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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam



You are too serious about a tongue in cheek effort, my dear!😉

Purvi used to repeat her salwar suits endlessly even when she was not married. Our gang, Archana, Janhvi, Jyothi, and a few others, once offered to get up a collect to replenish her wardrobe, and there was much rejoicing when she suddenly lucked out and was seen in a couple of new outfits, one blue and the other pink😉. I am told Archana supplies her own wardrobe.

What I do not know is why all these extra wigs for Purvi; in the old days there was only one lamentable bump at the back, and on the odd occasions when they forgot to insert it, she looked much prettier!

It is not that there were no blouses at all till the 1800s or the 1900s, though that might have been the case in parts of India. I have it from my grandma, and she from hers They, I was told, used to wear a blouse with long sleeves, with one button at the top in front and the lower ends knotted together. Widows did not wear any blouse, and they also had shorn heads in those old days. My paternal grandma shaved her head, but no one else in the family after her did that, thank God!

As for medieval fashions, as regards the Mughal times (16th/17th centuries) and even earlier, we have concrete evidence in the miniature paintings, of both the Mughal school and the Rajasthani and the Pahari schools. What they wore then was, as you would remember from those paintings, like the chaniya choli now in Rajasthan, and a much heavier top dress in the Mughal areas, like Saswati Sen in kathak costume. The latter was the Islamic influence. That was naturally well before the memsahibs landed up, with their frumpy Victorian dress sense.

In ancient times, though there seems to be, as far as I am aware, no irrefutable evidence like the miniature paintings, the traditional dress seems to have been was what was called a koochabandham, like a bikini top, and the lehenga below, with or without a dupatta. That is why the classical statues in the old temples show the women in a koochabandham, that is when they were not shown as topless.

Of course they were more up front about their bodies in the days of Kalidasa, which was the 5th century AD, Or at least so the temple sculptures would have you believe, though there seems to be no other independent sartorial evidence. Why, if one read Kalidasa's very explicit descriptions of the female form, one would be shocked!

It is not a question of right and wrong at all, but of individual choice.

As for the 'if you have it, flaunt it 'approach, that is fine by me. But personally,I think that it is what is hinted at, and now shown, now hidden, is more tantalising than full on exposure. Though I still have quite a decent looking back, I would not wear a backless blouse, even to a party. The saree can be a very sensual garment if one wants it to be, with as much as 18 inches shown between a tiny blouse and a low hip saree, and to my mind, a backless blouse is a tad in your face and thus unnecessary.

For once, I hasten to add that this is my opinion, and I have nothing against those want to strut their stuff wherever! If they would only spare me the rolls of fat! But they never do😉.

Shyamala Di


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Shyamala Di




Shymala dear, another brilliant write up 👏, had to appreciate a good post when I see one..
And I especially agree with the underlined, and the fact that what is hidden might be much more enticing to the imagination😆
Edited by Kalapi - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Really? Women in backless blouses dont travel in buses, trains, or rickshaws? Then how do the tribal women, the rural women who wear cholis travel? By private jets? 😆
I can post pictures of hundreds of Rajasthani women in melas and festivals wearing backless cholis. They are in public places. I have travelled to Himalayan pilgrimages where these Rajasthani folks come wearing their ethnic dress. That means they are indecent?
And some rural women in Bengal still go blouseless because they are too poor to buy one...so they are indecent too, right? 😆
Purvi's backless blouses are indecent, then obviously Ovi's off the shoulder dresses that she wore in Indian malls and stores are downright vulgar, right?
Q.E.D. I rest my case!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Pallavi,

You are too serious about a tongue in cheek effort, my dear!😉

Purvi used to repeat her salwar suits endlessly even when she was not married. Our gang, Archana, Janhvi, Jyothi, and a few others, once offered to get up a collect to replenish her wardrobe, and there was much rejoicing when she suddenly lucked out and was seen in a couple of new outfits, one blue and the other pink😉. I am told Archana supplies her own wardrobe.

What I do not know is why all these extra wigs for Purvi; in the old days there was only one lamentable bump at the back, and on the odd occasions when they forgot to insert it, she looked much prettier!

It is not that there were no blouses at all till the 1800s or the 1900s, though that might have been the case in parts of India. I have it from my grandma, and she from hers They, I was told, used to wear a blouse with long sleeves, with one button at the top in front and the lower ends knotted together.
Widows did not wear any blouse, and they also had shorn heads in those old days. My paternal grandma shaved her head, but no one else in the family after her did that, thank God!

As for medieval fashions, as regards the Mughal times (16th/17th centuries) and even earlier, we have concrete evidence in the miniature paintings, of both the Mughal school and the Rajasthani and the Pahari schools. What they wore then was, as you would remember from those paintings, like the chaniya choli now in Rajasthan, and a much heavier top dress in the Mughal areas, like Saswati Sen in kathak costume. The latter was the Islamic influence. That was naturally well before the memsahibs landed up, with their frumpy Victorian dress sense.

In ancient times, though there seems to be, as far as I am aware, no irrefutable evidence like the miniature paintings, the traditional dress seems to have been was what was called a koochabandham, like a bikini top, and the lehenga below, with or without a dupatta. That is why the classical statues in the old temples show the women in a koochabandham, that is when they were not shown as topless.

Of course they were more up front about their bodies in the days of Kalidasa, which was the 5th century AD, Or at least so the temple sculptures would have you believe, though there seems to be no other independent sartorial evidence. Why, if one read Kalidasa's very explicit descriptions of the female form, one would be shocked!

It is not a question of right and wrong at all, but of individual choice.

As for the 'if you have it, flaunt it 'approach, that is fine by me. But personally,I think that it is what is hinted at, and now shown, now hidden, is more tantalising than full on exposure. Though I still have quite a decent looking back, I would not wear a backless blouse, even to a party. The saree can be a very sensual garment if one wants it to be, with as much as 18 inches shown between a tiny blouse and a low hip saree, and to my mind, a backless blouse is a tad in your face and thus unnecessary.

For once, I hasten to add that this is my opinion, and I have nothing against those want to strut their stuff wherever! If they would only spare me the rolls of fat! But they never do😉.

Shyamala D
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Dear Shyamala,

I am not taking it seriously but seems that a few young ones here are getting all hot and bothered for very little reason. 😆 They need to take a chill pill!
I have made fun of Purvi's wigs too, u know that, right? In Jahnvi's old post where we were laughing abt PR ka comedy circus?
I criticized Purvi heavily for her baby donation too, I dont have tunnel vision and dont indulge in blind favoritism and fanaticism. I wasnt even a crazy fan of ArVi or AshVik. But I liked their chemistry in their heydey.
Anyway, this is your first Ekta show so probably you dont know that Ekta is very cheap where actors' wardrobe is concerned. Most of the time she expects her actors to wear their own dresses, otherwise they get to wear these used and recycled dresses worn by actors in other shows. I bet Purvi didnt get more than 3-4 salwars before and 2-3 saris nowadays with those same 2 blouses. 😆

What can she do? Sometimes we used to wonder if Balaji wardrobe department even washed those garments or sari blouses before passing them on to the next show.🤢 Ive seen different actresses wear identical sari and blouse in 2 separate shows. Then that same sari was repeated later in another show.

Purvi Onir are poor right now. She cannot have an extensive wardrobe like the rich and privileged Ovi.
So is poverty a crime now? Im sure when Onir gets a job, he will buy his Mishti some new saris and blouses. Unless he gets bumped off by CVs before that.

Poor Asha Negi, she shd just refuse to wear those exaggerated Bouffant wigs...made out of horse hair as u say...😆 Did u notice that the back of bus faced Kinshuk also had a bump on her head, a sorry excuse for a bouffant?

Regarding backless blouses, Archana used to wear them too, did she get the same flak as Purvi is getting now? Or was she forgiven? Shes a 55 yr old grandma wearing backless blouses.

I myself dont wear backless blouses, never have, but I dont judge those who do...I think women shd stop judging other women abt what they wear or dont wear.

As for going blouseless in 1800s, yes that is a fact in old Bengal... if u watch Ray's movies or even in Chokher Bali, both Ash and Raima have gone blouseless in some scenes. I dont think they look vulgar at all but thats a matter of perception.
Edited by pallavi25 - 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Pallavi,

You are too serious about a tongue in cheek effort, my dear!😉

Purvi used to repeat her salwar suits endlessly even when she was not married. Our gang, Archana, Janhvi, Jyothi, and a few others, once offered to get up a collect to replenish her wardrobe, and there was much rejoicing when she suddenly lucked out and was seen in a couple of new outfits, one blue and the other pink😉. I am told Archana supplies her own wardrobe.

What I do not know is why all these extra wigs for Purvi; in the old days there was only one lamentable bump at the back, and on the odd occasions when they forgot to insert it, she looked much prettier!

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Of course they were more up front about their bodies in the days of Kalidasa, which was the 5th century AD, Or at least so the temple sculptures would have you believe, though there seems to be no other independent sartorial evidence. Why, if <font size="2">one</font> read Kalidasa's very explicit descriptions of the female form, <font size="2">one</font> would be shocked!

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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2"><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">As for the 'if you have it, flaunt it 'approach, that is fine by me. <font size="2">But <font size="2">p</font></font></font>ersonally,I think that it is what is hinted at, and now shown, now hidden, is more tantalising than full on exposure. Though I still have quite a decent looking back, I would not wear
a backless blouse, even to a party. The saree can be a very sensual garment if one wants it
to be, with as much as 18 inches shown between a tiny blouse and a low hip
saree, and to my mind, a backless blouse is a tad in your face and thus
unnecessary.

For once, I hasten to add that this is my opinion, and I have nothing against those want to strut their stuff wherever! If they would only spare me the rolls of fat! But they never do😉.

Shyamala Di</font>
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Hi Shyamala aunty! It's so nice to see you here! 🤗
It's like breathing fresh air in a polluted area 😊

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25

Really? Women in backless blouses dont travel in buses, trains, or rickshaws? Then how do the tribal women, the rural women who wear cholis travel? By private jets?😆

I can post pictures of hundreds of Rajasthani women in melas and festivals wearing backless cholis. They are in public places. I have travelled to Himalayan pilgrimages where these Rajasthani folks come wearing their ethnic dress. That means they are indecent?
And some rural women in Bengal still go blouseless because they are too poor to buy one...so they are indecent too, right?😆
Purvi's backless blouses are indecent, then obviously Ovi's off the shoulder dresses that she wore in Indian malls and stores are downright vulgar, right?
Q.E.D. I rest my case!



You know I didn't mean that 😆
What I said was a person doing that sort of fashion
Wearing backless blouses for fashion purposes isn't travelling in public transports
😆
Many people go blouse less because they don't have the money to buy it
In more than one place , backless blouses are the norm
And that's okay
Lets go with your argument , women in Kolkata wear such blouses
And if they do I understand
But Purvi is not living in Kolkata
That's Mumbai she is living in
Then why is she wearing that :I
Ovi has been unethical in more than 1 occasion
She did wear indecent dresses more India many times
But again she has an advantage of travelling by car etc
But I agree her short clothes are not appropriate for the chawl
Her frocks etc
In my opinion there is something right for every place
And ovi's clothing isn't right for a chawl
Not when she wore strapless salwar suits too
But she was living with Arjun then too
So I think we can't blame her entirely
But yes Ovi is at fault for wearing them on a daily basis to her chawl
But why I wouldn't blame Ovi is because she doesn't judge others and interfere in their lives until they hurt her
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thanks a lot, my dear Kalapi.

You know, the part @ blue is 100% true. In Victorian times, one is told that gentlemen used to look out for a glimpse of a woman's well turned ankle, for it was only rarely seen from among all those voluminous petticoats! Nowadays, no one probably even looks at ample skin shows, for they have become commonplace.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Kalapi


Shymala dear, another brilliant write up 👏, had to appreciate a good post when I see one..
And I especially agree with the underlined, and the fact that what is hidden might be much more enticing to the imagination😆


Originally posted by: sashashyam



You are too serious about a tongue in cheek effort, my dear!😉

Purvi used to repeat her salwar suits endlessly even when she was not married. Our gang, Archana, Janhvi, Jyothi, and a few others, once offered to get up a collect to replenish her wardrobe, and there was much rejoicing when she suddenly lucked out and was seen in a couple of new outfits, one blue and the other pink😉. I am told Archana supplies her own wardrobe.

What I do not know is why all these extra wigs for Purvi; in the old days there was only one lamentable bump at the back, and on the odd occasions when they forgot to insert it, she looked much prettier!

It is not that there were no blouses at all till the 1800s or the 1900s, though that might have been the case in parts of India. I have it from my grandma, and she from hers They, I was told, used to wear a blouse with long sleeves, with one button at the top in front and the lower ends knotted together.
Widows did not wear any blouse, and they also had shorn heads in those old days. My paternal grandma shaved her head, but no one else in the family after her did that, thank God!

As for medieval fashions, as regards the Mughal times (16th/17th centuries) and even earlier, we have concrete evidence in the miniature paintings, of both the Mughal school and the Rajasthani and the Pahari schools. What they wore then was, as you would remember from those paintings, like the chaniya choli now in Rajasthan, and a much heavier top dress in the Mughal areas, like Saswati Sen in kathak costume. The latter was the Islamic influence. That was naturally well before the memsahibs landed up, with their frumpy Victorian dress sense.

In ancient times, though there seems to be, as far as I am aware, no irrefutable evidence like the miniature paintings, the traditional dress seems to have been was what was called a koochabandham, like a bikini top, and the lehenga below, with or without a dupatta. That is why the classical statues in the old temples show the women in a koochabandham, that is when they were not shown as topless.

Of course they were more up front about their bodies in the days of Kalidasa, which was the 5th century AD, Or at least so the temple sculptures would have you believe, though there seems to be no other independent sartorial evidence. Why, if one read Kalidasa's very explicit descriptions of the female form, one would be shocked!

It is not a question of right and wrong at all, but of individual choice.

As for the 'if you have it, flaunt it 'approach, that is fine by me. But personally,I think that it is what is hinted at, and now shown, now hidden, is more tantalising than full on exposure. Though I still have quite a decent looking back, I would not wear a backless blouse, even to a party. The saree can be a very sensual garment if one wants it to be, with as much as 18 inches shown between a tiny blouse and a low hip saree, and to my mind, a backless blouse is a tad in your face and thus unnecessary.

For once, I hasten to add that this is my opinion, and I have nothing against those want to strut their stuff wherever! If they would only spare me the rolls of fat! But they never do😉.

Shyamala Di


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Ovi cant be blamed for anything I see...neither for Arjun Archana barter, nor for wearing strappy dresses, short skirts in chawl, nor for driking alcohol whenever shes upset.

Purvi is bad because she wears backless blouses in Mumbai...what a logical reasoning! 😆

Did we ever look at it this way? Purvi Onir dont have money to buy essential things. They are struggling daily, barely have money to buy Pari's milk or other necessities.
Purvi brought those blouses from Kolkata where she wore them on a daily basis. Now in Mumbai they are practically poverty stricken.
Yet nobody has pity on them but on that rich, snooty Ovi who leads a privileged life yet sobs all the time for her deprivations and drinks herself to death.

If Purvi Onir dont have the money how will they buy new blouses and saris for Purvi?
If Ekta doesnt supply good wigs and fancy dresses to Asha Negi then what can she do? 🤔
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Paris, my dear,

I too am very pleased to bump into you again.

There was far too much heat here, and I thought I should do something, tongue firmly in cheek, to lighten things up a bit, but I am not sure how far it was effective. However, I am glad you enjoyed it, as did a couple of others.

My advice to you and to Waneeka (my dear, I hope you will see this!) is not to let anything here get so much under your skin that it makes you engage in a pointless debate, verging on a slanging match, that neither side can win.

You would both be much better off watching Saraswatichandra, which is infinitely superior to PR.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: paris.hilton


Hi Shyamala aunty! It's so nice to see you here! 🤗
It's like breathing fresh air in a polluted area 😊

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Ok Shyamala Aunty. Thank you for your advice 😊
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Originally posted by: sashashyam




There was far too much heat here, and I thought I should so something, tongue firmly in cheek, to lighten things up a bit, but I am not sure how far it was effective. However, I am glad you enjoyed it, as did a couple of others.

My advice to you and to Waneeka (my dear, I hope you will see this!) is not to let anything here get so much under your skin that it makes you engage in a pointless debate, verging on a slanging match, that neither side can win.

You would both be much better off watching Saraswatichandra, which is infinitely superior to PR.

Shyamala Aunty



Dear Shyamala,

I find your post here somewhat confusing. Do you mean that my topic is meaningless and a slanging match? Have u been to the other posts where open bashing and fighting is going on? I didnt see you playing peacekeeper there!
I intended this as a clarification post but some members came here and started fighting instead of debating. And I feel u dont appreciate my attempts at humor the same way that I do yours. That is a pity.
The question is who is getting more serious and who is trying to explain things in a cool manner. I think anyone who goes through all the posts can clearly see the demarcation.
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