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Posted: 12 years ago
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I don't get it. So many people are saying 'Arvi never meant to do it, it was unintentional' 'Purvi gave into Arjun's advances'
Purvi has a mind of her own. If you don't want sex before marriage then the advances of a guy shouldn't change that no matter how turned on you feel! And of course it was intentional. Purvi was not hypnotised! It was fully intentional. She wanted sex so she had sex!
At the point of penetration, Purvi made a commitment to Arjun and vice versa, Arjun made a commitment to Purvi.
Both made promises of everlasting love and commitment which were broken within the space of a minute so what was the point of making them in the first place if your love isn't strong enough to survive the earthquake and the ensuing tremor?
Ovi is but a small girl, she didn't wrestle them to the ground to force them to give up on each other.
Purvi wants acceptance but she was already accepted by the D Clan. Was she too blind enough to see this? The D clan love her the same as they love Teju and Ovi, they gave her the same place in their hearts. Accepted her into their home. Just think of that beautiful hug that Manav gave to both Ovi and Purvi.
Arvi should have married and let Ovi cope with her situation in her own way.
Now it's complicated. Purvi's acceptance by her family will be thrown out of the window.
How can she parade around PREGNANT in front of Arjun without telling him that he is the father?
Today is a sad sad day for me because I really thought Purvi was much more better than this.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: arshi_arvi



Haven't you been watching PR. She sacrificed her love and baby's father for her mother's happiness. So you are saying Purvi should have been selfish and care a damn about her mother. Don't blame Purvi, blame that psyco witch who took Purvi's happiness and now her baby's as well. Arvi's baby will never get his/her real father's love because of that psyco kamini.



I Agree U
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: mjht_ArVi4ever

loved ur post tich

Yup there is a difference between love an lust n what arvi had for each other was love ... had t been lust then they wud have done it the night they were in a room in that hotel in Pune
today's was just chemistrilicious arvilicious epi n just loved it to the core.

as for "planned" and "unplanned", was not at all a concern for them coz they were any way going to get married and were gonna do it ... n who carries protection with them when they go shopping or whatever.
ArVi's consummation was not planned and they were not worried about the illegitimate issues coz they were with the thought that its their marriage after few days, what happened at the cliff n the marriage fiasco was not foreseen by them ki they wud think "ki chalo we do it today then use protection coz we r not gonna get married n then do the tyaag"
Just my opinion



This is true that your post really describe ARVI that incident.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manoshono

adity! Very beautiful written post 👏

In every religion, there is always forgiveness for every sin, if you truly regrets it for. People should really see a logic here rather than having multiple debates of who is right and who is wrong. I know defending ones decision is physiological behavior. But having to look at different aspects, how to make it right is crucial as well.

Everyone does sins, because in the end we all are human that can go wrong at times. Same as arjun and purvi. They have committed a sin by consummating before marriage, because they didn't know that the circumstances would turn them that way. And now apart from that mistake, we know that they are regretting, suffering, at least purvi is. Arjun we have seen him suffer enough. But in the end if they regret and ask for forgiveness, then they should be forgiven.




Manoshono thank U for your marvelous post. This is true that In every religion, there is always forgiveness for every sin, if you truly regrets it for.

Yes Everyone does sins, because in the end we all are human that can go wrong at times. Same as arjun and purvi. They have committed a sin by consummating before marriage, because they didn't know that the circumstances would turn them that way.

Now in the end if ARVI regret and ask for forgiveness, then they should be forgiven.

But only say that
apart from that a beautiful story ruined by the extra ordinary genius brain of Ekta's CV's. That why now Anti Arvian are bashing ARVI character. This too much painful for ARVIAN. That no need.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: aditty

"... He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." ( The Bible - John chp. 8 vs. 1-11).
The Lord Jesus spoke these words to the scribes and the pharisees (the accusers) who wanted to stone a woman to death as commanded by the law of Moses, because she was caught in the act of adultery.After saying this, Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground. The accusers upon hearing this and being convicted by their own conscience, left one by one- until Jesus was left alone with the accused woman standing in the midst.
When Jesus saw that all the accusers had left, he asked the woman- "woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?" She responded- "No man, Lord". Jesus then said to her "Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more."
Undoubtedly, Arjun and Purvi committed a sin and did wrong by engaging in pre-marital sex/fornication BUT who are we to condemn them!! Don't they deserve forgiveness?? Which one of us have never committed a wrong or a sin in the eyes of our own religion or society?? Every sin is a sin and every sin carries different consequences BUT my Bible teaches that every sin deserves forgiveness and restoration!! When a person committs a sin in the church and it is made public (be it fornication or otherwise)- my Christian principles teaches me that that person ought to be forgiven and ought to be restored to the church's assembly and to society in general !! So who am I not to forgive Arjun and Purvi for the sin/wrong that they have committed??
In my view, Arjun and Purvi are no less decent and respectful persons for the wrong they have done!! I just hope that they would've learned from their actions and try not to commit similar wrongs in the future!! In the Bible' King David was said to be a man after God's own heart"- yet what did he do?? He not only committed adultery with Bathsheba BUT he also had her husband murdered to cover up his sin!! But despite this- the Bible still said that he was a man after God's own heart!! David did repent of his sin and he did suffer the grievous consequences BUT he continued to serve God in spirit and truth thereafter!! The Bible is full of examples of righteous persons who have committed sins BUT the Bible also shows us that forgiveness and restoration is a MUST !!
So in concludsion- I would like to iusse this caution- Let us be careful not to be too quick to judge, lest we too may reap the same judgement!! Let us be forgiving and let us sympathize with those who have 'fallen' in our eyes" (be it in reel or real life) lest we too, when we seek forgiveness for our wrongs, may not be able to find it!!
PEACE!!



After many days Aditty you post something. Thank U for your superb post.

Thank U for you following comment:

Let us be careful not to be too quick to judge, lest we too may reap the same judgement!! Let us be forgiving and let us sympathize with those who have 'fallen' in our eyes" (be it in reel or real life) lest we too, when we seek forgiveness for our wrongs, may not be able to find it!!

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Posted: 12 years ago
#66

This topic my view that ARVI's this incident is love not lust.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I say Love - Lust from Arjun...God knows what was it from Purvi...
But the end result is not Pure or Pavitra at all..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ambolove

I don't get it. So many people are saying 'Arvi never meant to do it, it was unintentional' 'Purvi gave into Arjun's advances'

Purvi has a mind of her own. If you don't want sex before marriage then the advances of a guy shouldn't change that no matter how turned on you feel! And of course it was intentional. Purvi was not hypnotised! It was fully intentional. She wanted sex so she had sex!
At the point of penetration, Purvi made a commitment to Arjun and vice versa, Arjun made a commitment to Purvi.
Both made promises of everlasting love and commitment which were broken within the space of a minute so what was the point of making them in the first place if your love isn't strong enough to survive the earthquake and the ensuing tremor?
Ovi is but a small girl, she didn't wrestle them to the ground to force them to give up on each other.
Purvi wants acceptance but she was already accepted by the D Clan. Was she too blind enough to see this? The D clan love her the same as they love Teju and Ovi, they gave her the same place in their hearts. Accepted her into their home. Just think of that beautiful hug that Manav gave to both Ovi and Purvi.
Arvi should have married and let Ovi cope with her situation in her own way.
Now it's complicated. Purvi's acceptance by her family will be thrown out of the window.
How can she parade around PREGNANT in front of Arjun without telling him that he is the father?
Today is a sad sad day for me because I really thought Purvi was much more better than this.

You are right, it was consented sex...otherwise, if there wasn't a consent in the act..then it amounts to rape...so, I agree, Arvi did what they wanted to do...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: AquaNymph


Guys, even i'm strictly against pre-marital consummation but if a relationship is (or rather i'd say was) like ArVi where their love was true, where Arjun left his everything for purvi, where he risked his life and took bullets for her, where they were getting married in few days then there is nothing called apavitra about it. (at that time). So chill, and just enjoy the much awaited scene and the new twist in the story. In real life one can never have a relationship like onscreen ArVi, that's why it's prohibited in our society. But still this is the generation of live-in relationships. Anyways all that i can say is one shouldnt have problem with the thing that they had taken their relationship to a new level since what they had is true love not lust or something like what Punni and Malik had. Nor Arjun and purvi were any teenagers from Channel V's Gumrah where they wanted to 'try' something new with high teenage hormones. There is a clear difference isnt it?




just because arjun leave everything for purvi, risk his life for her, took a bullet for her..then their pre-marital consummation is pavitra?

then if i do the same as what arjun did for a girl..and i make a big board in front of my door written:
I have slept with my wife before marriage and it is pavitra and not wrong because i left everything for her, risk my life for her and took a bullet for her'.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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My dear Sanjana,

I never thought to hear a voice of so much wisdom amidst the cacophony in this forum! 👏

I agree that it is meaningless,, and pointless for us to get so het up- as I myself, who, at my age, should have known better, have done for 6 months in all till now - about a bunch of virtual characters with feet of clay, whose shenanigans, and the resulting TRPs, have benefited no one but Ekta Kapoor.

Who says that she is a fool? She is the cleverest manipulator I have seen in a while, though it undoubtedly helps that she has to deal with such a multitude of over-emotional viewers.

Well, better late than never, and I am now going to rest in peace from now on, after bidding adieu to a forum where, if nothing else, I have made a bunch of delightful friends of all ages. That is the only thing that makes my folly of the last 8 months worthwhile (2 of which were spent off forum, whence the earlier count of 6 months - not like Purvi's baby!)

Once again, congratulations on a totally logical and irrefutable analysis, more of us than of PR.
That again is as it should be, because it is we who keep this show going.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: SanjanaBw

Isn't this exactly what the creators/Ekta wanted? Long threads, vehement arguments, polarized opinions, party divide, increase page hits and all result in TRPS😊. Amazing how we fall into the trap every time.


Just my point of view, us as audience have always been forgiving. Manav and Archana mistrusted each other, not for 18 hours, or 18 days... for 18 years. We were OK with that in the end because it is just a show. In real life no two people who love each other just walk away like that.
Archana didn't see her kids for 18 years for no fault of the kids. I never watched the show that diligently so I am not sure what happened. But certainly doesn't hold any resemblance to real life. We moved on because it is just a show. I am surprised that her kids don't hold that against her. If it was my mother, I can't imagine living under the same roof no matter who is at fault because a lot happens in a girls life in 18 years. Her kids forgive, forget and move on. I guess it is just a show.

Savita abused her daughter-in-law mentally, psychologically. Lied, cheated, accused and what not. Any person with any level of self respect will not put up with that crap . I am not sure if us audience ever stood up against that and said enough is enough. We watched and ignored or came to terms.

Sachin and Shravani had a kid before wedlock. We were OK with that. Shravani left her kid for god knows what. I can't imagine how all these mothers walk away from their kids like that. But then she was just a side character in the show. Varsha had an affair with a married man, walked aways from her wonderful husband who I think was really cute (:-). Kidnapped a kid, lived with a goon without marriage. Not sure if we opposed that on moral grounds this strongly.

Vandu's husband Ajit abused her, harassed her and threatened her before and after marriage. Not sure how much of that was opposed. Vinod and Manju manipulated elders. God knows where Manohar is. May his soul rest in peace. We moved on.

For those who have watched the show more diligently I am sure they could find a lot more and may be this is the tip of the iceberg.

We seem to be OK with everything that is morally wrong. Why such a commotion now or may be this will pass too? Given all the history and forgiveness, in the end if Arjun marries/lives with Punni, Purvi, Ovi, Soham does it really matter? Nothing else seemed to matter in our cultured society.

Just my POV.
Cheers.

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