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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Kalapi

So Janhvi, my dear, how has Ovi regressed in her 'maturity' index after the truth was revealed. What could you have done yourself after knowing that the child you believed your all along was someone else given to her by dhoka, and that child is the illegitimate love child of her hubby and her adopted sister, and the hubby, btw, still have hots for his Saali. What should she have done to please you and give ovi the prized title of 'ideal mother"'

Dear, dear Kalapi, there you go again trying to pin me down :)
Now, did I ever say Ovi was wrong or immature in the way she behaved about the baby switch?
How would I have behaved about the illegitimate child? If I had broken up my sister's marriage the day of her wedding and married her fiance, I would have been upset at finding out that the husband and sister had had a baby but I would have been angry at myself too for having been blind enough to have not seen the writing on the wall. It would not have come as a surprise and if the husband still had feelings for the sister, what could I do? I cannot control his mind, if he was physically faithful that is all I could expect, right? inspite of having impossible dreams that he would miraculously forget the said sister and start loving me overnight. Thank God, I don't have a sister nor would I ever demean myself to marry a man who cared not two hoots for me. I would have figuratively kicked him to the roadside and gone on my merry way.
Let me turn around and ask you, if your sister was gettting married to the guy you love, would you have married him and made him your husband knowing he did not care for you?
Edited by soapwatcher1 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Cmon pari , hilly someone ...give a take on how the infidelity in Masoom is far less severe to what Ovi faced and what Arjun did is infidelity too ...infidelity is not just physically sleeping and declaring that as chaste😆 cmon girls ...im feeling lazy😆😆
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Cmon pari , hilly someone ...give a take on how the infidelity in Masoom is far less severe to what Ovi faced and what Arjun did is infidelity too ...infidelity is not just physically sleeping and declaring that as chaste😆 cmon girls ...im feeling lazy😆😆


Kools, even I am bored yaar...how many times to repeat same thing...child out of wedlock, is child out of wedlock without knowledge of wife is dhoka! And anyway, does this reduce the pain of any woman who has lost her own child and that dead child is disposed off to replace this love child, and to top it, husband does not even mourn THEIR child together and does not bother telling his wife of the tragedy that has struck them?

I have again and again mentioned the stark contrast between the movie and this show, with simply a similar premise to boot.

Extra-marital ho ya, pre-marital affair ho, accepting a child of your husband's from another woman is not easy for anyone. And what makes it easy, is a loving husband, a husband who respects you as his wife, who loves you and your child equally and does not keep pining after the woman who he had an affair once upon a time. Arjun is an idiot who lives in his past, pines after purvi openly, heck, he openly eye-locks with her, meets with her, discusses their baccha, goes out of his way for her, and even chaddi-buddies with her present husband talking about how he sees purvi EVERYWHERE.

He does not love his wife and it is evident, he does not even respect her, and he definitely has no sense of attachment to his dead child with her who he happily procreated of his own will. Shabana had none of these issues with Naseer. To top it, the woman was DEAD and the boy had nowhere else to go and Naseer did not keep looking out of windows imagining that fling and pining after her yaadien, and she was not her SISTER who is always going to be around no matter what they do.

Kools, honestly I was brought up differently and my take on the world is dinosaur like. If a man was dating someone before marriage, I do not AUTOMATICALLY assume he OBVIOUSLY had sex. I understand a kiss here and here and holding hands, but I do not simply assume sex, because I do not have that mindset nor did I grow up with people with similar ideas. Ovi has always been a one man woman and she was not shown to try and get physically intimate with Arjun except for a hug, so to her mindset too, it may seem far fetched that the amar-premis had some kind of jaldi to have sex, uncontrollable hormones or whatever, and did it before their wedding.

I am not deriding pre-marital sex, I am sure it happens and is kind of an ok think for most these days, but I do not think that Ovi is as hurt by his pre-marital sex than the fact that he never told her about Pari right after he knew, he shows no remorse for their dead child, not even understanding her situation and wants to her to simply accept pari and him as it was not dhoka.

I really wonder if people are that big hearted today ke husband had an affair ( which he tells you about) and later you come to know his sex resulted in a baby and you simply are expected to take care of it, like an understanding loving person, despite that your husband has shown you not an ounce of respect adn love in your year of marriage.

for ovi, the yard stick will always be different on this forum, even if people claim to be objective. I am tired of explaining logic here!
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Posted: 12 years ago
hilly dear, I would love your take on this extra-marital veruss pre-marital sex baby..please give us some insight in your usual logic and funny style! LEt there be light, homie, let there be light! :P
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Posted: 12 years ago
Me the OFFDA thought MFing with Eyelocks was infidelity so what do I know 😳 many ways one could claim infidelity, physical, emotional etc..
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Edited by Dabulls23 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Me the OFFDA thought MFing with Eyelocks was infidelity so what do I know 😳 many ways one could claim infidelity, physical, emotional etc..

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oh dear varsha di, me being YFFDA also thought that was infidelity, but alas, the forum is very open minded and most think Ovi had that coming for making that deal and BAD OVI deserves nothing but to be sadhu sant and accept the love child of husband's chup chaap without an oo or aaa.

First everyone wanted her to re-unite Arjun-Purvi to absolve her of that one deal...which she did...She walked out of her marriage and told them both to get together..but that was her insulting Onir now...Arjun was too much of a wuss to walk out of his marriage that he could not keep from his end himself, but Ovi had the guts to walk out and quit on him, leaving him to go back puppy to Purvi if he likes. But now, suddenly rule is changed and she needs to accept pari like a big hearted person within 3 days of finding out about her true parentage and the fact that her child is dead, disposed off, she has not seen him/her and not even held her. No mourning or recovering period for her, simply get over it and go back to your infidel husband ( because of his love and longing for Purvi all through his marriage which was supported by this forum on counts of their amar prem and how Ovi came between them). So infidelity post marriage by eye locking and pining and longing are supported which is what? An extra-marital feeling only na? That is supported because why? It is amar prem and Ovi had to see it coming! It all always boil down to that one deal, irrespective of the fact that Arjun-Purvi also knew what they were getting into. That is conveniently sidestepped on as bhalai, tyaag for love, and what not.

Now, Ovi has to absolve herself by accepting the baby, chup chaap, because why? It was PRE-MARITAL sex not EXTRA-Marital sex.

When Purvi would eye-lock Arjun and vice versa post marriage, it was said, obviously lovers need time to move on and it's only been a month and blah blah and they need all the time in the world to forget and move ahead. But now, Ovi has only had 3 days to take all this in, but she is expected to simply forget her dead child and accept this one as replacement conveniently.

Why separate yardsticks? If Arjun-Purvi were EXPECTED to eye-lock post marriage because they needed time to move on from one another, can OVi not be EXPECTED to take time to mourn her dead child, deal with this PRE-MARITAL SEX and resultant baby and then decide if she wants to keep it? Purvi;s mamta is conveniently switched on and off, today she was conveniently Ovi's baby because her Onir was in jail, but before when Ovi was taking care of the baby, Purvi was thopoing her mamta by sly breastfeeding and sly snucking up close to Pari. So give Ovi also na that on-off swtich.

But no, Ovi made that ONE DAMN DEAL and she is going to be stuck with this forum and their separate yardsticks forever.


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Edited by pari87 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Ah, but bee, you forget that from her point of view, he is the man who, after saying all those very sweet things to her about his being like her brother, disposed of her dead child like a piece of unwanted rubbish, and hid that from her. Why on earth would she admire him for his selflessness? What selflessness? Tending to the poor in Kolkata? And for that she should forgive him the terrible wrong he did her?Have a heart!

I am very, very fond of Onir, but here he is squarely in the wrong, and all because of his dangerous obsession with keeping his mishti happy, which overrides his commonsense and his professional ethics both.

As for Ovi exposing all this at the party, apart from the fact that this is mandatory in PR, she is tipsy. And why is she tipsy? Because she sees Arjun and Purvi whispering to each other; she then sets down the orange juice and picks up the vodka.,

As for venting her venom on Arjun and Purvi in public, why not? They had no shame having that gandharva vivah in that dirty shack, an d producing this child that becomes the apple of Arjun's eye as soon as he learns it is Purvi's. So why be ashamed of acknowledging their amar prem in public now? As for her asking them to get together again, she then believes that their affair is post his marriage and is still ongoing, so why would she not say that?

As for "
If Ovi had really loved Arjun, she wouldn't have had issues with Pari, in some time", who are we to say that? I am not at all sure I would, in my youth, have been able to accept such a situation. If you are sure you could have, that is another thing. This has nothing to do with Ovi having loved Arjun. Just because one loves a man, it does not follow that one has to accept the love child he has fathered with his (not even ex) beloved. Not in my book at least.


Shyamala




Dear Shyamala,

Doing wrong and Talking filth are two different things. Onir did wrong does not mean Ovi had to talk filth. If someone did wrong, you(generic term) do not have to stoop low.
Yes, Ovi had all the right to ask Onir about baby switch, but she did not have to talk about Onir's wife leaving him and marrying her own husband. Like Janhvi already wrote, that was just very crude of her.

Abt the venue -
Has Ovi ever showed patience and thought-out in detail or talked before?
If she thought the affair was post her marriage, did someone stop her from asking that before announcing it in the party?
Ovi knew about the truth one whole day earlier and in the night when Arjun comes back, she expects him to confess. He doesn't and she is heart broken. Till there, it was fine.
But couldn't she talk after that? It is her life. If she doesn't talk who will? She could have asked Arjun, no? If that was too early, she could've come back from the party and ask, but no, she had to choose the party. Can I expect anything good and decent from Ovi. For once?

I have written this long time back and am repeating.
That night at the hilltop Purvi called Ovi and Ovi came running to marry Arjun.
Given their history, Ovi should have talked to Arjun before the marriage and made sure if he was willing wholeheartedly? If he still loved Purvi? Will he stay true, sincere, not crave for Purvi, not think about her, be honest? No!
Now why cry that they deceived? And what deceit?!

It was her choice, she should have made sure things came to her clean and clear. No, she was just happy she got what she wanted. Now bear the consequences of it too. Now Arjun comes with a baggage, accept that too.

Janhvi, a few pages earlier shared a story of a friend and in reply you did tell about you hearing such stories. Yes, I have too.
If there is no love, they wouldn't be able to do.
If Ovi claimed she loved Arjun unconditionally, and unselfishly, then yes that love should be able to make her see Pari as a human and a baby , and more importantly a part of Arjun and be able to care for her.
If there is love, yes, one can.

And who knows, may be she will come back once she realizes that.




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Posted: 12 years ago
Bee, as usual succinctly put. Will be back to give it a leisurely second read.
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Posted: 12 years ago
Ovi grew up in Canada, she drinks like a fish, she also went to parties and hung around with guys! And still shes supposed to be so innocent she cannot even THINK that Arjun-Purvi may have had a physical relationship? Oh dear, poor Innocent Ovi! 😆 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
Er ...if Ovi drinks like a fish , isn't the baby better off with the mother who doesn't drink like a fish .😉 Isn't it better for the baby . Onir won't mind at all about the settlement and the visitation . The Kaand Trio can bring Pari up wonderfully amongst themselves ...sanskaars of the mom who doesn't drink like a fish , Arjun who is the world's most doting dad [ he gives the child that is alive 100% attention and does not waste a minute on the other dead one as he obviously believes that those alive need all the attention they get] and Onir who is a doctor [ i don't know his exact relation ...god father perhaps ? ]

Why the expectation that a bad alcoholic woman should 'understand' the true meaning of love and bring up Pari ? If Purvi cannot go back to Arjun bcoz of being happily married to a decent man , Arjun can marry a third girl or stay single , opting to be a part of the happy , sacred Kaand Trio I would NOT wish for Pari to be associated with Ovi who drinks like a fish at all . I would like her to grow up with the woman who does not drink ike a fish unless

The woman is incapable of giving the right values to Pari who is a girl as she herself became an unwed mom ? Some may ask that question ...perhaps Manju ...but thats rather far fetched and who gives a damn .


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