Bigg Boss 19: Daily Discussion Thread - 23rd Oct 2025
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So, how long one should consider and forgive him of his terminal follies? Who should be the ones forgiving him? At what point does his folly makes him not only stupid, but people starts to pull him up for his wrongdoings to all people and relationship involved as well as to his Dad? Doesn't he have responsibilities towards his Dad, who is getting no younger?
Tell, me in your experience, how long Society overlooks such follies? Do they really have that humongous heart and consider it his follies and overlook ever ? No in the Chawl environment portrayed so far. The tongues starts rolling the moment he married Ovi and any smallest of shortcomings are bombardment with the worst comments. And it doesn't only happen in India. Think of the Western Countries and other communities, they might be discrete, but it is still there and is extremely vicious...it is only Cv's way of dangling Arvi that this hasn't happened...the Chawl Savita lives isn't that kind hearted...Cvs are rather kind-hearted here, in my humble opinion...
Archana, the mom, I find her the most unbelievable. She should be the one to jump on protecting Purvi's reputation, in my humble opinion, because, in this situations, most often than not, the girls gets burnt more than the men...I find that this mother's instinct never for once wonder when Ovi came to her with her doubts. Most mom, could at that point take precautionary measures, and safeguard the girl's reputation...at this point of time, it isn't about if Purvi's trustworthiness (which Is Archana's stand), but rather, the reputation of Deshmukhs and Kirloskar (and this is also universal) is at stake.
Now, tell me another thing dear, how would that rumor spread (by the chawl dwellers), what will make it the spiciest glossip...wouldn't it be ...Saali/Jeeju is continuing their relationship under the umbrella of a new relationship...
Let me tell you who I am in this serial Shyamala darling. I am no fan, nothing really attracts me to this show these days. So, when I comment, I simply state what I see as an outsider. I am sure, members feel I am biased. Biased towards whom...funny, I am not being paid for commenting or anything. I comment as I have been brought up, as I have seen love affairs play out in real life, from my personal perspective and expectations...
Now someone commented that Arjun might never get rid of Purvi from his system. I agree he might never be able to. Then what, is this the path forward for him?? I have demanded him to divorce from the first day after the marriage, but I don't see him going for one? Rather continuing his farce. Btw, I don't see the reason why Ovi should divorce him, she wanted him, but he doesn't want her. So, the onus falls on him, in my opinion.
Now , as for his running after Purvi. Well, what could a chawl dweller say, if he happens to be around, When Arjun personally drops to ask about Soham, when wife is also related to the said person? So, now this same chawl dweller, say, if he catches him stop by and talking to Purvi on the streets, atleast by now 3 to 4 times. Or say, another chawl dweller waiting for that mumbai bus sees, that Arjun's car stops and Purvi gets up, without Ovi's presence. Am not sure, but thes echawl ppl will not think it as all innocent unrelated incidents or simple follies...but..err...will definitely consider these follies of youth...and in this royal mess, whose virtue is at stake, the girl's. This is how I see it...btw, these does serve for spicy chawl gossip...
Actually in these instances, the aged has the most keen eyes and will absolutely be candid stopping the girls right there and then...but Sulo, with age, has turned out to be the eternal romantics...so this mess is continuing...not to mention the fact that Kirsloskars do not have an elder women in their household...
As for Arjun being Purvi's friend, is that even possible under the current circumstance...I am not sure, not any more...it will be always awkward, again my opinion.
As for his 2 timing behavious...what else do you call that behaviour that happens continuously and over time, I am not sure. Sure, he might have all the best intentions at heart. But at some points, just having the best intentions at heart just doesn't cut it, my dear. At some point those intentions are not considered best and are questionable. At some point, these intentions affect others negatively. He has not only lead Ovi on, while continuing his relationship with Purvi pre-marriage, he never told Purvi that there is a girl waiting for him back in Canada. Nor, does he come clean now with all his neat accidental meets with Purvi to Ovi his wife, nor does he convey to Ovi, gis real feelings towards her or his occasional outburst towards Purvi... how long we say, it isn't his 2 timing character, but rather good intentions...how long dear, how long? Btw, what are these small lapses to you (that does show a pattern )?
Anyway, I hardly expect anyone to agree with me, but these are my opinion as an audience of the show.
Btw, Shyamala dearest and all readers of this thread - A very happy Diwali to all!!!!
Originally posted by: sashashyam
No, no, Kalapi my dear, I am not going to let you be so harsh to my poor boy. He is not a two timer and he never was one, and moreover, as I have written to you in the past (with which of course you did not agree!) he was always more sinned against than sinning.
The worst one can accuse him of - and as you must have seen, and not just here, I do that quite liberally! - is terminal folly. For want of a little spine and stubbornness at a crucial moment, he has let Purvi demolish his life, and now he is rebelling against it, to cite bee, like a wonky on-off switch, but with the default setting at off.So, while I have often wanted to plant a solid kick in his backside, it would not be with spiked boots!😉
No, my dear, he is not running after Purvi in that fashion at all; he is no Casanova, and he simply is not made that way. I am sure that there are any number of men like that, but he is not one of them. Remember how properly he behaves with Purvi even when they are alone? He loves her, he does not merely desire her. It is because of this that my mother was lambasting Arjun only for what she saw as his folly in letting Purvi push him into this situation; she did not suspect him of any moral failings. So please do absolve him of this jeeju-saali kind of goings on, there is a good girl!
Arjun's problem is that he simply cannot get Purvi out of his system, and since they are all in the same place and the same family to boot, he does not even have the advantage of having her out of his sight. He thinks, completely wrongly, but still he thinks that he will feel better if she would only talk to him from time to time and let him still be her friend.
But of course that would never work, and not just because people would eye it negatively. The only way to get over a past relationship, especially such a deep love, is to cut it off totally and the person concerned with it, and if possible manage not to meet him or her again.
If you cannot do this, then work to see how you can go back to him or her. Whence the 2 options that I have outlined for Arjun. Of course the CVs will not choose either, that is for sure!
I agree with you about the folly of equating sacrifice and love. I am of the opinion that most sacrifices are counter-productive, and do nothing much more than boosting the ego of the sacrificer. The sacrifice (in this instance, Arjun) is normally never consulted.
You know, my dear,the ancient Greeks used to sacrifice white bulls to Zeus, the King of the Gods (the Roman equivalent being Jupiter), but the bull had to go willingly to the sacrifice, otherwise Zeus would not accept it. I do not know how they managed it in practice, perhaps they drugged the bulls. Anyhow, the PR CVs obviously have no time for such niceties!
No, I have not seen those episodes of DKDM online; my mother does not like looking at things on a laptop, she wants the 50 inch TV screen, and I do not know how to persuade her. But yesterday, they showed a glimpse of Lord Shiva in his full, dazzling wedding regalia, and she was delighted, as I was too, so maybe she will come around soon!
Here is wishing you all, once again, a very happy, safe (though this is really more for India, as the setting off of firecrackers is heavily regulated in the US) and fun-filled Deepavali next week.
Shyamala
Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
Ok heres my first instalment
You said that Arjun is not negative , just terminally stupid .But don't the terminally stupid do negative actions in the end .
Oh my dear Shyamala, not sure why my fonts are huge on the other post, but whenever, i try editing, it is messing up...sorry
This is not to say that there would be nothing for you to look forward to. In fact, I see that there is a good bit, and of course I would like you young people to enjoy yourselves! For me, alas, it is not so much the end of innocence, as the beginning, middle and end of incredible stupidity on the one hand and sustained manipulation on the other. I cannot stand either.
Take care, and have a very nice Deepavali next week.
Shyamala (Aunty if you like; probably more age appropriate!)
PS: It is interesting that you remember my post on that pre-confession mandir scene.That was the first time I saw how good an actor Rithwik was. The lines were also superb. He can still act, but the tale has gone to the dogs and he is not an alchemist to turn lead into gold.
Originally posted by: Pancham101
Ah but Shyamalaji, if I may call you that,With the right ingredients - khoya, cashews, ghee ( read- actors, script) ;The correct execution of the recipe (read - the writers, directors and to a certain extent the actors again);And a certain amount of faith at the start of preparation that the end product is going to be palatable (read - viewers confidence?);Even something as mundane as Lauki can hit a high note and be delicious (ArVilicious) for some of us😆I don't know whether you have given ArVi another chance since the fiasco...the Arjun who you absolutely loved in that Mandir scene pre-confession...still makes an appearance every chance he is given. When he gets mad at Purvi for taking to the road at an unGodly hour and Purvi's responses are a treat to watch. The Pre Lauki scene and of course the Lauki scene are again, in my opinion, highlights of the past few days. And how could I forget the dinner plate episode at the wedding. Their relationship has undergone the 'End of innocence' and they both are portraying this metamorphosis pretty good.Not to beat a dead horse, but the Lauki Farmers Association has Pavitra Rishta to thank after the Baba Ramdev for the spike in sales.I am truly honored that you responded to me personally. This is definitely a takeaway from you.
Originally posted by: sashashyam
My dear Pancham,
It was probably because, as you say, it is a tasteles and characterless vegetable, exactly like PR itself these days, and needs an awful lot of sugar to make it even barely palatable!😉 A very good fit, would you not say?
Shyamala B.Cowsik
Kool, that is what I been trying to say all along. Breaking of Purvi abd Arjun marriage could in reality start a huge gossip among all Chawl dwellers, that could put Aai is a super defensive position that any such even references made by FB could be extremely unwelcomed by Aai Archana herself, who could run to shut FB's mouth, even before he could get along in his long speech of glorifying the unmarried jodi...nothing happened...unbelievable that the CVs showed no gossip around Arjun and Ovi's marriage...unrealistic and unbelievable storyline so far...then no member could suggest purvi's jumping into Arjun's car...that is so not done, with Ovi being present there...can you even imagine MAnav's, Dk's and Archana's position is all the mess...