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Posted: 12 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Kools,

All I can say is that after reading your hilarious take on today's PR, I just might watch it, and that, Kools, is a real compliment to your latest KC. These days, I cannot even stand watching your potato face and his inamorata. Even without that dismaying montage (that Ankita undoubtedly had removed pronto!), they are tough to look at and to digest.

The other one who has let me down badly is Onir. His goody two shoes act makes me want to kick him all the way from Mumbai to Kolkatta. A smooth villain would have been a delight to watch, but this lily livered display makes me sick.

Incidentally, folks. Jodha Akbar promises to be a worthy successor to EK's Mahabharata. After a disclaimer that makes it clear - obviously to avoid rotten eggs being thrown at BT offices by the Rajputs and the admirers of Akbar alike - that the show has nothing to do with history,the opening episode makes the truth of this assertion amply clear.

The scriptwriter seems to be confusing the young Jalal with either Mahmud of Ghazni or Mohammed Ghori., given to ransacking temples for the jewellery and abducting any female within reach. And he obviously thinks that no battle scene can be complete without landmines blowing up all round, though no such stuff was around in the mid-16th century. Plus he seems to be outraged that enemy soldiers are killed on the battlefield.

And Jodha, the daughter of a Rajput king, and a woman who goes on doing an aarti of Ma Kaali in her full gory aspect till it made me dizzy to watch her thali go round and round and round, is shown preaching against violence, and is described as the repository of prem and shanti (I am not sure of this last).

DK as Bairam Khan is not bad, nor is Jalal, but Jodha is a washout and looks like his elder sister.As for her acting, the less said the better.

I do not think I will last with this beyond this first week. As for Ekta, if the Emperor Akbar ever rose from his tomb, he would sever her head with one fell sweep of his shamsheer. And for good reason too!

I shall recover from this appalling production by going back to the DVD of Ashutosh Gowarikar's Jodhaa Akbar.

Shyamala

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I think we should petition Almighty Lord to take mercy on us and wake up Akbar from his eternal sleep šŸ˜†šŸ˜†. This would be tooo good for mankind in generalšŸ˜†šŸ˜†

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Posted: 12 years ago
#42
Only purvi gets slapped by everyone and now onir joins the club!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#43
We will decide on a show and see it from the start . A new start .

shyamala thank u dear and i agree that Onir needs to be rapped but Arjun hollering righteously at him and hitting him was TOO much for me to digest...its high time Arjun is slapped . High time .

Thank god for the BV track anu , its the only interesting thing on TV

PR degrades men . They r shown as brainless sex addicts who praise and praise women and a little sex is then thrown their way . The women then go on to do all nonsense and the men have to give them 'saath'by agreeing to all their rubbish

Akbar was NOT a tyrant . He was one of the most religiously tolerant muslim emperors India had and his era is the golden era of the Mughal Sultaniyat /

Showing that he was a heartless tyrant and Jodha tamed him with sex is extreme Ekta Kapoor nonsense . At least spare history . Akbar could have ANY amount of beautiful women , men in those days need not depend just on their queens and their tantrums or moods for sex . They were allowed to have concubines ...in fact the queens were insecure . But Akbar was a serious minded emperor who had ruled since he was a pre teen ...his life experience gave him that maturity . Ekta shows r obsessed with Kali and sassy women who r projected as the kali spirit ...Bani did Kali aarti in kasam se now Jodha does kaali aarti in Jodha Akbar . See the akkal .
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Posted: 12 years ago
#44
Dear Nikita,

You are very welcome. I still remember your patient remonstrances with me over Soham/Vishnu, after my vitriolic post about him!

You are spot on about Akbar, but then BT's research department is probably just as clued up on Indian history as they are on medical and legal issues!

Yes, that Rajat Tokas is really good, with the arrogant swagger this Akbar calls for (I did not see Prithviraj Chauhan, but I read about him last week. He is very young at just 22), and a fine figure of a young man, though they make him show his biceps a bit too much! Plus, his Urdu enunciation needs some polishing; neither he nor that Jodha could pronounce mohabbat properly.When Jodha projects anger or shock, she is a sight to behold! Frightful.

My mother too pointed out at once that Kali in Rajasthan was a blooper. Bhavani or Durga, yes, but not Kali. Plus. Jodha was a devotee of Lord Krishna, not of Kali or Durga. In any case, a Rajput princess as a 20th century Gandhian avatar is ludicrous. Aishwarya learning fencing from her Sujamal Bhaisa was far more convincing. As for looks, let us not even go there!

The sets are not up to the mark either, and the Rajput princesses are all shown in what looks like nylon odhnis.

If one wants a historical, Sony's Maharana Pratap, with last year's DID L'il Masters winner Faisal Khan in the title role, is a far, far better bet, for the casting (the sole exception being the loud caricatural Afghan Resident in Mewar), the sets, the costumes, everything. They have achieved wonders even within a TV serial budget.

As for EK's Jodha Akbar, the bad news is that my hope that it would sweep PR away to the 11 pm slot is likely to be belied. With Maharana Pratap and the soon to start Mahabharata (with the perfect Krishna), this travesty of a Jodha Akbar is most unlikely to get anywhere with the TRPs. With BALH, which I had abandoned 4 months ago, also sinking. I am very much afraid that PR is not going away any time soon, alas!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: nikitagmc

Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago

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Posted: 12 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: nikitagmc

I am not a historian myself, but from what I remember Akbar was a political genius. He inherited a fragmented empire that was constantly engaged in war. He realized early on, that if he wants to be successful, he will have to employ both muscle and love to hold on to an empire, especially with states like Rajputs and other warrior states. So, one of the common practice was beheading of defeated Kings. He stopped that practice. He subdued his opponent, and once the opponents were subdued, he made them his friends, allowing them to rule their state independently to an extent as long as they accepted him as the Emperor of India. This achieved 2 things - it made sure that these states were under him, but he was not directly responsible to rule them - or he had to maintain that arm. Rather his army was free for other exploits. The subordinated Kings also maintained their own arms that he could use, when and if needed. This policy also were helpful to states wish were far from the Capital – so a certain amount of independence had to be given to the rulers, who could be subordinate to him and respect him, but be friendly enough too. It was a mutually beneficial relationship that developed. Akbar was no softie, but brilliant to know how to be a politically successful emperor. The same middle path, he adopted for religion, but after him, the next rulers became increasing intolerant towards Hindus again and the subsequent fall out…

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Posted: 12 years ago
#46

Here is how men are treated by women in EK show...Sex and Men = like a piece of meat thrown at men just to get what they want by women

See the dog's posture when the bone is thrown at him...For a treat dog will do anything 😳
Edited by Dabulls23 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#47
hilly, your new name made me 🤣...
so true, its not just we should not suprise for archu's actions, we should epexct her actions to be more ugly...
varsha di, i agree, the revenge, instead it is a sweet romantic revenge...but what is the galthi of twins and sachu...
anu, sure the title song attracted many to watch this show...such a simple Archu became Daayan
Edited by m_masti - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Here is how men are treated by women in EK show...Sex and Men like a piece of meat thrown just to get what they want by women

See the dog's posture when the bone is thrown at him...For a treat dog will do anything 😳

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Yaar PR may be pukeworthy, but KC rocks!!!! (and Roll - for BatzeešŸ˜‰)šŸ˜†šŸ˜†
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Also Kalapi his association with Rajputs was from his boyhood days . He grew up with them when his father was in exile . He had experienced their fierce loyalty and bravery . He played with them , had them for friends , knew how their minds worked ...what miffed them , what brought out their loyalty . When Humayun was exiled , Rajputs gave him shelter and stood loyally by him . Akbar grew up naturally religiously tolerant and as u said , he was one of a kind , a political genius . I am not even gonna see that serial , i am so tired of Ekta Kapoor and her illiteracy .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#50
Actually, Kools, I think I will pass on the episode. I am not keen to watch poor Onir being slapped by all and sundry. He should have asked Arjun whether he was so outraged because he was hankering after his (former?) inamorata, despite being still married to Ovi. And perhaps slapped him back as well. What an idiot they have reduced him to!

As for Akbar, by all accounts he had a well provisioned harem, and his marriages with Rajasthani princesses were political unions. He seems to have been a naturally tolerant and compassionate person (perhaps he inherited that from his father, who carried this to an excess of gentleness that ill befits a ruler), and that was shown well in the film, when the young Jalal refuses to behead the defeated Hemu and Bairam Khan does it instead. His political instincts were very finely honed and that reinforced his natural broad-mindedness. This Akbar is going to be a travesty of the historical Akbar, who, incidentally, is very well documented in contemporary accounts.

It is interesting that the Emperor Akbar and Queen Elizabeth I of England were contemporaries for the whole of her reign and for all but 4 years of his. He ruled from 1556 AD to 1605 AD and she from 1558 AD to 1603 AD. Curious, no, that there were two such remarkably gifted rulers with parallel lives, so to speak?

Shyamala

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

We will decide on a show and see it from the start . A new start .


shyamala thank u dear and i agree that Onir needs to be rapped but Arjun hollering righteously at him and hitting him was TOO much for me to digest...its high time Arjun is slapped . High time .

Thank god for the BV track anu , its the only interesting thing on TV

PR degrades men . They r shown as brainless sex addicts who praise and praise women and a little sex is then thrown their way . The women then go on to do all nonsense and the men have to give them 'saath'by agreeing to all their rubbish

Akbar was NOT a tyrant . He was one of the most religiously tolerant muslim emperors India had and his era is the golden era of the Mughal Sultaniyat /

Showing that he was a heartless tyrant and Jodha tamed him with sex is extreme Ekta Kapoor nonsense . At least spare history . Akbar could have ANY amount of beautiful women , men in those days need not depend just on their queens and their tantrums or moods for sex . They were allowed to have concubines ...in fact the queens were insecure . But Akbar was a serious minded emperor who had ruled since he was a pre teen ...his life experience gave him that maturity . Ekta shows r obsessed with Kali and sassy women who r projected as the kali spirit ...Bani did Kali aarti in kasam se now Jodha does kaali aarti in Jodha Akbar . See the akkal .

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