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Posted: 12 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Tweeg

The thing I don't agree with is the message that Ekta is sending out - you only ever get what you want through manipulation. She's pulled this in countless serials where 2 sisters or friends fall for the same guy and the "evil" one always gets him through her scheming. I don't know why she keeps doing this. If she wants to distance 2 lovers to intensify their feelings for each other, then why not explore the relationship through physically distancing them or create some tragedy. This marriage distancing is so old - and probably the most predictable thing (after making the female lead a self-sacrificing, queen of pain and tears) she ever uses.

C'mon Ekta! Get some new material! In fact, go find yourself a husband and learn a thing or two about REAL relationships.
In the meantime, I refuse to watch Arjun and Ovi share screen space.



Well said👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: archverma10

I think you just said it. Your parents barely knew each other. Ive said it before and I will say it again: now hear me LOUD and CLEAR. And for God's sake keep to the point: Arjun and Ovi did know each other and were friends before. Their previous friendship was not enough to make him fall in love with her...what makes you think they will "learn to like each other and fall in love eventually now?" Before they had a good friendship...now because of her selfishness and betrayal...he has gone from liking her as a friend to hating her...any attempt he is making at being nice is solely because of Purvi's sacrifice and wish...and this is the truth...

Ive noticed you have been brutal towards ARVI...and have kept silent until now. If the mods wish to rebuke me they can feel free...they will face plenty of protests and resistence as I am not abusing or using language that is as nearly as bad as yours. Do NOT make the foolish
mistake of taking me on in an educated and classy debate...based on logic and analysis...you cannot hope to win. Believe me.

y u getting so personal,we tlking about fictional chrcters
and i was never against arvi as a jodi.i was against how were they dealing with ovi
i alwys wanted arvi to marry but wanted time for ovi,cause deshmukwere to move to canada.if u read my post so crefully tat u claimed tat i am arvi hater,dint u read tat
i also said hope manav stops arjun-ovi marriage
but now after arjun-ovi getting married i dont want arjun-purvi together,if tat makes u feel i am arvi hater so be my guest
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Posted: 12 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: archverma10

I think you just said it. Your parents barely knew each other. Ive said it before and I will say it again: now hear me LOUD and CLEAR. And for God's sake keep to the point: Arjun and Ovi did know each other and were friends before. Their previous friendship was not enough to make him fall in love with her...what makes you think they will "learn to like each other and fall in love eventually now?" Before they had a good friendship...now because of her selfishness and betrayal...he has gone from liking her as a friend to hating her...any attempt he is making at being nice is solely because of Purvi's sacrifice and wish...and this is the truth...

Ive noticed you have been brutal towards ARVI...and have kept silent until now. If the mods wish to rebuke me they can feel free...they will face plenty of protests and resistence as I am not abusing or using language that is as nearly as bad as yours. Do NOT make the foolish
mistake of taking me on in an educated and classy debate...based on logic and analysis...you cannot hope to win. Believe me.

Dear, who betrayed Arjun more, Purvi who professed to love Arjun always and live her life with him with promises after promises, or was it Ovi. It was Arjun, who didn't keep her promise with Ovi in the first phase of the friendship dear, not the other way round. Purvi, betrayed her love Arjun square and simple, she did it so meticulously that Arjun just went through it. Purvi planned it from the wedding ritual and became one of the witnesses of the marriage. So, how did Ovi betrayed Arjun. In fact, Ovi just came and married Arjun. Ovi didn't force anyone. Ovi didn't force Purvi to accept the deal nor plead with Arjun to marry her. All the pleading was done by Purvi and Purvi alone dear. Ovi didn't plave a gin on anyone's head nor blackmailed them with suicide attempts, in fact Arjun and Purvi didn't even know of her attempts. So, why blame Ovi when she was phoned by none other than Purvi to come and marry Arjun.

About the circumstance of of the marriage. True wasn't the ideal, but how was it bad really???? Ovi married Arjun because she loved him. Purvi sold Arjun, because she didn't love him enough. So, to you Purvi if now marries Arjun that will be under better circumstance, how dear??? To me it is worst. At least Arjun was Ovi's prioriy, clearly Arjun wasn't Purvi's priority ever….so still we are justifying Arjun/purvi's marriage as made in heaven, where actually true love wasn't there at least not from Purvi's side…my POV…

And pray tell me what you mean by educated and classy discussion…do you mean that we on this forum who are discussing against the topic are dumb people…sorry to disappoint you dear, me very educated dear, just to let you know…want see my resume???….

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Posted: 12 years ago
#34
In this debate of love vs marraige I side with the institution of marraige as it brings stability to society .

I don't believe that 'feelings' should upset one's life . ' Love ' is a feeling and trust me its not eternal at all but very transitory . It 's marraige that is eternal [ at least it was in the generation above me .divorces are rampant today .]

Marriage channelises this transitory emotion that can create chaos in society .

Marraige , then divorce , then remarry is not for me . For me it is no gudda guddi ka khel .

Should one stay in a loveless marrige then ?

My answer to this is at 22 Arjun knows nothing of life or eternal love . What Archana said was correct ...give it time .

I agree with Varsha when she says that there should be divorces when there is domestic abuse etc . But if he is a good proivider , if your in laws are understanding like DK and all he has is a previous love affair ...try and work on it .

India is replete with successful arranged marraiges and I believe that it is an Indian serial they are showing .

If the message of this serial is 'love' is eternal and break a marraige for this eternal feeling , sorry , I don't agree as its the institution of marraige that is / was eternal not at all a human feeling . Infact human feelings change rapidly .

Marraige , as sherma says is the union of 2 families . As i see it , the 2 families r happy .

I also don't agree that it was a 'forced' marraige . Anybody can give you any amounts of deals and temptations to break off will you take them . If it truly was 'love' you will tell your fiancee and you will reject it as a team .

It was accepted willy nilly and if they now go back on it saying 'oh we were foolish and this is now love' it is insulting this great institution .

If force was used ...it was used by Purvi who used her hold on him to make him do her bidding . She did not even catch his eye during his marraige to Ovi ...he was constantly looking at her hoping she will change her mind .

Ovi had given up ...nobody was listening to her . It was Purvi who phoned her after mulling on it .

Marraiges have little or nothing to do with infatuations or these love stories . Infact arrange marraiges and love marriges sail in the same boat after children are born and the honeymoon is over . They simply become 'marraiges' which entail many responsibility .

These eternal love stories then become an indulgent memory of youth when one is alone and the family goes out .😆


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Posted: 12 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

In this debate of love vs marraige I side with the institution of marraige as it brings stability to society .


I don't believe that 'feelings' should upset one's life . ' Love ' is a feeling and trust me its not eternal at all but very transitory . It 's marraige that is eternal [ at least it was in the generation above me .divorces are rampant today .]

Marriage channelises this transitory emotion that can create chaos in society .

Marraige , then divorce , then remarry is not for me . For me it is no gudda guddi ka khel .

Should one stay in a loveless marrige then ?

My answer to this is at 22 Arjun knows nothing of life or eternal love . What Archana said was correct ...give it time .

I agree with Varsha when she says that there should be divorces when there is domestic abuse etc . But if he is a good proivider , if your in laws are understanding like DK and all he has is a previous love affair ...try and work on it .

India is replete with successful arranged marraiges and I believe that it is an Indian serial they are showing .

If the message of this serial is 'love' is eternal and break a marraige for this eternal feeling , sorry , I don't agree as its the institution of marraige that is / was eternal not at all a human feeling . Infact human feelings change rapidly .

Marraige , as sherma says is the union of 2 families . As i see it , the 2 families r happy .

I also don't agree that it was a 'forced' marraige . Anybody can give you any amounts of deals and temptations to break off will you take them . If it truly was 'love' you will tell your fiancee and you will reject it as a team .

It was accepted willy nilly and if they now go back on it saying 'oh we were foolish and this is now love' it is insulting this great institution .

If force was used ...it was used by Purvi who used her hold on him to make him do her bidding . She did not even catch his eye during his marraige to Ovi ...he was constantly looking at her hoping she will change her mind .

Ovi had given up ...nobody was listening to her . It was Purvi who phoned her after mulling on it .

Marraiges have little or nothing to do with infatuations or these love stories . Infact arrange marraiges and love marriges sail in the same boat after children are born and the honeymoon is over . They simply become 'marraiges' which entail many responsibility .

These eternal love stories then become an indulgent memory of youth when one is alone and the family goes out .😆


I totally agree to disagree with you on one of your point and that is "
"Ovi had given up ...nobody was listening to her . It was Purvi who phoned her after mulling on it ." Ovi had never given up on Arjun. She had gone begging to Archana and then to Purvi to give her Arjun to her. Ovi had also made a deal with Purvi that give Arjun back to her and her aai will get back her husband and family.
Purvi did call her to marry Arjun because I think that Purvi thought that she would be repaying Archana for bringing her up.
These are my thoughts only
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Posted: 12 years ago
#36
My dear Ovi was slitting her wrists . She was going from this world and Arjun Purvi's life forever . Not that this makes her great but it is a fact shown in this serial .

Purvi herself told Archana that it was I who phoned her .

If this is not giving up what is .😆 But you are entitled to your opinion.


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Posted: 12 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

In this debate of love vs marraige I side with the institution of marraige as it brings stability to society .


I don't believe that 'feelings' should upset one's life . ' Love ' is a feeling and trust me its not eternal at all but very transitory . It 's marraige that is eternal [ at least it was in the generation above me .divorces are rampant today .]

Marriage channelises this transitory emotion that can create chaos in society .

Marraige , then divorce , then remarry is not for me . For me it is no gudda guddi ka khel .

Should one stay in a loveless marrige then ?

My answer to this is at 22 Arjun knows nothing of life or eternal love . What Archana said was correct ...give it time .

I agree with Varsha when she says that there should be divorces when there is domestic abuse etc . But if he is a good proivider , if your in laws are understanding like DK and all he has is a previous love affair ...try and work on it .

India is replete with successful arranged marraiges and I believe that it is an Indian serial they are showing .

If the message of this serial is 'love' is eternal and break a marraige for this eternal feeling , sorry , I don't agree as its the institution of marraige that is / was eternal not at all a human feeling . Infact human feelings change rapidly .

Marraige , as sherma says is the union of 2 families . As i see it , the 2 families r happy .

I also don't agree that it was a 'forced' marraige . Anybody can give you any amounts of deals and temptations to break off will you take them . If it truly was 'love' you will tell your fiancee and you will reject it as a team .

It was accepted willy nilly and if they now go back on it saying 'oh we were foolish and this is now love' it is insulting this great institution .

If force was used ...it was used by Purvi who used her hold on him to make him do her bidding . She did not even catch his eye during his marraige to Ovi ...he was constantly looking at her hoping she will change her mind .

Ovi had given up ...nobody was listening to her . It was Purvi who phoned her after mulling on it .

Marraiges have little or nothing to do with infatuations or these love stories . Infact arrange marraiges and love marriges sail in the same boat after children are born and the honeymoon is over . They simply become 'marraiges' which entail many responsibility .

These eternal love stories then become an indulgent memory of youth when one is alone and the family goes out .😆


Absolutely Kool….arrange marriage work, just fine, even if during the marriage something untoward happened….besides, they say marriages happens after 1000 dialogues and not all interactions are pleasant…India is full of arranged marriages and none have to look for examples of arrange marriages that are successful….

Besides, how was the 'love' between that of Arjun and Puvi was the 'true' and 'eternal' one, it was only 3 month s old….does one realizes true love within that short amount of time, when really that love wasn't truly tested….See, one test and how this so called love just broke apart…so how is this true love and not merely an infatuation….Besides, why are we thinking that this nameless rishta between Arjun and Purvi was Pavitra and Arjun and Ovi who is married and is husband and wife isn't a "pavitra rishta'??

Besides, only first love is true love and love that happens after the first isn't….I don't see how that logic can be true…love can happen more than ones in one life time and besides the so called first love rather maynot be the true one…see how many young people fall in their first love and ends up in a sex trade or something in real life….happens because these young people can't see through the mirrors that are in front of their eye, because of all the colors that this 'first love' (read it as hormones) throws their way…

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I am sorry, I completely disagree. Ovi turned love and marriage into a joke, and she used a horrible weapon against Purvi, their "mom." Ovi new that Archana too loved Purvi a lot and she wouldn't separate Arjun from her for her own sake. However, Ovi new Purvi very well, she knew that for Archana's happiness she would give up Arjun.
Ovi didn't want Archana in the family she wanted to snatch Arjun from Purvi and she used her mom as a weapon.
If Arjun and Ovi stay together marriage will turn into a joke, and it will be highly disrespected!
How can you say, that just cause ovi and arjun are married, just for the sake of one person, the other should suffocate? Would you say the same that if a girl was being beat by her husband "domestic violence" for the sake of her family she should die a hundred deaths?
Cause to me what you are suggesting is equivalent to telling a woman or man that if they are going through domestic violence they should stay in marriage.
Why would you force someone to be married even if they are not happy? Why would Arjun be forced to carry out a marriage that he knows he won't be happy nor will he be able to keep Ovi happy?
what kind of century do you live in? I remember these kinds of suggestions were made long time ago, when parents were desperate to get rid of their daughters, and told them even if they aren't happy they must stay in their marriage.😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kalapi

Absolutely Kool'.arrange marriage work, just fine, even if during the marriage something untoward happened'.besides, they say marriages happens after 1000 dialogues and not all interactions are pleasant'India is full of arranged marriages and none have to look for examples of arrange marriages that are successful'.

Besides, how was the 'love' between that of Arjun and Puvi was the 'true' and 'eternal' one, it was only 3 month s old'.does one realizes true love within that short amount of time, when really that love wasn't truly tested'.See, one test and how this so called love just broke apart'so how is this true love and not merely an infatuation'.Besides, why are we thinking that this nameless rishta between Arjun and Purvi was Pavitra and Arjun and Ovi who is married and is husband and wife isn't a "pavitra rishta'??

Besides, only first love is true love and love that happens after the first isn't'.I don't see how that logic can be true'love can happen more than ones in one life time and besides the so called first love rather maynot be the true one'see how many young people fall in their first love and ends up in a sex trade or something in real life'.happens because these young people can't see through the mirrors that are in front of their eye, because of all the colors that this 'first love' (read it as hormones) throws their way'

arrange marriages work, but not all of them!!! There are many people even now, after having kids and being married for 30-40 years get divorced, only because they feel they want to be free and there is nothing wrong with that. I know many couples who have had children and have divorced because they don't think they can be in the relationship any longer...but are still friends with their ex half.
Yes, some marriages that are arranged work out...and some people may fall in love, BUT not all consider it to be love, it is more like respect, friendship and understanding!
Many people whom had have arranged marriages, despite having kids, despite respecting their husbands, feel suffocated in their marriage, or for even men...and they don't deserve that. 😊
Ok, so lets put your example forth, so Ovi and Ajrun remain married, WHAT IF Arjun never falls in love? What if he hates her for years, and she has to deal with his hate and indifference?? What is the gaurantee that Arjun would fall in love? After 10 years of their marriage, Arjun is still the way he is, maybe a little cooled off but still he doesn't give Ovi the right as a wife that she deserves then? What IF Ovi because of Arjun's behavior begins to feel suffocated in her marriage and wants to break it off then? 😛
Guys just having a healthy debate with you all sorry if i said anything that offended any of you😃
Edited by mysterygurl1427 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#40
We are the dinosaurs of the forum .😆

But we live in this century only .😆 Infact we live in developed countries abd have seen both the worlds and both the cultures .
Arranged marraiges are done very much even today in India and even Mumbai and no they don't wait for the people involved to become a couple before they get married .😆

And we advocated a divorce if there was domestic violence . Clearly it is mentioned in my reply .

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