Kool's commentary : Sep 17 PR - Page 6

Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Kalapi dear 🤗 We are old school alright 😉😆 with few exceptions 😛 Loved your post to Pooja 👏

I am doing alright...How r u? Today was not a day to write anything much...I am tired of writing abt Archana, manav and rest of the nimrods in the show...But I was reading you all and had something to say so here I am...😃

I did not like the hug outside of courtroom as it was imposed upon by Archu...I had no issue with the hug Manav asked for and hesitantly Archana gave it in front of Damo and family...Its OK as they got united after many yrs...Natural and was sweet..

But today ArMan holding hand it defo looked odd...No one does that in India especially walking up to the temple...You may do that walking in the park or something but not outside of temple like newly weds youngsters...But hey TRP ke liye budho ko bhi romance karte dikhao...ArMan fans want it...

ArVi fans are mad and sad and they want divorce or annulment between Arjun-Ovi lets see what happens..

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Hey Sowmya🤗, how are you dear, still busy???

Haven't seen you much around???

Originally posted by: salvatore-nina

Kools loved your commentary, especially the ones regarding Sage DK 😆!

As for Purvi, that girl has started getting on my last nerves. I watched a little part from the episode where Sulo hid the paper with Ovi-Arjun's wedding pic. Purvi was all happy and then she has this weird look on her face and starts mourning about her doomed relationship with Arjun, and I was just completely disgusted with the scene. Purvi's woefully sad faces are just becoming irritating to watch considering she was the one who got Arjun-Ovi married. She shouldn't feel bad now because like someone said she sacrificed Arjun for a higher cause. Arjun has just become a pathetic fool as well, chasing after Purvi, a girl who literally just sold him off. As for Ovi, she's wrong to want to obtain Arjun's love by bargaining with Purvi and then hoping he will realized the love he has for her, but at this point, I feel that Arjun is the biggest fool and wrongdoer. He's married and chasing after another girl. Even if he loves Purvi, shouldn't he consider her reputation and wonder what people would say if they see that she's being pursued by a married man , her sister's husband 😲? And I still don't understand why the TRPs rose!

Originally posted by: Luv4games

i am so sick of arjun...why is he even acting like the victim...he was also selfish and an equal player...if purvi asked him to marry ovi for her mother, and ovi for her love or obsession then he also WILLINGLY AGREED (he was drugged or tied up) to marry ovi to make purvi happy ...that seems pretty selfish to me...he knew he would never keep ovi happy but in order to make purvi happy he went ahead either way...

another point...does prince arjun want a wife at home and then a girlfriend on the side...did he really think that he could just marry ovi and then carry on with purvi on the side...whether he likes it or not he is a MARRIED MAN now...either divorce ovi FIRST then run after purvi or just stay faithful to your wife...

and Ms. Saint Purvi..if you really do not want arjun to come after you then YELL at him TELL HIM OFF... be serious and ask him to leave you alone like you would do to another random guy that you did not like...if he still does not listen then go talk to DK, manav, archana and ask them to tell arjun to back offf...just because marriage is done does not mean they can go right back to where they were...

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Well, immature Arjun and Ovi's marriage was fixed by their parents to begin with. So, I guess even if they were immature, the parents were not and before this mess up, they themselves agreed to the alliance. So, maybe it is good that Ovi did marry Arjun, you see. And now that Ovi/Arjun are married, see now, how all the parents are happy and relieved...Archana and Manav are pretty happy and rather not worried, wouldn't you say...see, I guess, the parents did decide for these 18+yrs old adult before and that marriage only happened...so, they aren't worried...😃

Well, as of Arjun/Purvi's love, eh, well, I mean the 'love' wasn't because the 'elders' wanted rather accepted, in fact, If I might add, rather there were issues too...Archana's challenge, Manav's unhappiness...so, even the love affair had it issues...not accepted wholeheartedly by the elders...so, mature people had issues, like happens in real life too...😃

About bad examples of parents that these kids have seen, oh well, even if Arjun/Purvi married, their life would be based off those bad examples too, so those bad examples are to me a bit redundant. Just because at the nick of time Arjun/Ovi married instead of Arjun/Purvi, it does mean it was due to all these bad examples😃...I mean for Arvi fans, any justification goes, but I don't really see the extrapolation. The marriage that happened was previously blessed by these very elders, unless you are saying to begin with the couple was wrong (in that case of course, these 3 could never marry😆, since the parents wouldn't change into better married couple at least not in this life😉...convoluted yes, but hey, my logic hold), Besides, marriage between best friends happens and it works too. Rather if friendship forms the basis of marriage, it is even better than love, and with time, love will happen...😃

As for Arjun's coming around and accepting, I don't see why not. See, Arjun to defended Ovi from goons, accepted himself as her boyfriend. Then, Arjun and Ovi's marriage was fixed. Arjun then fell in love with Purvi (this is probably what he did by himself😃). Then Archana challenged, he accepted. Marriage was fixed. Then Purvi forced him to marry Ovi, he accepted. Now he is married, with time he will accept himself as Ovi's hubby too...see how he accepts things...hahaha, that is what I see...😉

About the situation he married Ovi in. Well, it wasn't really created by Ovi, really😉. Rather Purvi did make him marry Ovi. He screams that he didn't want to, like a 5 yr who does things that parents don't want him to, and then tells, he didn't mean too. How long will this line of logic really run😃...he is actually behaving like a spoilt kid, not Ovi, right? She is rather enjoying being a pativrata bahu...And if you tell me the circumstances under which the marriage happened wasn't conducive, oh, well, true, wasn't the ideal one, but it wasn't bad either...I mean he wasn't kidnapped, blindfolded and married off, it could have happened in that way too😆😆😉...or now marrying Purvi could be (I know, you don't want that😃), who sold him off for someone else...at least Ovi loved him enough to put forward the 'deal', but, Purvi planned and executed it all through, rather Ovi came to the temple and just got married to, arranged by Purvi, wouldn't you say😃...she wasn't actively pursuing Purvi to make up her mind or use any other underhand tactics...right????

Hi,

You got me wrong there. I am not talking about how I perceive things in real life, I was making my point only keeping the characters in the show and their respective backgrounds in mind. 😊

When the so-called adults made the marriage alliance between Arjun and Ovi there was no development called Purvi in between. Even though it is Arjun's mistake that Purvi was brought into the picture, you simply cannot compare the two situations before and after. Now Purvi is looming like a death threat to their marriage and THAT makes all the difference to the re-surrected alliance between Arjun and Ovi. As parents, I would be pretty concerned of this, especially knowing how ridiculously immature the kids involved are.

Maybe being too young, my viewpoint is a lot more flexible than others and I see things keeping every circumstance and mind-set in mind rather than forcing them into boundaries of institutions which anyway these 20 year olds don't understand. Pushing them into forced responsibilities only makes the relationship more farcical. The scenario would be different like someone posted if Ovi was a nice little girl Arjun dumped for Purvi and then got married to due to his foolishness, then yes Ovi with her love and understanding would make Arjun fall in love with her. Right now the premise of this marriage is hatred from Arjun to Ovi and obsession from Ovi to Arjun , both being very selfish in their way. How is this going to work? I would rather walk out than keep going on like this forever., especially since I have aptly portrayed my mental age and how precariously I handle personal relationships.

I was not in favor of Arjun falling for Purvi while having promised marriage to his best friend and I was not in favor of him not sitting Ovi down and giving her a little time to move on and neither was I in favor of him giving in to Purvi's delusional demands. Point is, 18 or 20, these kids do not understand marriage and rightly so. They neither have the example in front of them and nor do they have the maturity to understand the depth of their decisions. There are many youngsters that get married at 19-21 being "in-love" and realize how they overlooked all other things in the process. 2-3 years down the line they cannot even work their relationship out and separate. If you made a haste mistake at 20 yrs old, and if you obviously do not possess the sensibility to care about other people, then you would rather correct the mistake than give the other person and yourself misery all life long. It happens and in India. Responsibility can be forced but relationships can't. Arranged marriages work, yes, but if they are formed on the basis of someone making a deal for you, it leads to a certain disgust and hatred towards that person which is what Arjun is showing and with such a foundation, please tell me how is one to accept this and move on happily? He hit the hammer on his foot, agreed, but does it mean that he hates Ovi for the rest of his life being married to her and in turn gives her the grief of never being happily married? For the sake of BOTH individuals involved, I would be in favor of the marriage being annulled.

They showed this in Kasam Se which was EKta's serial where Ram Kapoor marries the older sister by some weird twist of fate instead of the younger sister. He hates this new wife for agreeing to this senseless marriage, but VERY IMPORTANTLY, this wife is actually a super nice mentally sorted girl who is not psychotic, crazy, obsessed or selfish. With positive attributes she wins the heart eventually of the man and it is a happy marriage. But Ovi with her character being so self-centred, obsessed, psychotic and obviously indifferent to Arjun's real feelings, makes it a never-win situation for her in this marriage at least. Yes Arjun was indiffierent to her feelings too but he DID NOT love her to put her feelings before his, but she claims to "LOVE" him so isn't it absurd that selfless love counts for thinking about yoursefl alone without giving any regard to how the person you love feels? So love doesn't exist in this relationship and friendship died long back. What is the premise to make this work if I may ask? Again, I am not one delusional ARVI fan or anything, I watch this show for a lot of reasons and hence I am not siding with any of the 3 stupid youngsters. I am just saying, what is done is done and to continue making mistakes is no sense at all. They all should be away from each other for a long long time or even forever😆

As far as your point on how Arjun-Purvi getting married would also be on basis of bad examples of marriage, well, I see that you conveniently forget that there was something called "love" between them and at least on that basis they would have worked it out. 😊Same way, if earlier as planned Arjun-Ovi would have been married without Purvi ever entering the picture, on the basis of "friendship" leading to eventually love would have helped work it out.

In recent circumstances, hatred towards your best friend is not going to EVER turn into "love" or anything else close to civil to help Arjun move on and for Ovi to be happy in this loveless marriage. I am not saying Arjun is right or Purvi is right, even Arjun-Purvi getting married at 20yrs old after having been in love for 3 months was pushing it, considering how Arjun did not have the maturity to think through his actions and consequences on Ovi and the family relationships and nor did Purvi have the sense to think out this whole web of connections between Ovi and her and how this would affect everything. I would have given it time for my mother to sort thigns out and eventually then get married. This whole rush for chat mangni pat byaah was also not something I approved of. 😕

You are simply forgetting the basis of this marriage and forced or willingly, Arjun hating Ovi, (whether right or wrong) is never going to help this work and Ovi being as dumb as she is trying to get external forces to help her situation isn't going to work either. She needs to grow up a hell lot before she can understand what she has gotten into and Arjun needs to man up way more before he can understand the responsibility he has undertaken. With parents as good as mute dolls, I don't see anyone putting any sense here and Arjun-Ovi can remain in their laa laa land each doing what he/she wants and ultimately still managing to make a mockery of marriage.😲

Either ways, my point is that since Arjun fell in love with Purvi, there have only been mistakes made and pitfalls in the whole scenario and that marriage on the hilltop was the last straw of it all. They have simply shown 20 yr olds to be stupid immature and make rash decisions, while the parents had no sense to interfere in their lives and sit their kids down and get some things straightened out. And now this marriage dragging on is also just going on continuing the spiraling mistakes until someone dies or goes severely insane. The parents will stand and watch this charade while being so self-involved in their own marital bliss, until the next ridiculous twist churns them out of their stupor. 👏

Just my POV but I could not resist defending myself, but I think it is good to be able to challenge each other's opinions , that;s what makes the forum fun too :) 😊

Originally posted by: pp29

Hi,

You got me wrong there. I am not talking about how I perceive things in real life, I was making my point only keeping the characters in the show and their respective backgrounds in mind. 😊

When the so-called adults made the marriage alliance between Arjun and Ovi there was no development called Purvi in between. Even though it is Arjun's mistake that Purvi was brought into the picture, you simply cannot compare the two situations before and after. Now Purvi is looming like a death threat to their marriage and THAT makes all the difference to the re-surrected alliance between Arjun and Ovi. As parents, I would be pretty concerned of this, especially knowing how ridiculously immature the kids involved are.

True, Purvi is looming in the picture as was Ovi before. None of these people could percieve the whhole scenario and take appropriate actions...Now after the marriage, I am hoping that Purvi will not loom between a married couple, if she did what will be the difference between her and Punni...surely, the Sanskaari girl like hers know her boundaries set by herself...

Of Arjun, I have given up...what the Cvs have made this character, 2 timing then 2 timing now and running behind a girl who planned and sold him...no self respect at all...

Maybe being too young, my viewpoint is a lot more flexible than others and I see things keeping every circumstance and mind-set in mind rather than forcing them into boundaries of institutions which anyway these 20 year olds don't understand. Pushing them into forced responsibilities only makes the relationship more farcical. The scenario would be different like someone posted if Ovi was a nice little girl Arjun dumped for Purvi and then got married to due to his foolishness, then yes Ovi with her love and understanding would make Arjun fall in love with her. Right now the premise of this marriage is hatred from Arjun to Ovi and obsession from Ovi to Arjun , both being very selfish in their way. How is this going to work? I would rather walk out than keep going on like this forever., especially since I have aptly portrayed my mental age and how precariously I handle personal relationships.

No worries, me young too, don't consider myself old and with bery modern veiwpoints...and no one forced anyone into any relationship...all 3 did what they did with a sane mind...where was force involved...As I said before, Ovi didn't use any force, she was rather making her journey towards the heavens...Besides, I don't see Ovi as a bad girl...not at all...she has a POV and she went forward with her POV, nothing wrong,...girls in the West are taught to go out and achieve things, she achieved being a supermodel...I love achiers and go-getters...we need more of her types...so, you don't think Purvi was selfish towards Arjun, she who gave him up so freely...nothing wrong in that???

I was not in favor of Arjun falling for Purvi while having promised marriage to his best friend and I was not in favor of him not sitting Ovi down and giving her a little time to move on and neither was I in favor of him giving in to Purvi's delusional demands. Point is, 18 or 20, these kids do not understand marriage and rightly so. They neither have the example in front of them and nor do they have the maturity to understand the depth of their decisions. There are many youngsters that get married at 19-21 being "in-love" and realize how they overlooked all other things in the process. 2-3 years down the line they cannot even work their relationship out and separate. If you made a haste mistake at 20 yrs old, and if you obviously do not possess the sensibility to care about other people, then you would rather correct the mistake than give the other person and yourself misery all life long. It happens and in India. Responsibility can be forced but relationships can't. Arranged marriages work, yes, but if they are formed on the basis of someone making a deal for you, it leads to a certain disgust and hatred towards that person which is what Arjun is showing and with such a foundation, please tell me how is one to accept this and move on happily? He hit the hammer on his foot, agreed, but does it mean that he hates Ovi for the rest of his life being married to her and in turn gives her the grief of never being happily married? For the sake of BOTH individuals involved, I would be in favor of the marriage being annulled.

Again Responsibility was forced...besides, if Arjun hates his current state, I have asked before...why is he not going for a divorce...instead of being a married man running towards another girl...even if you don't consider then sisters...is that healthy???

They showed this in Kasam Se which was EKta's serial where Ram Kapoor marries the older sister by some weird twist of fate instead of the younger sister. He hates this new wife for agreeing to this senseless marriage, but VERY IMPORTANTLY, this wife is actually a super nice mentally sorted girl who is not psychotic, crazy, obsessed or selfish. With positive attributes she wins the heart eventually of the man and it is a happy marriage. But Ovi with her character being so self-centred, obsessed, psychotic and obviously indifferent to Arjun's real feelings, makes it a never-win situation for her in this marriage at least. Yes Arjun was indiffierent to her feelings too but he DID NOT love her to put her feelings before his, but she claims to "LOVE" him so isn't it absurd that selfless love counts for thinking about yoursefl alone without giving any regard to how the person you love feels? So love doesn't exist in this relationship and friendship died long back. What is the premise to make this work if I may ask? Again, I am not one delusional ARVI fan or anything, I watch this show for a lot of reasons and hence I am not siding with any of the 3 stupid youngsters. I am just saying, what is done is done and to continue making mistakes is no sense at all. They all should be away from each other for a long long time or even forever😆

But isn't Arjun obsessed too for Purvi, if he got married just to prove himself...what about what he is doing now??? Alos, I don't think Ovi was selfish, she went and got Arjun becuase the other was willin to give him up...Love doesn't only mean sacrifices...no...it doesn't at all...

As far as your point on how Arjun-Purvi getting married would also be on basis of bad examples of marriage, well, I see that you conveniently forget that there was something called "love" between them and at least on that basis they would have worked it out. 😊Same way, if earlier as planned Arjun-Ovi would have been married without Purvi ever entering the picture, on the basis of "friendship" leading to eventually love would have helped work it out.

Darling, I didn't forget a thing. So, even now after so much water under the bridge, Arjun still loves the girl, who have him up, he wasn't her priority ever...he still love her...is this love that kills of self respect and self worth...obsession or Love, is my question...so why, point a finger at Ovi..

In recent circumstances, hatred towards your best friend is not going to EVER turn into "love" or anything else close to civil to help Arjun move on and for Ovi to be happy in this loveless marriage. I am not saying Arjun is right or Purvi is right, even Arjun-Purvi getting married at 20yrs old after having been in love for 3 months was pushing it, considering how Arjun did not have the maturity to think through his actions and consequences on Ovi and the family relationships and nor did Purvi have the sense to think out this whole web of connections between Ovi and her and how this would affect everything. I would have given it time for my mother to sort thigns out and eventually then get married. This whole rush for chat mangni pat byaah was also not something I approved of. 😕

Never say never, dear...Ovi can do a lot...hatred can also be changed into love...it will take a lot, but can be done...besides why is Arjun hating Ovi and not Purvi...find it convoluted...obsession again...why isn't he running to get a divorce, what is pulling him back????

You are simply forgetting the basis of this marriage and forced or willingly, Arjun hating Ovi, (whether right or wrong) is never going to help this work and Ovi being as dumb as she is trying to get external forces to help her situation isn't going to work either. She needs to grow up a hell lot before she can understand what she has gotten into and Arjun needs to man up way more before he can understand the responsibility he has undertaken. With parents as good as mute dolls, I don't see anyone putting any sense here and Arjun-Ovi can remain in their laa laa land each doing what he/she wants and ultimately still managing to make a mockery of marriage.😲

Are you saying Arjun was forced into marrying Ovi...Ovi forced him to marry her...how???

Either ways, my point is that since Arjun fell in love with Purvi, there have only been mistakes made and pitfalls in the whole scenario and that marriage on the hilltop was the last straw of it all. They have simply shown 20 yr olds to be stupid immature and make rash decisions, while the parents had no sense to interfere in their lives and sit their kids down and get some things straightened out. And now this marriage dragging on is also just going on continuing the spiraling mistakes until someone dies or goes severely insane. The parents will stand and watch this charade while being so self-involved in their own marital bliss, until the next ridiculous twist churns them out of their stupor. 👏

Just my POV but I could not resist defending myself, but I think it is good to be able to challenge each other's opinions , that;s what makes the forum fun too :) 😊

Always love a good arguement...😃

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Always love a good arguement...😃

Originally posted by: pp29

I must say you have your valid points staring at me in the face. 😊But also, I think we both are on the same page. I have a complete disregard for all 3 characters. I am not in favor of either. My solution is parents must step in, annull this marriage and keep the 3 away from each other. Arjun needs a ton of growing up and yes he is selfish, foolish and I don't think obsessive simply because he is not trying to "get" Purvi whether or not she loves him. He was ready to leave when she told him she doesn't love him the first time around of the confession. He still had his head on his shoulders (somewhat) then. But now he is reduced to an immature boy having no regard for anything or anyone else except his lovelorn self and sacrificial goddess Purvi. Purvi has only proved that she dates back to the 15th century in this whole tyaag nonsense throwing away a man like he was a toy. I despise that too and I will never have sympathy for Ovi simply because of her psychotic behavior of suicide attempts. I personally have a complete disregard for people like that so maybe I am a little biased against her :P 😉

All in all, show is a mess and only hope is pining on this new character Visnu lala until they butcher him too and he is under the influence of his great big sanskaari family! :P 😛

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Oh well, since you so insist that the marriage needed to be annulled and I can't just accept a divorce without a fair try just because the morning after after the withdrawal symptoms, once realizes that drinking went too far'.I guess my suggestion would be a brief separation of the married couple, seen the movie, Balika Vaadu, 1976 story of a cute couple to learns to fall in love slowly'maybe the brief separation will make Arjun realize that what he did was serious and he needs to work on his marriage'

Btw, people do commit suicide'.because depression can be a very serious disease that needs to be treated with care'.I rather have a soft corner for these people'the disease is still untreatable and these people needs all the support they can get from people all around them'

I have seen the movie actually with my mom and I loved it too actually. I guess if you take the middle path of separation and somehow Arjun does realize the gravity of the situation, I still think the foundation is pretty distorted for it to be like any other marriage. Sure you agreed to it because you were in love with some woman but if it also means trying to love the woman who struck the deal too (both are equally guilty), it is hard to look past that. Again when Arjun jumped into this he did not know that OVi brought this suggestion to the table and hence Purvi agreed. So I stil stand by that he did what he did for Purvi but he only later found out about how cold heartedly Ovi made the deal for him over her mother. If Purvi and Arjun get all the blame, why should OVi not be subjected to a little analysying of her brutal character ? It isn;t easy to surpass such things and move on. I am old school to about marriage but I am also flexible about it if it means binding 2 people who have no hopes together. Even if Arjun tries, this is no normal arranged marriage, this is a marriage based on deciet and it is usually very hard to over look that and go onto loving or even RESPECTING the other person.

Asfar as depression is concerned, I am a psychologist by profession and I only know too well how the disease takes its course on a person. I also know the seriousness of being diagnosed with depression. However, I can guarantee that OVi was not depressed, it was a state of denial and noone in her family tried to help her through it.I have seen a ton of cases like these too where it is not depression, it is the patient not being able to accept a situation in their life and suicide is usually a result of that. Also, my sympathy is with her when Arjun unceremoniously broke up with her without giving her time, but to think that by blackmail and suicidal attempts if you achieve a marriage deal then you first need help with therapy and hence I do believe this marriage glorifies this whole aspect. I don't think either of them deserve each other but just because two people got married in some temple and ut sindoor and mangalsutra, this to be a lifelong committment without any soul in it is also wrong. And again, if thsi was a normal arranged marriage like before when the adults made this alliance without Purvi or OVi;s deal in between, I am sure Arjun and OVi would make a successfull married couple. But just being married to a person who is obviously in this relationship for all the wrong reasons (Arjun) and to someone who struck a deal for you like you could be bought (Ovi) this marriage would never work. Just my POV.