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Posted: 13 years ago
#61

Teju's Dilemma in my POV (wanted to post this for a while now)

I don't necessarily think it is wrong that Teju thinks or feel strongly about the fact that Soham is a goon, because, it is a fact that Soha is a career criminal. So. Her dislike or rather being uncomfortable with her new found brother is very understandable. What I felt, her not giving blood (as if she was the sole blood donor in the face of earth), was wrong on her part, because she acted God, as only her blood could help Soham. To me, it is even tougher to knowing push a human life that to of a brother to towards death. It is akin to pulling the lifesaving plug in a coma patient by a close relative. Because, that relative will, for the rest of her life, spend second guessing herself. But, Cvs wanted to show here that Purvi was much more accepting of Soham when his own sister isn't. But, this is a bit OTT, how does she know Soham isn't all that he projects himself to be? Those 3 instances of questionable goodness, isn't comparable to a life of crime that he actively engaged in or his shooting Arjun. He wasn't shown by the Cvs that he is forced to do the crimes or has a conscience. Rather, on the contrary he enjoyed himself and felt powerful being a criminal. So, Purvi's assumptions are premature and very childish in a sense. So, agree with a lot what Varsha, Kool and Shymala said, besides a human being is not only the result of genes or just parvarish, it is too multi-dimensional and multi-reasoning, circumstances and situations that determines what a child grows up to be.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Kalapi Bishnu has been a goon for a very long time...Balan has created a monster and Varsha being scared of losing him has done blind eye to it..Her weakness is love for Soham or attachment to him...Soham also loves her alot..
Purvi giving lame excuse with 3 different times Soham protected her is joke worthy...how about how many robberies he may have done? He might have even killed few for all we care...He put gun over Manav's head, he kidnapped Ovi & Purvi both...Thank god Ovi got away. Than he shot Arjun twice, He kidnapped Archana and took her to jungle...All these actions were of a true goon...not any amature..He has been trained under mastermind Balan Baba # 2..
Bishnu does have a soft streek in him but the other characteristics he carries outways that small softness...All teju knows is how her family was hurt and was at danger by this man...She does not care to put her family yet again in another danger..
Arjun was stupid in not being upset at being shot by the goon but he was more upset that Bshnu-Soham had kidnapped Purvi the same girl who dumped him like a hot potatoe at 11 th hour before the wedding. He has lost all his reasonings and logics of one side of his brain..
THis diff of opinion betwen Arjun & Purvi is going to put a wedge between them & drive them away from each other and possibly bring Ovi-Arjun closer. My gutt feeling...WHo knows what CVs PR god will do..just a hunch.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

shyamala the life changing event for Soham is knowing his real family .


The sadhu Valmiki met was Narad .

The anthill around him gave this name . Valmiki in sanskrit means that .

The Ramayana was composed by him in poetic verse and the first verse spouted out instinctively from his mouth when he observed two krouncha birds who were mating killed by an insensitive arrow of a hunter .

Seeing their death when they were blissfully happy during mating grieved him ...i believe he was making the customary oblations in the water then .

Varsha even maharashtrians celebrate exactly the days u mentioned ...Ashtami , Shitala Saptami .

I simply don't like how Sulo is shown as a devi . I hope Manju rubs Balan and Varsha in her chubby face .

Did u guys see how Archu clung to her mummy . And Manav is regarded as a mama's boy although he doesn't even look at his mom .

Is strenght identified as turning back on mother but jumping at wifi's whims and praising her mom .

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Kool, do you think that meeting one family is that dramatic that will become a life changing event? It will change his innate behavior?? I don;t see that Soham was forced into doing something he detested...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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See Kalapi here r my thoughts .

Manav also grew up in a chawl . He must have seen many boys smoking , his own father drank but Manav never had any vices . The 3 children grew up not touching alcohol or cigarettes . They were poor but really sanskaari not the false sanskaars that Sulo boasts of .

Reason ? Savita and Kaka had this quality in their character . While Savita fended for them outside and kept Vat Pournima vrats for an alcoholic husband , Kaka was the one the children looked up to . His character was one of rectitude . Manav became exactly like kaka .

Vandu if one notes became exactly like her mother ...she believed marraiges are for life , even if the husband is unworthy . She stuck in a marraige bearing marital rape , drunken rages , domestic abuse coz her mother had stuck the same way with an useless alcoholic husband .

Sachin if u notice had imbibed some of the not so good qualities of Savita . Lying , attraction for the good life etc . He was very much like his mother in some ways . He changed for the better when he met Shravani but he was definitely no Manav .

Soham on the other hand had a gunda for his father and such socialising since childhood . His mother was not one who kept vrats but a kept woman who only protested weakly against crimes . She never took a strong stand against them coz she herself had latched knowingly to a criminal as she herself had consciously done a crime .

I am not saying all the children of an unstable environment turn out to be gundas . I am saying that if both the parents are faulty the chances that the child emulates them are 95 % . Sure 5 % grow up differently but then those are the exceptions .

Teju is a highly intelligent girl . She should give blood not out of sibling love but out of humanity and she should be able to objectively foresee what her parents caught in the throes of an emotional storm cannot ...that life long habits r hard to go , it is very tragic that he had this kind of upbringing but the fact remains that he already has become a gunda and this will only endanger their family . This talk of improving him by Archana is something she should not agree with . Nobody suddenly improves that way . I expect this objectivity in Teju . Archana simply does not have it . If she had been so foresighted she would never have let her sister run off with her child .

Teju should also know one thing ...things could not have been any other way . While she should be wary of him she should not go to extremes and hate him . She even hated her grandmother who raised her exactly the same way . She never bothered to find out why her grandma distrusted Archana and the Karanjkars so much . She knew nothing of the history yet she was quick to make judgements and throw her out from her emotions .

Same with Soham . While being wary of his gunda ways she should also have this natural curiosity about her blood sibling's circumstances . She has once more pronounced judgement that she hates him and she has no wish to know the whys .

Ovi 's top priority is only and only Arjun . Not Archana , not Soham . She traded Archana's happiness for Arjun...she accepted her without really liking her for him . She has no wish , time or energy to be a sister to someone who shot the love of her life twice . Its only and only Arjun for Ovi .

Arjun is an outsider and he has been shot twice by this gunda . I can understand his reservations .

Purvi's beliefs in his soul are childish and dramatic . She knows nothing of his background ...for all she knows he might be an international drug dealer with a dead soul .

Arjun took two bullets for her and she does not care for them , takes him for granted and instead warns him that she won't tolerate her brother being called a gunda .

But thats what he is ...a gunda . What will Arjun call him then ...a senator ? Not only has she dumped him and rubbed salt on his wounds by joining a rival company but she dares to lecture him about opining differently . He is not a eunuch you know . It is my opinion that Arjun should slap her before dumping her emotionally .

I find currently Soham and Ovi the most interesting characters in PR .

I find the relationship between Jagya and Nandu the high point in BV . Nandu brings out the softness in the anti hero's personality that nobody else does . Yes he is using the child but he also has feelings for him .


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Posted: 13 years ago
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So finally I watched today's episode and here what I thought of it (not going into details much since everyone has said most of it and this post might just be reflective of what already has been said mostly).

1. In yesterday's episode, Sulo's outburst about how Archana couldn't give birth of to a goon was simply stupid, since all her own 4 kids are different. Mothers with multiple kids know very well how kids differ from childhood, from temperament to habits to (good/bad) nature. Then, Sulo's dumping of all faults on Varsha's upbringing was equally funny too. I felt she was relieved it wasn't a bad egg that was responsible for Soham fate…oh, I could see a sigh of relief😊…as if Varsha wasn't a Karanjkar😉.

2. Today, Purvi's explanation was BS. How Vishnu being Soham does negate his past? A kidnapper is a kidnapper…end of story😕

3. Archana & Sulo convo another BS…God Sulo…how stupid and demented…Is Archana 2 yr old…Cvs are 😕

4. DK telling Ovi to go to the family for support and that he will get the glass of water was equally confusing. Seriously, just physical presence is support, bring water, cooking food isn't, whatever 😕

5. Found MAnav's coldness towards Savita, when she came forward to console him, was irritating

6. As for Teju – I am really unsure. I feel, the Cvs should show a tug of war with various emotions, not simply a black or white scenario. It isn't easy for her to accept a goon as her brother, but since the naked truth is that Soham is her brother…it must be a dharma sankat for her, unlike Purvi who is shown all white (and so unrealistic). See, I feel a criminal's relative still feels and cries for the person he is, while still can support the legal punishment. The issues are different. Loving a criminal isn't wrong, supporting criminal activities is. Of course, it isn't an easy situation, and I guess that is why cvs ends up being either a black/white, when in reality it is anything but this simple…I found her walking out odd, it is too cold hearted…I can understand Arjun being that, he being unrelated to Deshmukhs, although I believe, his tune going to change after the sermon from Saint Purvi…Ovi's view wasn't really shown, but I guess she too can't accept a criminal brother.. Now, the question of the day is, are the Cvs trying to show, that Canadian or people growing up in the West have a stronger moral foundation…that is absolutely an interesting thought…

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Kool, you are right about Teju, she has been extremely judgmental about Savita too, who raised all of them. She is quick to pass judgments and so I guess her judgment on Soham the goon, is reflective of her nature. About, Ovi, I wished the Cvs showed a bit more of her nature. Maybe because the Cvs aren't really developing much except her love for Arjun, we think she is enigmatic, when the truth might be Cvs just don't have enough time to develop this character. Purvi and Archana are totally childish on their weird views of Soham and his blood…

Btw, who are Jagya and Nandu?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Jagya is Anandi's child marraige husband in Balika Vadhu .

He changed when he grew up and became a doctor and fell in love with a class mate who was also a doctor . He married her .

Nandu is his paternal cousin brother .

Jagya later understands his wife was lying to him about many things and he returns disgusted to his family full of genuine remorse but his family which has taken the decision of supporting Anandi rejects him and kicks him mercilessly out of the house .

This leads to a slow anger in him and he vows revengeful thoughts and promises to make ANandi as much an outcast as he as the child marraige affected even him but the family only thought of the injustice to her .

Right now he is trying to make a place in everyones heart in his family . He is regarded as devious but his relationship with his school going cousin brother whom he targets as an entrance tool in his family is interesting for though he uses him ...he also loves him .

Yes Cvs are perhaps not developing Ovi's character at all .




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Posted: 13 years ago
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i found it extremely idiotic how a criminal was being forgiven for all what he may have done just cause he is their blood? what about the timings when he was cursed for kidnapping purvi or made snide remarks in front of him. he was a criminal then and he is a criminal now. CVs are excelling themselves in showing nonsense that maybe in legal matters or something as small as their vrats, costumes or simple daily life tactics between husband and wife.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Varsha,

I am on the same page as you for all that you have written here, except that I cannot bring myself to have any soft corner for Savita. Never mind, let us agree to disagree on that! This apart, I am now in the happy position of not having to comment at all, except for saying that you are spot on practically all thru, especially @red..

Did you notice one thing? Purvi lectures Arjun in that ludicrous fashion because she knows that he will take it and not retaliate in kind. She does not try to lecture Teju when she is making even stronger statements against Vishnu, because she knows that Teju will not take it, and will retaliate very harshly against her. So you see, prudence always prevails, even among candidates for sainthood!

Thanks a lot for the info about the cast of the Ramayana - I did not know any of the names. And I agree that Vishwamitra too is very well cast; he radiates benevolence effortlessly where his favourite shishyas are concerned. I will definitely take a look and Devon ke Dev Mahadev since you recommend it so strongly, and I will also look in at the Ramayana forum.

As you watch the Ramayana, you realise what it is that makes and epic an epic. One has just to listen to the dialogue between Lord Rama and Parashurama; Lord Rama's lines are so beautiful one can listen to it ten times and not tire of it. And even if one knows everything that is going to happen, the power of the tale is such that you sit up as if it was all new and unknown. It is any day vastly superior to these senseless and sub-standard soaps.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Thanks Kools and Shyamala for excellent posts..

What right did Purvi have in interupting a convo between DK & Arjun about Soham? Is she Arjun's wife to go give him lecture on how she does not like to hear bad stuff abt her Soham Dada...Does Arjun or DK give a S*** abt Soham the gunda??? So as he is ArMan's son he is pardonable but if he was some random dude than he should be hung.
Why were all these family there in the hospital? Why Savita, Damo & Vandu last ones to enter...Even DK was there b4 them...ICU or CICU family or relatives are not allowed at all..Only spouse or a child can be in the room 5 min every half hour...Rest of the time they need to be out in the waiting room not outside of the ICU..Dude Soham just had the surgery related to heart why was he not on any sort a machine or on IVY-Blood ETC 😲 Him using his right hand to throw things looking at ArMan was hillarious.
It was sad to see all comforting Archana including Mommy dearest Sanskar ki devi Queen B Sulo...Teju observing how they all comforting beautiful Archana aai but no one next to Manav until Savita came but he did not even care abt her.
Ovi-Teju-Arjun's take on Soham is very normal and logical..Purvi's argument is lame...Its OK as long as he is her Soham Dada but if he was random guy he should be in Jail...Wow what a logic? WHo is she to impose her opinion on him? Ovi can talk to him abt that if there was a reason but she and Arjun along with Teju are on the same page..
I do not want Savita to be involved in this mess...She should remain firm as her own son Manav has disowned her...Let him be chummy with his JPBP MIL Sulo..I know I have alot more to write but this is all I can think right now...
Manav and now Arjun are the most weak characters of PR...Manav has brought all this on to himself, his marriage and to his family by allowing lopsided relationships by Archana with her Mayka Karanjkars. If I were Archana's mother i would be constantly concerned for my over crossing the boundries by getting involved in married daughter's life. 😳
Thanks Kools and Shyamala for sharing more on Valmiki.
I love Gagan Malik as Lord Rama such a soumya cewl personality. Love Neil Bhatt as Laxman...Neha Sargan has not grown on moi yet but she is multi talented girl..The soft exchange of looks between Lord Rama and Sita has so much love and romance one can feel..I am enjoying Ramayan so much...I would like both of u to post there so I can atleast read and enjoy...There are hardcore fans there..
SHyamala do try seeing Devon ke dev Mahadev...I found extremely strong chemistry between Lord Shiva and Parvati in past episodes...I dont watch it normally but had caught some omnibus few wknds back and was impressed...The actor who plays Lord Shiva is just WOW 😃
I also like Sage Vishwamitra who ever the actor is playing the role..

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Posted: 13 years ago
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well i m reading yourls view abt soham being criminal therefore should not be accepted ...you all think all deshmukh should reject
soham well i dont agree with it as for parents love of a criminal child is just love what you all want after knowing the truth manav archana should wait and watch soham distruction and feel release after reading news abt soham being killed in police encounter or in jail for 20 years i agree teju thinks from brain she is logical intelligent and archana emotional fool so what sometimes one should think from his heart it is not intelligent mind that wins but strong believe that makes impossible happen .

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