents or from Shadi websites, in a kind of arranged marriage format.

Well to each their own.

Edited by rajvta - 12 years ago

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