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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Punarvivah

In fact, Arjun should one of these days move to getting the marriage with Ovi dissolved and not let Purvi know about it. When she comes to harass him, he should say, Technically I have fulfilled all your demands of that night. Now I no longer owe you or her anything. Its my life. Move on.

Really, if Arjun does not love Ovi, why should he be and why is he staying married to her? Its his life and marriage too? Forget being with Purvi, he should first be free of a loveless relationship.

Exactly...if he isn't upto fulfilling his commitment to Ovi, why doesn't he starts a divorce proceedings instead of just running after Purvi now……he seems to have this two timing thingy in his genes…..yes, why isn't he trying...or maybe he knows he consented to this marriage...or is it a feeling of guilt of how he treated Ovi before...😕

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Kalapi ...i believe that he is staying married to Ovi without wanting to work on the marraige and not start immediate divorce proceedings with her only and only bcoz of his great love for Purvi . You see Purvi has commanded him to stay married to Ovi as she wants her mother's happiness .

It is much beyond two timing consciously ...it is being so besotted by a girl that you do ridiculous things for her .

You can kill for her , do a crime of passion for her , marry another girl at her bidding ...stay put in a loveless marraige and pathetically plead for a loving glance from her .

Arjun needs a firing .
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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He is not even angry with her for sacrificing him or using him .

His condition as a lover is so pathetic that he is at her feet begging her to take him back while she refuses .

Where is his sense of self respect ?

And thats why i said ...that self respect is not the priority of a person who fancies himself in love .
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Posted: 12 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

Kool, lovely commentary as usual. Have "leechblocked" IF so that I don't get distracted when I have a truckload of things to do 😳 so I'm not really up-to-date on the happenings in the forum. Anyways, just saw your post about wanting to know my views on the ar-vi2 situation, and here's my take on it. Probably late, since that was last episode, but oh well! Won't comment too much on purvi and ovi since everyone's said pretty much everything on that topic. So will focus on arjun.

While there is absolutely no doubt that Ovi started this mess, it is also a fact that purvi and arjun finished the process by executing it. And all 3 are equally to blame, no more no less. Even Arjun. If he had any brains at all, he should have put 2+2 together and got 4. If he didn't, he's both very stupid and utterly callous. If he didn't know Ovi's involvement in the whole thing while marrying her, then did he ever think if he was doing justice to Ovi by marrying her just to prove his love to Purvi? He already broke her heart without even taking the time to end the engagement with her directly, and then totally ignored her and flaunted his great love for purvi in her face. Did he think he could forget purvi and be a good husband to ovi in every way when he married her? I don't think so! He married her only and only thinking of purvi's demands, forgetting about his own feelings and Ovi's as well. If he did know while marrying Ovi that she was involved in the deal, he has no right to be angry with either purvi or ovi because ultimately he let himself be traded like a commodity. He lost his self-respect and identity when he agreed to do what purvi wanted without thinking about his own feelings about the whole thing.

Ovi doesn't even come into the picture here. Why should someone else think of your feelings when you yourself give a damn about them? He should have clearly told he won't marry ovi whether or not purvi married him. If he didn't have the guts to tell purvi to her face, he should have run at the first possible opportunity. Or called his dad or the police for help saying his fiance and her sister were holding him at "gunpoint" and making him do something he didn't want to. Instead, he waited patiently, getting ready while his fiance called his ex-fiance to come to the temple, got her ready and got married all the while looking at purvi. He was probably hoping purvi would stop him, she didn't. Sow hat does he do? Does he say he doesn't consider the marriage valid and walk off once he knows purvi is going through with it? No, he goes with ovi and takes blessings from everyone telling anybody who will listen that he didn't want to do it, but did for purvi's love. How childish and immature! None of the 3 people involved in this crazyness should even be allowed to date, leave alone marry. Well, the marriage has happened, and he has to abide by the rules of marriage since he himself validated it. He's not a victim, he's physically stronger than both women, he's supposed to be a smart businessman who knows the laws and who's seen the world. So he should stop acting like one, and take responsibilities for his own actions. That means sincerely trying to work on his marriage, which he consented to.

Coming to purvi caressing arjun's picture, I don't think that's wrong. I've always maintained that arjun and purvi should put their engagement and marriage off to give Ovi the time to get over her broken engagement instead of flaunting it in her face all the time. If the marriage hadn't been scheduled so soon after her engagement broke, she wouldn't have needed to try this extreme way to marry arjun. She needed time to get over arjun which she didn't get. The same applies to purvi. She needs time to get over arjun as well, and as long as she doesn't pursue arjun or marry somebody else just to get him to move on, she can do what she needs to get over him. She will not pursue arjun, she's after all proud of her principles and has proved she can do anything for her aai. Neither will she let arjun keep pursuing her, atleast I hope she will firmly tell him not to. I'm not sure about the second part though, she will probably agree to marry some random guy just so arjun will think she's taken. And that will be bad! Ovi at least has as much part to play in this mess as arjun and purvi, but the fourth wheel will be completely innocent and will be used just like Archana used Jaywant. Instead, purvi should start working again while she's trying to get over arjun, and she might find somebody who may not love her with the passion of Arjun, but will think the world of her nonetheless. Arjun needs time too to get over purvi, but he should use that time to sincerely try and get over her rather than going to her and telling her he can't forget her, only to be rebuffed.

Hey Sowmya dear…you see you got the 2+2 = 4 wrong😉. You see dear, since Arjun is a successful businessman, he only does 2+2 = 6😃, hey what use to him just to breakeven darling😆😆…any deal for him, has to be a profitable venture for him to make any sense na😃, only in this case the return was -2, he worked diligently at his deal😉😉, but the unexpected turn of events cause such a huge loss😃…oh dear🤣😆

As of Purvi caressing Arjun's picture…not sure, I do think Purvi needs time to move on…I tried putting myself in her shoes, but caressing a married man was getting on my prudish nature, I guess. Not sure, what she should do, probably cry a lot without caressing a picture, since it kinda feels not right….besides, she is a strong girl, who not only administered the arrangement but was a witness to the wedding as well, not to mention much more sanskari than we ever will be😃….so, am hoping she will be stronger than just touching a married man now….😉

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Posted: 12 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: Kalapi


Pooja,

Self-respect is actually very subjective'what is self-respect to one may or maynot be to other. For Ovi, obviously as of now, she doesn't feel that her self-respect isn't being trampled with'besides, what is self-respect to her, since she was so desperate to get Arjun.

See where is Arjun's self-respect now. He is a married man who is running after another woman who actually gave him up willing'.

I don't actually agree that the marriage was a mistake. How it was a mistake if it was done willing, intentionally and knowing. Nope, dear, it wasn't a mistake, all 3 did what they wanted to do and going in for a divorce just after the morning after when the first signs of 'marriage symptoms' set in, is cowardice to me'plain and simple'.if these 3 kids where not grownup enough to handle adult decisions and take responsibilities, why take those in the first place'they should have just ask adult for guidance'.it seems they want to enjoy the pleasures of adulthood without really living them when the going gets tough'.then what is the moral of this great serial???



I must agree with you on the self-respect clause. I do think it is often subjective and more so in the case of these 3 very different people. My take on the marriage is a little different. I do agree it was not a mistake in the sense that 3 of them knew what they were doing ( Or so they seem to portray) and never tried to consult the elders (for their own weird reasons). But I feel, these 3 have just displayed their immaturity. And this immaturity is what is hampering either of them to see the situation clearly and act accordingly. It was thoughtless decision and now they are regretting it. Ovi may not right now, but will soon regret it. This is why I think you can never force them to follow the "right" way as we may want them to. You may teach them what is right vs. wrong but you getting them to "follow" it is in noone's hands. And considering how they lack any sensibility in handling relationships of any sort, much less marriage, this is definitly going to spelll doom for all 3. If Arjun was mature enough, he would not have taken the route in the first place and since he proved how immature and lovesick he is, he is not going to exactly make this mariage work either. Same goes for the other two. THis in itself is indicative of what disastrous lives they are going to follow. Plus, noone wants the parents to even interfere. How will they ever learn? Hence, I believe it best to get out of this marriage. I wrote this on someone else's post but this is my take :

they might be 18+ but then they are still too young to know the right choices they are making. I don't think except Arjun, Purvi or Ovi have seen examples of what a marriage should be like. Even for Arjun, he hasn;t seen a marriage work, only the "love" his dad has for his mom. Same for the other two, they simply don't understand the meaning of marriage and for good reason. Their parents haven't been exactly the most ideal marital couple to follow. Purvi has seen her mother pine for her husband but that still comes under the category of "love". HAs she seen a sucessful marriage or a husband-wife relationship or the importance of this whole institution? Neither of the kids have seen it. Ovi, has seen Damo-Savita who I guess are the worst example to follow and she has seen her father stay silent while his mother instigated the kids against her mother. After that kind of a messed up image about marriage, I am not surprised all 3 of them treated it like child;s play.

However, they are kids, made a rash, immature and drastic decision without consulting anyone. But what were the family members doing? Arjun and OVi came married, to seek blessings, they heard Arjun pronounce loud and clear that he did not wish to do this, and was almost forced into it, and instead of giving this whole situation time to sink in, the adults decided " why waste all the money of the reception, let;s make it Arjun-Ovi and go ahead with announcing to the world about this "new" development". How ridiculous. I would suspend any such further functions and resolve to get to the core of this problem. As Manav ( most importantly), I would ask OVi whether she is ready to lead a life of a one-way marriage with a man who is clearly in love with someone else and seeems to have no resolve of getting over it. Does she have the capacity to wait eternally for him to love her back? If he did not love her for 18 years that they were best friedns, is he going to love her just because he was forced into this marriage? And as DK ( most importantly again), I would sit Arjun down and ask him if he can truly forget Purvi and move on in life with Ovi.

As parents, they did nothing except Archana reprimanding her daughter and then going in for the usual K ladies hug with tears, Manav did nothing except show a little anger and DK just nonchalantly accepted the whole thing like it was nothing. Only the bride got exchanged guy, no big deal. And then they had the nerve to disregard everything and go ahead with the reception.

Yes, parents do not need to interfere, but when you have been such poor examples of marital life yourselves, the least you can do is teach your kids about the importance of living it out with one person and making it work. As a parent, I would consider this marriage a Vegas mistake and annull it right away before the grand reception even took place. I am not saying I would advice Purvi and Arjun to then tie the knot, I would just keep 3 of them away from each other for a long long time. For Arjun-Purvi to realize the meaning of true love and life-long companionship, for Ovi to understand mutual love and for her to get over Arjun in a healthy way and for Arjun to realize the importance of marriage for the right reasons. As parents they all simply failed to do their job and now are reduced to bystanders while their kids mess up their lives in irreparable ways. JUst my POV. but rather than leading miserable lives throughout, better to rectify something that you did, without thought. To force them to follow through with their decision is as good as subjecting them to lifelong misery because neither can really move on going by the state of mind they all have.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000


taya i wish sumone smacks Teju 😆😆

They talk a lot about sanskaars in the show but it is my opinion that they don't have the foggiest idea of what they actually are .

This is betweeen adults . What Savita as a saas felt about bahu Archana is totally another issue ...she brought 3 grandkids up in an old age .

Archana gave her babies up with her own wish ...Savita was not even invilved in that decision .

Teju and Ovi should stay out of it and ask their great momma some questions .



Absolutely Kool...I feel this show is wrong at so many levels...the grandkids never fall between a mother and Grandmom's fight...I have never seen that happening in real life, the girls were raised by their Grandmom how could they forget that in an instance...absolutely wrong what Teju and Ovi are doing with Savita not to mention those mocking laugh with DAmo against Savita...very distasteful

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Posted: 12 years ago
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You said it so rightly Kalapi .

Somehow it [ the caressing] does not feel right . I really cannot explain more ...maybe its my prudish upbringing . 😆😆

However I said i am a dinosaur 😆 and really do not expect anyone to agree with my thoughts .

Besides i feel very very unsympathetic to Purvi . It was the way she accepted the deal and the way she executed it . And she is supposed to be sanskaari . Right ?😆😆

Ah well ...ignore me .😆😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Kools & Kalapi great posts...Hi Soumya so nice to see and read you always 🤗
"Reunited and it feels so good
Reunited 'cuz we understood
There's one perfect fit and sugar this one is it
We both are so excited 'cuz we're reunited, hey-hey
" by Peaches and Herb is the mahoul of Deshmukh home with ArMan and Teju😛
Teju is on her Momma-Papa reunited super high...She is not seeing the whole truth..Half A** truth can be dangerous but these young 18-19 yrs old think they know it all...but they sure dont..
I am from old school too...I am very modern but very traditional at the same time...Caressing photo is a NO NO in my book...Boundries have to be set...Purvi can think abt their memories sometimes as she also needs time to get over him and get him out of her system...But the urge to surge has to be curbed 😉😆
DK is typical man...Always in denial, oblivion to other's pain or desires...Remember how he treated Aashna...Never understood her needs...Thought travelling to diff countries and staying 7* hotels was the she wanted but she had other things on mind 😳
The only way this divorce can and will happen is if it is mutual or Ovi realizes and decides she does not want to be in this lovless-hateful (Arjun's side) relationship..Ready to let him go wether he goes back to the true deep love of 3 months Purvi who dumped him like a hot potatoe or last night's trash 😆
What was funny is 61 & 54 holding each other's hands walking up the temple in India...They are having the bliss of marriage but the young 18 & 22 yrs newly weds are shown to be deprived from the bliss.
I felt odd seeing ArMan holding hands at their age...This does not happen in India...May be in foreign country but surely not in Dombivali...😳
You are absolutely right Kalapi the way CVs showing Ovi-Tej put in the middle of Aaji-Aai and even Aaji-Ajoba's qualms is not a healthy thing to do...This is where the dysfunction starts..😡
Edited by Dabulls23 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Kools loved your commentary, especially the ones regarding Sage DK 😆!

As for Purvi, that girl has started getting on my last nerves. I watched a little part from the episode where Sulo hid the paper with Ovi-Arjun's wedding pic. Purvi was all happy and then she has this weird look on her face and starts mourning about her doomed relationship with Arjun, and I was just completely disgusted with the scene. Purvi's woefully sad faces are just becoming irritating to watch considering she was the one who got Arjun-Ovi married. She shouldn't feel bad now because like someone said she sacrificed Arjun for a higher cause. Arjun has just become a pathetic fool as well, chasing after Purvi, a girl who literally just sold him off. As for Ovi, she's wrong to want to obtain Arjun's love by bargaining with Purvi and then hoping he will realized the love he has for her, but at this point, I feel that Arjun is the biggest fool and wrongdoer. He's married and chasing after another girl. Even if he loves Purvi, shouldn't he consider her reputation and wonder what people would say if they see that she's being pursued by a married man , her sister's husband 😲? And I still don't understand why the TRPs rose!

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