Take two - a tangled web they weave! - Page 2

No,Janhvi, I am afraid that excuse simply will not wash. There is of course no obligation on your part, or indeed on anyone's part, to comment on any of my posts, but if I were to respond only if I agreed with everything you wrote, why then I would have to pass up everything you write, including this one! But I 'Like' even posts I do not agree with, for the tone, the style, and much else. Not that it matters; I do not want even one Like that is not felt,what to speak of a million likes, and for what?

As for Ovi in my post, I do not see how saying that "She later pleased me even more by arriving - after she has lost a very good modeling contract because she is married - at the entirely self-centred and stunningly practical conclusion that she should never have insisted on marrying Arjun. If only this wisdom had dawned on her much, much earlier! " can be interpreted as canonising her. It sounds strange to me, but of course to each her own.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Dear dear Shyamala,😆I did not even make an attempt to veil my bias, I put it forth straight and upfront for all to see, I said plain and clear, "I may, just may, be biased". 😃

I did love your post except I felt you were too speedily promoting Ovi to sainthood, small faltering steps to martyrdom would be more acceptable and believable to me. She may be making inroads but she does not have a halo akin to Onir's as yet. Had you dunked everyone into the same whirlpool of black humor, I would have put in a million likes.😉

As for Purvi, she is a nitwit and while I do have a lingering fondness, she irks me with her inconstancy about Pari as well. I get the vacillation, commiserate with her lot in life, but day in and day out of the same thing gets monotonous and cumbersome, same with the goodness of Onir, and the despondency of Arjun, AND the "I have been wronged" attitude of Ovi's. They are all four well past my limits of endurance and my tolerance level is teetering on the brink of a precipice. I can no longer suffer any of them including Manav.

As I wrote to Varsha, I enjoyed the sanyasin, DK, and also Savita. Savi was true to self while Sulo was the queen of exaggerated outrage, Ovi was restrained and that much I did appreciate. I cannot stand the same blouse of Purvi's with every sari and do not mind her hanging locks at all though the ratted hair style with the bump on her head is getting to me as much as it is to you. There, I have gotten that off my chest and can rest easier.😉

I agree as Onir paced with that lost look on his face, he did look like he had been cuckolded. Thank God for small mercies, Arjun did ask Onir if they could stay overnight and sensibly did not direct his question to Purvi.

As for the baby having gotten used to Ovi or Arjun, Pari seems as indecisive as her mommy dearest 😆, she quietened in Purvi's arms before, in Ovi's arms before, cried a lot in her papa's arms, so it would be safe to say the CVs are experimenting as to whose arms provide the safest haven. My take, she is a baby and is probably just hungry or wet and no amount of cooing is going to stop her cries until her needs are met by any one of them.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Janhvi dearest,

Lovely stuff as usual. Beautifully written, and with that artfully done attempt at seeming objective - What me? Biased in favour of Purvi? Not on your life! Well, if you must, just a tee,,,,,eeny, weeny bit!😉

But you know what, you are, despite your brave statement of a day back about not caring for any of these dysfunctional characters, nowhere near nirvana yet. Which is why you do not like anything in my post of yesterday, Comedy Circus 3, except the title.You are still wrapped up in at least one of the characters, and wrapped out of (now that is neat, no?) another. And this affection, which is an admirable thing in itself, and this disaffection (that is a real word!) colours your writing. Some of the colours are very pretty, though!

Whereas I, my dear, am, like Parvati trying to master the ashatanga yoga in Devon ke dev Mahadev, almost there, at the Valhalla of complete detachment. They all look ridiculous to me, even my sole remaining favourite, Onir, as he plays the cuckold. Yes, it is an ugly term, and not literally true either, but I can think of no other that fits him even half as well.

He can now redeem himself and become interesting only if he goes the way I have outlined in my latest post, and becomes a snarling, dominating, aggressive husband, who teaches his mishti about the responsibilities, as distinct from what she knows by heart, the advantages of marriage.Like bothering a bit about what is happening to your slowly disintegrating spouse while taking a break from cooing to your baby (which, incidentally, is NOT going to take to the delights of the kholi).

As for DK, he is like that only, and I see him as an oasis of non-action amidst the hysterical goings on in PR these days. But his oyster satin dressing gown, with those red facings, was frightful, and someone should warn him that without his moustache, he looks undressed and very far from his usual self.

As for Ovi, I was pleased to see that she is returning to her old form, minus the shrieking fits.Plus these days I prefer anyone who is not a candidate for self-declared sainthood, like your clearly current ladli.

So, dearest Janhvi, I prefer my black humour to your take here, but I do realise, as I wrote on your thread just now to Vasu and Pallavi, that there will not be much a readership for this sort of no holds barred satire, making fun of sacred icons. Those who still love Arjun and/or Purvi, the obvious candidates for being skeweredm will detest such irreverence, and that is 95% of the forum.

So my posts on that series will be, quite unlike my old, highly emotional stuff, strictly an acquired taste for a minority, and I am content to have it that way.

Shyamala

Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago

Who is this Zoya? I am confused, and would be grateful for a clarification.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: Gina101

@ soapwatcher1 I really like how unbiased you are in your posts. 😊

Rithvick is doing such brilliant job in his scenes with Zoya !!. What you said about the episode, i could not have put it any better myself. ' What a tangled web we weave' indeed .

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Who is this Zoya? I am confused, and would be grateful for a clarification.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Shyamala, Zoya is the baby who plays Pari.
Will be back to respond to your other post.

Well, Vasu, sorry to butt in, here is my tuppence on, what else, Purvi and Ovi!

I was pleased that Ovi had become practical, and had started thinking of something other than Arjun and motherhood. To my mind neither a man nor a child can be the be all and end all of a woman's life, to the exclusion of all else. It is a capital mistake to let this kind of mindset develop, for it cripples you, and does the man and the kid(s) no good either. As I noted, Ovi has come to this realisation far too late to go any good to anyone but herself, but as for getting there only after losing the contract, how else would she come to it? I for one hope she does not go back to Arjun, and gets a divorce, so that she is again marketable, and then sees what life has to offer her other than men and matrimony.

Strange as it seems even to me. I now begin to actually prefer Ovi, simply because she is at least real in her flaws, unlike the other plaster saint who wreaks more all round havoc that anyone else, and all for the bhalayi of those at the receiving end of her benevolence.

Ovi at least apologises every time she errs, to Arjun, and to Purvi, time and again. She is intemperate, very foolish, and given to bouts of self-pity,and earlier she was obnoxious and arrogant to boot, but in recent times, she had really tried to reform herself, and even to accept Purvi, till the latest revelations torpedoed that.

Purvi, on the other hand, is convinced that she can do no wrong, for which she cannot really be blamed. as this has been drilled into her head all her life by her aai and her aaji. But the consequences of this moral arrogance are disastrous for the unfortunate recipients of her attentions. I used to almost love her on par with Arjun once, but now she is a walking demolition machine.

I would give Purvi a pass for not having sought Onir's permission to bring Pari to live with them, for she knows that he was all along not just ready to accept her child, but to love it as his own.

But I will not give her a pass for not having any idea of what Onir must be going through, or for failing to notice that he is slowly disintegrating under the combined stress of professional disgrace, no work and nothing to do but baby sit his Mishti's kid.

Nor would I give her a pass for apparently not even realising how he would be feeling watching her and Arjun cosying up to Pari on that bed, shutting him out completely. A wife who cares for her husband - and what a paragon of a husband! - would have invited him too to play with the baby.

Onir is of course responsible for much that is now wrong with Purvi. She owes him everything, he owes her nothing. He should have taken a firm line with her from the beginning, and not bent to breaking point to indulge her whims and fancies. If I had been he, after that unedifying bedroom scene of Arjun and Purvi with Pari (it was exactly like a French farce, husband, wife and wife's ex-lover, except that the French did not go in for babies, legit or not) I would have not have hung around, unnoticed and looking extremely ridiculous. This is not my idea of broadmindedness. I would have announced, without any preamble, that I was going back to the kholi, but if she wanted to, she could stay. It would have been interesting to see her reaction.

In that sense, Onir has brought his present fate on himself. If you let yourself be taken for granted, as an eternally devoted and 'understanding' spouse, no wonder you end up as a convenience, but of no real consequence. No one, in this case no woman, should be given so much importance that she makes you forget both your principles and your good sense. And this for a relationship in which he only gives and gives, and gets nothing in return. Pure, unadulterated folly.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: archis_2013

Hi Jhanvi, I wrote a long post in the morning but couldn't send it as my laptop crashed. I had to rush to pick up my little one from school and so dropped the idea of continuing.

How apt are you about the take two! I had to read two version of the episodes - one through the eyes of Shayamala aunty and the other is yours. Double the take, double the humor and double the enjoyment.

Not sure if it is me, I feel the show itself is looking more and more odd as the days goes by! No, not talking about the story-line but starting from the direction to the acting, except for few occassional seconds of brilliance, the shots don't gel that much. Looks like the whole unit has lost the will to continue. I would like to know if you felt the same.

Anyways, the tamasha continued. While I was impressed with Ovi's quiet contempt while the family drama was unfolding, how typical was she to repeat the cut in the hand when Purvi called her 'meri beti'. And for her to recognise how wrong on her Zithi to get married to Arjun without a remorse or feeling it was a 'galti' only after she didn't get the modelling contract - just shows the lady is learning the ways of the world but not much changed underneath.

As for Purvi, her public display of mamta made me uncomfortable. She finally made the right decision to take Pari as it was her responsibility. After her musings on Pari, she declares to Onir that she will bring back Pari. No question, no request. Ovi and Purvi apparently don't believe in the power of consultation but take decisions on their own.

The scene between Arjun, Purvi and Onir in K mansion was awkward at its best. It looked like a scene inserted in between to appease one fan group but don't we know better ...

DK sage was the biggest comedian. He did not offer a single word to comfort Arjun on his sorrow about Pari. No wonder Arjun feels it is a much better choice to cry buckets over the plastic frame of his mom's photo!

PR is fast degenerating from even a Comedy circus to a horrow show. The characters resemble the bhatakte ... atmaas !!

Originally posted by: ilovedhanjanird

Being an Ovi supporter I found her actions quite shameful when she herself wanted nothing to do with the baby
She broke the glass because idk?
Worst of all was Arjun , why does he need to fix his pavitra rishta
He doesn't love Ovi and why can't he just let her be and send her the divorce papers
Ruchi and sunny are getting on my nerves
I think ruchi is cute
But it will be weird if they fall in love out of the blue lol

Originally posted by: Gina101

@ soapwatcher1 I really like how unbiased you are in your posts. 😊

Rithvick is doing such brilliant job in his scenes with Zoya !!. What you said about the episode, i could not have put it any better myself. ' What a tangled web we weave' indeed .

Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Ovi broke her glass which was in her hand to relieve the pain she was going thru...Her inner pain...She probably was not even aware that she squeezed the glass so much that it broke...Its the reaction to her inner pain..and she did follow it with her line This is nothing compared to the pain the so called loved ones have given her ...SOmething to that line..

She was happy and relieved to see Soham bringing pari back..

Her expressions in one episode went from Shock, worry, hurt, pain, relief, disgust, contempt and than some...No where there was jealousy...She handled it quite well...My POV Ofcourse..

Sorry to butt in..

Janhavi pls do relook at the scene if u can...

You know I apologize to you if I dont spell your name correctly as your name is spell differently than I am used to "jhanvi"...It is rude to spell or pronouce someone's name wrong..It is a question of pride.😳

I rather not make that mistake and go with SW if that is OK 😳

Originally posted by: archis_2013

Hi Jhanvi, I wrote a long post in the morning but couldn't send it as my laptop crashed. I had to rush to pick up my little one from school and so dropped the idea of continuing.

How apt are you about the take two! I had to read two version of the episodes - one through the eyes of Shayamala aunty and the other is yours. Double the take, double the humor and double the enjoyment.

Not sure if it is me, I feel the show itself is looking more and more odd as the days goes by! No, not talking about the story-line but starting from the direction to the acting, except for few occassional seconds of brilliance, the shots don't gel that much. Looks like the whole unit has lost the will to continue. I would like to know if you felt the same.

Anyways, the tamasha continued. While I was impressed with Ovi's quiet contempt while the family drama was unfolding, how typical was she to repeat the cut in the hand when Purvi called her 'meri beti'. And for her to recognise how wrong on her Zithi to get married to Arjun without a remorse or feeling it was a 'galti' only after she didn't get the modelling contract - just shows the lady is learning the ways of the world but not much changed underneath.

As for Purvi, her public display of mamta made me uncomfortable. She finally made the right decision to take Pari as it was her responsibility. After her musings on Pari, she declares to Onir that she will bring back Pari. No question, no request. Ovi and Purvi apparently don't believe in the power of consultation but take decisions on their own.

The scene between Arjun, Purvi and Onir in K mansion was awkward at its best. It looked like a scene inserted in between to appease one fan group but don't we know better ...

DK sage was the biggest comedian. He did not offer a single word to comfort Arjun on his sorrow about Pari. No wonder Arjun feels it is a much better choice to cry buckets over the plastic frame of his mom's photo!

PR is fast degenerating from even a Comedy circus to a horrow show. The characters resemble the bhatakte ... atmaas !!

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Waneeka (may I call you that and have I spelt your name right?), I don't know why Ovi broke the glass either. As for Arjun, if his heart is not in it, he should be sending the divorce papers, better to make a clean break than keep poking at a festering wound.

Ruchi is cute but the Sunny's mock expression of raised eyebrows at her (not this time around) is grating. I guess they have to have enough eyelocks to justify undying love.

Of course you can call me that :)
And you are Jhanvi Di right ?
And after all the fighting for the love
Ruchi and sunny like each other
Based on what ? Ruchi crying because of punni ?
Then sunny should fall for Purvi :/
And Ovi might have been angry because Purvi was holding her daughter and saying "meri beti" I guess saying it was one thing but seeing was quite another
I am not mad at anyone other than Arjun
This man needs to know what he wants
You want Purvi , fight for her
He has a stronger ground now
They have a baby together
You don't want Ovi
Don't try to put the pieces back together
Di , all shows have illogical contents
But this show crosses all boundaries of illogical situations