Kool's Commentary : Jan 11 PR - Page 55

Originally posted by: devashree

Mod. Note: Violation of Rule Number #3.

Just day before yesterday we left a warning to people calling names to Onir and Ovi. Name-calling will not be tolerated on this forum anymore in any form. The rules are same for everyone. Lets stop stereotyping fans and their likes. If anyone has problem, report the post. These things are not to be discussed in topic because it only leads to more problems in the forum.
-Pavitra Rishta Development Team.

Originally posted by: znursingh

OH PLEASE--GET REAL!!

You are VERY quick to post an officious "MOD.NOTE" if any poster criticizes a FICTIONAL character on an entertainment show.THAN the Dev Team says "No name calling will be tolerated on this forum ANYMORE IN ANY FORM" SO NO fictional character can be called a moron,a dumb blonde OR a peacock-YOU say...and so we obey!

YET you DON'T post a MOD.NOTE when a congenitally RUDE poster like Carribeanchica,who despite her claims to the contrary is quite unacquainted with English, grammar,spellings or manners governing public discourse, posts a priggish post insulting LIVE MEMBERS OF IF-THEN you don't feel compelled to put up a MOD NOTE? ???

NOT EVEN FOR AN APPEARANCE OF IMPARTIALITY????!!

EVER HEARD OF CAESAR'S WIFE,EXPECTED BEHAVIOR OF?!

Originally posted by: devashree_h

Well, you probably dont know that she was given warnings and after that she is not seen in the forum, she has stopped offending people. I take stricter action if members attack other members, because it is againt the IF rules and the DT does not tolerate member bashing.

Varsha Di had pm'ed me about it, even Kalapi. It was dealt with.

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Thanks Chitrashi, I will check it out🤗

Originally posted by: znursingh

My apologies!

OK,I did NOT know!

I withdraw my acerbic post!

And thank you for the action taken!

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Kalapi dearest,

Where is your memory failing, I would like to know? You had all your Vedic gods all right and tight, I just added a couple. I can see why you had top scores in History! Now be a good girl, and don't fish for compliments, however well deserved!😉

As for the new revisionist theory wrt the Aryan invasion of India, this is what is called the cultural transformation thesis. So the two rival theories can be summed up as follows:

1. The Aryan migration thesis that the Indus Valley groups calling themselves 'Aryans' (noble ones) migrated into the sub-continent and became the dominant cultural force. Hinduism, on this view, derives from their religion recorded in the Veda along with elements of the indigenous traditions they encountered.
2. The cultural transformation thesis that Aryan culture is a development of the Indus Valley culture. On this view there were no Aryan migrations (or invasion) and the Indus valley culture was an Aryan or vedic culture.

The second theory is of course strongly supported by those who are more comfortable with the idea that Hinduism is indigenous to the subcontinent and not an Indo-European mixture. It is buttressed by the fact that there does seem to be archaeological continuity in the subcontinent from the Neolithic period.

But far more interesting and conclusive is the latest research by a scientific team that has completely debunked the Aryan-Dravidian thesis (and by inference the Aryan invasion thesis as well), and proved that people all over India have the same genetic traits. Here is a link to a recent article about that from a prominent Indian newspaper.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_new-research-debunks-aryan-invasion-theory_1623744

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Kalapi dearest,

Where is your memory failing, I would like to know? You had all your Vedic gods all right and tight, I just added a couple. I can see why you had top scores in History! Now be a good girl, and don't fish for compliments, however well deserved!😉

Hahaha Shyamala darling thanks for the encouraging words, although I don't really blame my poor brains😆, how much can it hold 😉 – my poor brains 😛. Besides, I haven't really opened a history book in ages.

As for the new revisionist theory wrt the Aryan invasion of India, this is what is called the cultural transformation thesis. So the two rival theories can be summed up as follows:

The Aryan migration thesis that the Indus Valley groups calling themselves 'Aryans' (noble ones) migrated into the sub-continent and became the dominant cultural force. Hinduism, on this view, derives from their religion recorded in the Veda along with elements of the indigenous traditions they encountered.
1. The cultural transformation thesis that Aryan culture is a development of the Indus Valley culture. On this view there were no Aryan migrations (or invasion) and the Indus valley culture was an Aryan or vedic culture.

The second theory is of course strongly supported by those who are more comfortable with the idea that Hinduism is indigenous to the subcontinent and not an Indo-European mixture. It is buttressed by the fact that there does seem to be archaeological continuity in the subcontinent from the Neolithic period.

But far more interesting and conclusive is the latest research by a scientific team that has completely debunked the Aryan-Dravidian thesis (and by inference the Aryan invasion thesis as well), and proved that people all over India have the same genetic traits. Here is a link to a recent article about that from a prominent Indian newspaper.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_new-research-debunks-aryan-invasion-theory_1623744

I have also had it sent to you by e-mail.

Thanks so much for the link, since this subject is very close to my heart. I haven't had a chance to check out the link yet, but will do so this week. Anyway, I guess the article has finally come out openly stating that there isn't a Dravidian or an Aryan population as was the 'normal' belief of historians. But, the truth is that the article (from your summary) hasn't really come out with anything new.

For atleast the last 2 decades or so now, most researches in India and as well as abroad have come to similar conclusions using various types of DNA markers (like Y chromosomal, autosomal and mitochondrial). Most studies could never really find any 'marked' differences between the 'normal' Northern and Southern Indian populations. I say 'normal' for some tribes in India are truly different from the rest of the Indian population, as far as I know – although these differences genetically can be attributed to reasons such as total isolation from other populations. In the past, when studies failed to show any differences, the failure was commonly and mostly attributed to smaller sample size, or because of using the wrong DNA marker on a particular population or the mere fact that since the Northern and Southern Indian populations existed closely together (leading to possible inbreeding over the ages) 'difference' that could have existed, disappeared over time.

As for the 'human' migration in pre-historic times, I think it is very much accepted that humans migrated "out of Africa" through Europe into Eastern Asia and into the Americas. The Indian population shows marked similarity with the Caucasian Population and to some degree with the Japanese population also. Funny and interesting tidbits, someone asked me long long ago, then why is the Skin color so different between Caucasians and Indians – well, just show how strong an influence environment is on our genes –a classic example being Industrial melanism of moths in 19 century England). Anyway, I guess, finally some researchers are taking a stronger stand and are challenging a popular belief. Good. Thanks again Shymala, so much for the link.

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Originally posted by: Kalapi