Living in denial! - Page 6

Kools, Punni was a mistress that turned wife for "contract" reasons. Purvi was fiancee, not mistress, not saali.
I remember reading a thread where people who hated on Purvi wanted Onir married to Shalini so Purvi could in fact be the third wheel, yes, glad it didn't transpire that way. 😆.

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Er ...let me assure u sharadrocks , that your views DO matter to me .Otherwise i wouldn't have replied . So please don't misunderstand dear . What i meant was our views are NOT the character's views in the serial , thats all . Archana has been shown as a character with a traditional mind set who considers pre marital sex taboo . So is Sulochana . Hence the slap to Purvi .

Sowmya fantastic post .

Er ...i don't understand how Punni's pre marital sex is bad and Purvi's is good . And holy . Pre marital sex is pre marital sex . Be it of anyone , it should be private and strictly one's business . Why should the girl be 'exposed' and beaten on the roads . And why should squealing about it be regarded a virtue when later on u do the same deed and go to many lengths to hide it .

Don't same rules apply to all ?

By that standard why is Archana not asking Purvi to go back to Onir . She did make her own sister go back to Dharmesh the bigamist . Puzzling .

Come to think of it Punni married the man she had pre marital sex with . Purvi didn't . Thank god Onir is not really a bigamist or she would have been the third wheel to Arjun and Onir both . Punni is a wife ...she would really have been a mistress . Thank god Onir is not really married .

Originally posted by: sharadrocks

If Ovi does not consider Purvi her sister, then how does Arjun become her Jeeja. I thought the relationship stemmed from Ovi and not Manav or Soham, or anyone else!

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Kalapi, this post is not pointed at you though your post triggered this response.

I am just curious. All that constant pointing in many a post to what Indian chawl dwellers will make of any and every given situation smacks of morality policing to me. Surely we should be debating our POVs, not some distant chawl dweller's take on it? Again, my take.

Also, you say Ovi's character flaws are observed by those that like her, I for one have never seen those flaws discussed by the ones that like her, only excused. Again, my personal POV. I have also seen posts over and over again that allude to the "fair" view of only the side that supports Ovi stating that bias is solely on the opposite side that supports Purvi and Arjun. Surely calling other members biased or unreasonable only because they hold opposing views can be construed as member bashing as well? In my opinion, both sides are entitled to their bias.

Yes, baby swapping is a crime and Onir was punished by the court for it. It did not go unnoticed by the law. If Purvi was not punished, she did not do the act, she did suffer indirectly for suggesting it to Onir. Maybe the court saw it for what it was - post partum female just out of delivery making a senseless request. If Ovi can be excused for making that infamous deal, drinking while pregnant, for contemplating abortion and for a million other things because of the state of her mind at any and every given situation, surely the court making a valid excuse in not even considering Purvi as a candidate for punishment because of her physical and emotional condition right after child birth, is totally kosher?
Again, these are just observations that came to mind on reading the previous few posts and yours.

Sharad, excellent points all, loved your posts.

Janhvi...dunno about you, but in School - and I come from a very reputed one - I was taught - that opinion on characters are given on 2 counts- one, how the characters response under the circumstance and environment. And 2, how we see it from our POV. I think most covers both.

So, when we say, that PMS is still a taboo in India - it is looking thru the eyes of Chawl dwellers. And PMS is still a big no no. And, if I am wrong - why them Madra HS have to issue a statement that premarital sex might lead to marriage for the girl, if the boy leaves?? Do, we have such a Law in the West?? Since, both involved are adult and having consensual sex?? Shouldn't be an adult decision too, to marry - why the Court need to jump and protect the Woman, in this case??? Then many, including me and Kool has said, countless times that PMS isn't the issue, her giving up Arjun right after is...this cover our POV...I am sure you understand for a healthy discussion to happen...audience need to cover both counts... do you think that is wrong???

What applies for Ovi with members, does also applies for Purvi, isn't it?? Isn't the members always supporting her no matter what. Even the baby swapping is given the bhalaayi angle by members, when it is simply criminal. And the Court didn't condemn her act...tell me, if this played out in reality...what a Court could have done? Taken her in Custody...simply because child trafficking is a serious offense in East or West. And her motive could have been to give her baby a wealthy home...without Ovi knowing the truth. Put yourself in Ovi's shoe for once...do you not feel her pain at all? That the baby died and was swapped with a baby that represents infidelity at it worst. Yes, your argument that the sex happened few hours before the marriage... even then does it take away from the pain. You will of course bring in the deal. True Ovi brought the deal...but did she bargain that the Girl (who btw turns out to be the step sister), will sleep with a man and then force him to marry the other step sister. And the force into Sex after a month on non-consummation, when by that time, she knew she was pregnant. Why could Purvi own up that she was pregnant... would this happen been any worst than what is happening now. Btw, if this happened to you and you breast feed the baby...could you still accept Pari? I will tell you I wouldn't, not that I am putting you on the spot and or not telling you what I feel. I couldn't have, simply, as the Pari reminds me of my dead baby, my failed marriage, the betrayal of my hubby and my step sister, who was btw, raised by my Mother when I lived only with my Baba all those 18 yrs wanting for Mother's love all through out ...too many reminder for me...I could rather walk out...I am not that mahaan, nor want to be.

So, if all of Purvi's fault is so over looked by so many members, why it is so hard for some members to give some BOD to Ovi. Besides, don't you think that we are biased too, for we support Ovi? So, why complain. No matter what, we will always be biased, if we have a POV. For objectivity can only go so far, and objectivity is also subjective...right??? So, why cry wolf, when we are all guilty of the same fault?

Originally posted by: cs-07

@soap

a doubt , onir was punished by court of law cause he swapped the babies.

purvi wasnt punished cause it was not she who committed the act?

so did onir do that without purvis knowledge? after she got to know of ovi's still born, she told/asked/made onir swap the babies. please correct me if i am wrong,

when person A gives supari to kill a man. does that person A let free?

i can easily blame the CVs for the disgusting convoluted plot but in all these characters when onir was in the courtroom, he wasnt the only accused!

Yes, this is what I have learnt, here in the forum, that giving Supari is not a crime and all the Mafia leader are at no fault of their own - as long as they do not pull that trigger...Wish the US Courst could come and get enlightenment here😆, for a MAfia BOss was jailed and death sentence is being negotiated now here in the East😆, what stupid are these real life lawyers😆😉

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

It is not what ovi considers purvi, it's the other way round. Ovi doesn't consider purvi her sister, so arjun need not consider purvi as his saali. But since purvi considers manav, sachu and other Deshmukhs as her family, so Ovi becomes her family as well and therefore arjun her jeeja.

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

I believe Onir was the only accused, Mittal brought the case against Onir for outing him on that organ trafficking deal, Purvi was not "officially" accused.

If I tell someone go jump into a well as that will make me happy, if that someone does, I will be guilt ridden and blame myself but the court of law will not hold me responsible for the act. Similar to Ovi proposing the deal and not being held liable for it as Purvi accepted her suggestion/deal voluntarily. Onir being the doctor was held to higher standards and could have refused but rightly or wrongly didn't.

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Kools, Punni was a mistress that turned wife for "contract" reasons. Purvi was fiancee, not mistress, not saali.
I remember reading a thread where people who hated on Purvi wanted Onir married to Shalini so Purvi could in fact be the third wheel, yes, glad it didn't transpire that way. 😆.