The ARJUN KIRLOSKAR that I know - Page 5

Originally posted by: jdronamraju

I was never a big follower of hindi soaps before, just used to watch them sporadically, but sometime early last year, I had watched PR by chance and saw this young, dynamic, yuppy, arrogant businessman who had come to India on business and he caught my attention. Boy, did he ! He was so different from the norm, confident, arrogant, self-assured, smart, articulate, no-nonsense guy, that I was hooked all the way. I have watched him tangle with Purvi, then slowly but surely fall in love unknowingly. His realization that he is in love was shown so beautifully, but once he was in, it was all the way with him. Nothing with Arjun is half ways. That is the beautiful part of it. He went through misunderstandings, trials and tribulations in winning his love, but he held steadfast all the way. And, he did get his love for a while. Those were the glorious days of his life.

When he said of Purvi, "Khud se zyaada pyaar karoonga main", it was not just mere words that he uttered, he meant them all the way. And all his actions before and after Purvi's betrayal show that. His actions are misunderstood as weakness, but it is not so. For he means what he says. He will go to any lengths for his love. That may not be kosher for all, but that is how he is. All or None. That is probably not easy for all to understand. Despite how Ovi had got him, he has tried his best, not an easy task, to be a husband to her. She had not made it easy, and neither did Purvi. I really do not want to talk about these two girls now who have wreaked havoc in his life and left him as an empty shell that is his life now.

Why did the CV's not let Arjun fight Purvi when and after she forced him into the wedding, and divorce Ovi is a mystery that I do not understand even now. What they have made him do since then goes against everything that Arjun is. It remains a puzzle as to why Arjun has been butchered so much and is continued to do so even now. He has been nothing but a cameo for the past few months, being a crutch to Ovi, Purvi and sometimes for no reason, other than to hang around. It is a shame, for such a beautiful character to go waste as such. If the intent is to promote other actors, it could still be done, without doing this to Arjun. It just shows the limitations of their imagination and nothing else.

Rithvik has made Arjun real for some of us, such is his talent and dedication to his craft. I was always amazed at the way he has brought this character to life, and the emotions he has protrayed in some of his hallmark scenes are unforgettable. His confession to Purvi, the temple scene before he decides to leave for Canada, Purvi's confession, the rain scene where he tries to convince her later, his chawl scenes, the bridge proposal, and the best of all the night on the bridge before Purvi's betrayal , where he talks about his mother have all been executed so flawlessly, one cannot but fall in love with his talent. The emotions that he is capable of showing with his eyes and face when given a chance are a treat to watch. As Shyamala used to say, he has one of the most mobile faces of recent times. ..he had quite a few of us matured women, also fall in love and empathize with Arjun. That is his biggest achievement and credit goes entirely to Rithvik's talent. If the writers do not use him the way he should be, it is a loss to PR and nothing to him. He probably will still get his pay check ..😊

So, Yes, I stand by him, even today, despite all. For, to me, Arjun Kirloskar, is one of the best and real characters of PR.

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

shyamala dear thank u

I wrote my take for 2 reasons ...someone asked me to and it is a last attempt for CVs to read us if they visit the forum as if they don't show a custody battle or an angry Arjun having a different POV now , he has been lost as a character forever . We might as well prepare for it . They will show him forever as looking at Purvi with wonder struck eyes at her atrocious tyaags . PR will be one such saga of nonsensical destructive tyaags and men looking on with worshipping eyes . That is what is being planned anyways ...the truth that it's Purvi's baby coming out inadvertently and Arjun loving the mother of his baby even more and weeping at her tyaag ...they have absolutely no intention of giving him any independent POV . If that happens Arjun Kirloskar as we once saw is lost forever .

Originally posted by: pari87

Kools, 👏

What a brilliant take on Arjun! I just read Shyamala aunty's post on the Arjun that was and loved it immensely too. I was also always curious to know what you thought of Arjun because I was not on the forum at the time his character was introduced. I know Varsha di always mentions how much she loved his character before, but I didn't know you felt the same way too earlier! :) So we do have an 'Old Arjun Appreciation Group' on KC members as well :)

I loved that yu mentioned how you did not see him as arrogant and about the office decorum and professionalism that he came with. Also, this part was right to the T,

He was judged for his wealth and his Canadian upbringing . He was shown to lose each ARVI fight and 'learn' from Purvi . That the chote log lifestyle is the best , that India had the best sanskaars . I always felt that it was exactly the opposite . That it was she who could learn from him ...for he had a much much wider exposure than her . He had seen the cultures of many countries and he dealt with people having different lifestyles . If her exposure was limited , his was wider and she could have learnt a thing or two from him .

he serial has hyped on Purvi's love for her mother Archana . But i found Arjun's love for his dead mother Ashna more touching . Clearly , she was a part of the way his psyche developed. He was emotional about his mother and he gave hundred percent to a woman when he fell in love bcoz he clearly felt that woman would step in her void and make him immensely happy again by always being there for him . He was innocent that way . He really believed that .

I loved that you mentioned the stark contrast in the love of Purvi for Archana vs Arjun's for Ashana. I have always felt the same way. His love for his mother is way more real and emotional than what they supposedly show for Purvi and Archana. I have admired and loved him for the same. Shyamala aunty beautifully describes the scene with him and Ashna when he wants her guidance in how he feels. It was so touching and so real you could feel it.

I agree with how you have mentioned him having loved Purvi truly and unconditionally and how he took the flak for being transparent about his feelings. 100% right on what he should not have done and what needs to be done to his character to get it back on the fiery self that he used to be.

I saw Purvi being wrong a lot of times on what yu mention as office decorum and her incessant rambling about sanskaars and chote log. But I did love her in the beginning as she was a breath of fresh air after her mother Archana. I liked her being fiery (even if wrong) and independent and having a strong mind of her own. Somehow I understood the attraction Arjun had for this one and vice versa. But, they always showed how his love developed with genuine reason behind it but Purvi's sudden realization for her love towards him was always half-baked and unconvincing to me. I always somehow felt that she would not stand up to a test of love for him because of the suddenness of her love, compared to his emotional journey towards getting to love her. His developed over time and took time to realize it, but hers was only when he was leaving, there was no development that the CV's showed. I knew it that his love for her far exceeded anything she felt for him. RD's acting was top notch when he portrayed the anger in the beginning, but the gradual softening towards her, the building up of empathy and attraction at the same time, the emotional attachment and finally the frustration of her not understanding his feelings when he confessed and to the inner turmoil of not having had her love him back but at the same time understanding that he is not "God" to get everything he wants ( as Shyamala aunty mentioned in her post), he portrayed each emotion distinctively and made you feel what Arjun was feeling. It surpassed anything that Purvi portrayed or felt. He was convincing while she never was, for the love that they supposedly had.

Varsha di- on one count I do disagree is that he should have not fallen for Ovi's sister. Technically, he did not know of their relationship until much after having fallen for Purvi. Yes, his not confiding in OVi immediately and not being there for her was very very wrong but his falling fr Purvi and pursuing it despite of the sister status, in my opinion was not wrong.

Arjun was shown to never really realize the true extent of how much Ovi loved him. HE looked at her wanting to marry him in the same way that he wanted to or agreed to marry her. As a mutually beneficial relationship to the families, nothing more. And even if ge gauged that she did love him, he knew that the sister relationship had no past. Ovi and Purvi were as much of strangers to each other as he was to Sulo or Archu. He did not owe it to their relationship to step out of the way. Ovi had no feelings for Purvi and vice versa. They did share a mother, but even that was not something OVi cared about. Or clearly as shown, Archana gave two hoots about Ovi too. So he being a third person owed nothing to their family to mend this relatinship by turning away. He grew up with the wrong idea of Archana and Manav's relationship and prob never thought it would work out for Purvi and OVi to be happy sisters that got along and lived together. They were separate entities for him and he kept it that way. SO I feel it was 100% Purvi's part to decline this relationship since she was the one who wanted family above love and she wanted a relationship with her sister and father and rest D household. She should have stepped out and let it be.

But, one thing we ALL agree on is how wonderful and amazin he used to be to watch on screen and what needs to be done so as to redeem him and bring him back to character with a bang. :) CV's. hope you get some ideas from the more intellectually and sensibly evolved people on this forum as compared to what your brains are churning up right now :P

Originally posted by: Dabulls23

pari in response to Arjun not knowing abt Purvi being his fianc Ovi's sister when he fell for her I agree that he did not know.

But once he did find out as well purvi did too, the relation did need a re- consideration and maturity as it would ruin 2 families relationships & business partnership. Very immature and careless decision to carry on & not break up engagement with Ovi with due care. On top of that Sulo & Archana's encouraging that relationship was out of line.

I still believe it firmly that whether Ovi-purvi cared for each other or not, whether they were raised with ea other or not does not matter as ArMan's past 18 yrs of marriage and issues with their kids had a bad history plus marriage was on the Verge of breaking up - Divorce.

Though I totally agree with u abt it was more of Purvi's place not to carry it forward since she was the one wanting Aai Archu to have marriage & family for her as well as for herself too. Though Purvi only cared for the male species of Deshmukh family and not the twin sisters specially Ovi. purvi was very selective abt that. So I am sure you insert and where I am coming from.

Originally posted by: jdronamraju

And yes for some reason in indian films and soaps, kids grown up outside of India are always shown negative or on the losing side compared to the ones that grew up in India.. They prob need to catch on to the fact that most kids growing up outside do have their values, ethics and culture intact and have a definite sense of right and wrong and are individualistic and responsible. They do not have to be generalized as how they are shown. They do have good and bad qualities individually like kids in india too..Dont know when this will change, annoys me whnever they are shown in bad light without a reason and without justification, just not in PR, but everywhere. This is one of my fav gripes 😊