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Posted: 12 years ago
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I agree with you that he is terminally stupid .

No one with brains will become the puppet of a girl who uses terms like 'love' and 'tests of love' to get a man twisted around her finger to do her bidding .

I would not describe her as terminally stupid though . She has a very clear vision of what she wants . And she knows how to get it . She does not hesitate to use lovelorn fools like him in the bargain .

He has given her so much value and hence so much power .

The blunt truth is he is the prize catch in an Indian marraige market , not she . Educated abroad , rich , handsome , no responsibilities of siblings , mother dead and the only son of a rich , broad minded tycoon ...he doesn't know his own value and has given that girl far more value than she deserves.

Girls will throw themselves at his feet if he stands in the marraige market . She on the other hand will only get a guy like Vinay . Now that she has a rich foster dad , things might be a little better . Btw i find it unfair of the CVs that Manav's daughter Teju gets a guy living in a chawl with just a farsan mart that he owns while this girl lands the prince .

I maintain that the terminally stupid do very negative things in the end while the terminally clever stay cloaked with martyrdom after doing exactly what they wanted to in life .

I know one such terminally stupid character in this serial who did a false court case against her innocent husand . That stupid person could have sent a perfectly innocent man to jail .

Stupidity can be no excuse for doing extremely negative actions .

Macbeth killed but the brain was Lady Macbeth's .

Purvi is like a vamp to me ...not like a heroine . She used and abused him and she is unaffected by his suffering where he repeatedly tells her he cannot bear to be in this marraige . She can easily say ok , we made a mistake , file for divorce , we will bear the repercussions together ...the slaps , the accusations , the alienation ...but she doesn't .

Inspite of seeing his tadap like a fish fighting for life out of water , she tells him to stay in this marraige for life .

And thats why i say ...he may divorce Ovi if he finds the marraige that stifling but he must never go back to this girl Purvi .

I know that will never happen . But i say this .

She has ruined him . He is too much in the babbling besotted stage to even realize that .

This serial equated the power of women over men and getting them to do any nonsense as 'love'.

Never heard such a faltu definition of love in my life .

Both Archana and Purvi need to be slapped publicly by Manav and Arjun but this will neer happen in this serial . I heard that she slaps Soham for a fourth time in this serial . Forget slaps , nobody even catches her hand .

Purvi needs to be told exactly what she is ...all that praise from Fahrukh bhai is a load of Hooey .

The posts finding them negative have slowly started trickling in .

Someone said that she already has his 'love' that she can jump in his car and go off in the sunset , she doesn't need to resort to lauki ka halva tactics .

Thought about it . Now since i think differently, I gather that the bottomline is that she already has him on a string and at her feet why would she do that .

My challenge is she should . And another challenge is to CVs to show real gossip in Indian society that dear Arjun Purvi and their divine love will have to face after this .




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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thank u jyoti vilasini and anyone else .

Yes there is laxmi poojan . But the get together will be this weekend .😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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So, how long one should consider and forgive him of his terminal follies? Who should be the ones forgiving him? At what point does his folly makes him not only stupid, but people starts to pull him up for his wrongdoings to all people and relationship involved as well as to his Dad? Doesn't he have responsibilities towards his Dad, who is getting no younger?

Tell, me in your experience, how long Society overlooks such follies? Do they really have that humongous heart and consider it his follies and overlook ever ? No in the Chawl environment portrayed so far. The tongues starts rolling the moment he married Ovi and any smallest of shortcomings are bombardment with the worst comments. And it doesn't only happen in India. Think of the Western Countries and other communities, they might be discrete, but it is still there and is extremely vicious...it is only Cv's way of dangling Arvi that this hasn't happened...the Chawl Savita lives isn't that kind hearted...Cvs are rather kind-hearted here, in my humble opinion...

Archana, the mom, I find her the most unbelievable. She should be the one to jump on protecting Purvi's reputation, in my humble opinion, because, in this situations, most often than not, the girls gets burnt more than the men...I find that this mother's instinct never for once wonder when Ovi came to her with her doubts. Most mom, could at that point take precautionary measures, and safeguard the girl's reputation...at this point of time, it isn't about if Purvi's trustworthiness (which Is Archana's stand), but rather, the reputation of Deshmukhs and Kirloskar (and this is also universal) is at stake.

Now, tell me another thing dear, how would that rumor spread (by the chawl dwellers), what will make it the spiciest glossip...wouldn't it be ...Saali/Jeeju is continuing their relationship under the umbrella of a new relationship...

Let me tell you who I am in this serial Shyamala darling. I am no fan, nothing really attracts me to this show these days. So, when I comment, I simply state what I see as an outsider. I am sure, members feel I am biased. Biased towards whom...funny, I am not being paid for commenting or anything. I comment as I have been brought up, as I have seen love affairs play out in real life, from my personal perspective and expectations...

Now someone commented that Arjun might never get rid of Purvi from his system. I agree he might never be able to. Then what, is this the path forward for him?? I have demanded him to divorce from the first day after the marriage, but I don't see him going for one? Rather continuing his farce. Btw, I don't see the reason why Ovi should divorce him, she wanted him, but he doesn't want her. So, the onus falls on him, in my opinion.

Now , as for his running after Purvi. Well, what could a chawl dweller say, if he happens to be around, When Arjun personally drops to ask about Soham, when wife is also related to the said person? So, now this same chawl dweller, say, if he catches him stop by and talking to Purvi on the streets, atleast by now 3 to 4 times. Or say, another chawl dweller waiting for that mumbai bus sees, that Arjun's car stops and Purvi gets up, without Ovi's presence. Am not sure, but thes echawl ppl will not think it as all innocent unrelated incidents or simple follies...but..err...will definitely consider these follies of youth...and in this royal mess, whose virtue is at stake, the girl's. This is how I see it...btw, these does serve for spicy chawl gossip...

Actually in these instances, the aged has the most keen eyes and will absolutely be candid stopping the girls right there and then...but Sulo, with age, has turned out to be the eternal romantics...so this mess is continuing...not to mention the fact that Kirsloskars do not have an elder women in their household...

As for Arjun being Purvi's friend, is that even possible under the current circumstance...I am not sure, not any more...it will be always awkward, again my opinion.

As for his 2 timing behavious...what else do you call that behaviour that happens continuously and over time, I am not sure. Sure, he might have all the best intentions at heart. But at some points, just having the best intentions at heart just doesn't cut it, my dear. At some point those intentions are not considered best and are questionable. At some point, these intentions affect others negatively. He has not only lead Ovi on, while continuing his relationship with Purvi pre-marriage, he never told Purvi that there is a girl waiting for him back in Canada. Nor, does he come clean now with all his neat accidental meets with Purvi to Ovi his wife, nor does he convey to Ovi, gis real feelings towards her or his occasional outburst towards Purvi... how long we say, it isn't his 2 timing character, but rather good intentions...how long dear, how long? Btw, what are these small lapses to you (that does show a pattern )?

Anyway, I hardly expect anyone to agree with me, but these are my opinion as an audience of the show.

Btw, Shyamala dearest and all readers of this thread - A very happy Diwali to all!!!!

Originally posted by: sashashyam

No, no, Kalapi my dear, I am not going to let you be so harsh to my poor boy. He is not a two timer and he never was one, and moreover, as I have written to you in the past (with which of course you did not agree!) he was always more sinned against than sinning.

The worst one can accuse him of - and as you must have seen, and not just here, I do that quite liberally! - is terminal folly. For want of a little spine and stubbornness at a crucial moment, he has let Purvi demolish his life, and now he is rebelling against it, to cite bee, like a wonky on-off switch, but with the default setting at off.So, while I have often wanted to plant a solid kick in his backside, it would not be with spiked boots!😉

No, my dear, he is not running after Purvi in that fashion at all; he is no Casanova, and he simply is not made that way. I am sure that there are any number of men like that, but he is not one of them. Remember how properly he behaves with Purvi even when they are alone? He loves her, he does not merely desire her. It is because of this that my mother was lambasting Arjun only for what she saw as his folly in letting Purvi push him into this situation; she did not suspect him of any moral failings. So please do absolve him of this jeeju-saali kind of goings on, there is a good girl!

Arjun's problem is that he simply cannot get Purvi out of his system, and since they are all in the same place and the same family to boot, he does not even have the advantage of having her out of his sight. He thinks, completely wrongly, but still he thinks that he will feel better if she would only talk to him from time to time and let him still be her friend.

But of course that would never work, and not just because people would eye it negatively. The only way to get over a past relationship, especially such a deep love, is to cut it off totally and the person concerned with it, and if possible manage not to meet him or her again.

If you cannot do this, then work to see how you can go back to him or her. Whence the 2 options that I have outlined for Arjun. Of course the CVs will not choose either, that is for sure!

I agree with you about the folly of equating sacrifice and love. I am of the opinion that most sacrifices are counter-productive, and do nothing much more than boosting the ego of the sacrificer. The sacrifice (in this instance, Arjun) is normally never consulted.

You know, my dear,the ancient Greeks used to sacrifice white bulls to Zeus, the King of the Gods (the Roman equivalent being Jupiter), but the bull had to go willingly to the sacrifice, otherwise Zeus would not accept it. I do not know how they managed it in practice, perhaps they drugged the bulls. Anyhow, the PR CVs obviously have no time for such niceties!

No, I have not seen those episodes of DKDM online; my mother does not like looking at things on a laptop, she wants the 50 inch TV screen, and I do not know how to persuade her. But yesterday, they showed a glimpse of Lord Shiva in his full, dazzling wedding regalia, and she was delighted, as I was too, so maybe she will come around soon!

Here is wishing you all, once again, a very happy, safe (though this is really more for India, as the setting off of firecrackers is heavily regulated in the US) and fun-filled Deepavali next week.

Shyamala


Edited by Kalapi - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#54
Oh my dear Shyamala, not sure why my fonts are huge on the other post, but whenever, i try editing, it is messing up...sorry
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Kalapi I agree with your post completely...Great post...
As I am very busy this wknd with cooking for diwali really cant write long post here...But you have pretty much summed it up what I would have..
I liked Arjun from the get go and used to support him until he got himself fall in love with sister of his Fiance and not handling it right...He defo is two timing both the girls & after marriage cheating on his wife emotionally...There is no two way abt it...I do not have any daughter and am a mother of 2 sons but do know how a girl feels..I am someone's daughter, my DILs are some one's daughters...I do not condone this behavior at all..
All 3 are adults...They wanted to play this silly game of marriage...18, 19 and 22 is not the age to be married but they decided to do so...Now be the adult and live by your stupid or right decision...Marriage is not a childs play or a game...I cant give an excuse that it is stupidity for ever...Some day it has to be called something more than stupidity IMHO.
I knew what was to happen to an assertive-confident Arjun or whoever that man be after they got involved with any Karanjkar women...What happened to Manav, Satish and now Arjun..Rest is history..
Kools also loved your post...Very good points...I would love to see Mother daughter combo Archana and Purvi be slapped by someone in public...
Shyamala dear and rest Best wishes for coming Diwali and a Happy new year to all on this topic and section...God bless!!!
Edited by Dabulls23 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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No, Kools, negativity of the kind we are talking about needs intent as well as results. Arjun never intends to hurt anyone, and in fact pussyfoots so much because of this that he creates even more complications. A good example of this is when he postponed telling Ovi about Purvi because of Ovi's legal problems at that time.

This is not to say that a stupid person cannot be dangerous in the sense of creating all round havoc. He/she can, and here Arjun does, if only passively in the worst case.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Ok heres my first instalment


You said that Arjun is not negative , just terminally stupid .

But don't the terminally stupid do negative actions in the end .

Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Don't worry, my dear, I am just fine with this too. I will reply to your latest in the afternoon,and we shall have round 2, all in good fun! This said, I think we are both wasting our time here; we would be much better off with the Ramayana forum, where at least the story cannot go to the dogs like this one!

Warmest regards.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Oh my dear Shyamala, not sure why my fonts are huge on the other post, but whenever, i try editing, it is messing up...sorry

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Posted: 12 years ago
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My dear Pancham,

Have you ever heard the Russian folk tale about the Axe Porridge? I expect not, so I will summarise it here for you (there is a reason for this drastically off topic exercise, so have patience!)

There was this demobbed Russian soldier in the 19th century, making his way home across that vast country on foot, and one evening, cold and bone weary, he found himself outside a little cottage on the outskirts of a village, and sought shelter there for the night, out of the bitter cold.

The bent old woman who opened the door let in him somewhat reluctantly, and made haste to inform him that unfortunately there was nothing to eat in the house, and no wood for a fire either.. The soldier made light of this, and added, Old mother, if you happen to have an old axe, I can tell you how to make porridge with it.

The old woman was very curious and keen to learn this very economical recipe, and so she cleaned her only axe, and as per the soldier's instructions, she lit a fire (don't ask where the wood came from now; and you may be sure the soldier did not ask either!) and they hung a pot of water above it and stuck the axe into it. The water was soon boiling merrily, and after 5 minutes, the soldier dipped a ladle into it, tasted the contents, and said Well, old mother, it is coming along nicely, but some oats would make it even better.

Out came a fair sized bin full of oats, the contents of which were liberally added to the pot with the axe. A few more minutes passed, the soldier tasted the mixture again, and pronounced that it was nice, but a little milk would make it even better. So a jug of milk was produced and added to the pot .

Five more minutes, and he suggested some sugar and a handful of walnuts, both of which promptly made their appearance.

The soldier stirred the pot vigorously for another 10 minutes and finally pronounced the axe porridge as done. They both ate it with relish. The old woman found it delicious and thanked him profusely for having taught her to make such wonderful porridge with just an old axe.

After reading your funny post (@blue is priceless!), I felt exactly the same about PR and the lauki!😉

No, my dear, I am not giving Arjun-Purvi any more chances (Arvi reminds me of the vegetable). It will never be the same for me, and both of them only irritate me now. If you have the time and the patience for it, please look up my Oct 30 post, PR these days: A letter to my forum friends, which is at the address below, and says pretty much all I wanted to say. This one ( the original post at the head of this thread) was an impulse post, and very likely the impulse was a wrong one. One should never look back, and in PR there is nothing to look forward to either.(In contrast, this post to you, also an impulse post, is the result of a good impulse!)
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3263561

This is not to say that there would be nothing for you to look forward to. In fact, I see that there is a good bit, and of course I would like you young people to enjoy yourselves! For me, alas, it is not so much the end of innocence, as the beginning, middle and end of incredible stupidity on the one hand and sustained manipulation on the other. I cannot stand either.

Take care, and have a very nice Deepavali next week.

Shyamala (Aunty if you like; probably more age appropriate!)

PS: It is interesting that you remember my post on that pre-confession mandir scene.That was the first time I saw how good an actor Rithwik was. The lines were also superb. He can still act, but the tale has gone to the dogs and he is not an alchemist to turn lead into gold.


Originally posted by: Pancham101


Ah but Shyamalaji, if I may call you that,

With the right ingredients - khoya, cashews, ghee ( read- actors, script) ;
The correct execution of the recipe (read - the writers, directors and to a certain extent the actors again);
And a certain amount of faith at the start of preparation that the end product is going to be palatable (read - viewers confidence?);

Even something as mundane as Lauki can hit a high note and be delicious (ArVilicious) for some of us😆

I don't know whether you have given ArVi another chance since the fiasco...the Arjun who you absolutely loved in that Mandir scene pre-confession...still makes an appearance every chance he is given. When he gets mad at Purvi for taking to the road at an unGodly hour and Purvi's responses are a treat to watch. The Pre Lauki scene and of course the Lauki scene are again, in my opinion, highlights of the past few days. And how could I forget the dinner plate episode at the wedding. Their relationship has undergone the 'End of innocence' and they both are portraying this metamorphosis pretty good.

Not to beat a dead horse, but the Lauki Farmers Association has Pavitra Rishta to thank after the Baba Ramdev for the spike in sales.

I am truly honored that you responded to me personally. This is definitely a takeaway from you.



Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Pancham,

It was probably because, as you say, it is a tasteles and characterless vegetable, exactly like PR itself these days, and needs an awful lot of sugar to make it even barely palatable!😉 A very good fit, would you not say?

Shyamala B.Cowsik




Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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This is what i feel about the gossip mongers .

They appear most unrealistically like parrots only to glorify Archana .

In the early days of the serial , they sometimes criticised the odd conditions like Shravani's pregnancy and the threesomes ...like Vaishu staying with ARMAN in the kholi days etc . But with their criticisms , Archana shone . [ Like the blazing hot sun .] She came to defend either the holy relation between Manav and Vaishu or Manav and Shravni.

Then slowly they turned out occasionally in groups only to criticize Savita and to praise and praise Archana .

The gossip mongers were as unreal as the serial .

If they wanna show real gossip

they should show caustic comments on the fact that a woman did a case on her husband

the relation between Arjun Purvi [ i find it highly unreal that not a single chawl wallah has not seen them talking on the roads and noticed Arjun's animated expressions . I also find it very odd that the sudden breaking of the Arvi marraige invited no raised eyebrows and no gossip . ]

The comments are never on Purvi and Archana . Instead we see Fahrukh bhai surfacing and heaping loads of praise on her .

We see them surfacing and saying Archana is a devi . They only taunt Savita .

Very very unreal .

Real gossip would have commented on the fact that Archana was favouring one daughter's marraige and going against her other daughter

That such a damad had been given the thumbs up in whom both the daughters were heavily involved

That Sulochana had accepted huge sums of money from damad for her house

That Damodar drank irresponsibly and contributed nothing to the house

That nobody spoke to an aged mother on ganpati day and that aarti was done like a widower by Damodar when the mother was very much alive ...that only the wife's maikawallahs were invited and nobody from Manav's side was ...neither his mother nor sister

That Archana was paying no attention to Purvi ...neither did the latter have a job nor a marraige .

They don't show real Indian society gosiip . They show unreal parrot like talk like DK calling Archana a devi when she almost shut him down .
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Kool, that is what I been trying to say all along. Breaking of Purvi abd Arjun marriage could in reality start a huge gossip among all Chawl dwellers, that could put Aai is a super defensive position that any such even references made by FB could be extremely unwelcomed by Aai Archana herself, who could run to shut FB's mouth, even before he could get along in his long speech of glorifying the unmarried jodi...nothing happened...unbelievable that the CVs showed no gossip around Arjun and Ovi's marriage...unrealistic and unbelievable storyline so far...then no member could suggest purvi's jumping into Arjun's car...that is so not done, with Ovi being present there...can you even imagine MAnav's, Dk's and Archana's position is all the mess...

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