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Posted: 13 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

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Tanya, frankly, I believe in communication in a relationship; especially in a marriage. And it has to be a two-way street. if the kids hate her and manav is responsible for that; then archana should tell him that's the reason she wants a divorce. If he wants her back, he will get the kids to love her. She can then decide if she wants to reunite with her family. If she tells him the reason clearly and he still doesn't do anything, believe me, I'll support archana. If she tells him she's divorcing him because sachu asked her to, and he didn't talk to sachu and got him to withdraw his request; I'll blame him for the divorce. Like manav told her clearly that she shouldn't force him to participate in purvi's wedding; that's communication. What's archana doing? She doesn't open her mouth; when she does; she says the wrong things.
you are right about this .Communication was always the problem in Arman's relationsip and that is why I guess they are on theri way to the divorce court ..
I think Archana has given up that manav will understand her pain ...she did tell him once that he has changed and is not the same Manav who understood her ...
She is wrong in keeping that brat sachin over and above everyone else .For that I will never defend Archaan .Sachin to me is extremely selfish and he is a dodgy lawyer ...Archana should have told Manav that he is supporting forged documents .

When archana told manav first after the 18 year leap that she did not send the divorce papers, he immediately went to talk to her asking her to come back; not caring that he was gatecrashing punni's engagement party. That was communication-- she told him she didn't sign the papers and he asked her to come back with him if she didn't. He reciprocated when she told him the truth. He didn't stay quiet and sign the divorce papers either way. Mind you, he could have. They were separated for a very long time and did not part in the happiest circumstances. But he loved her and immediately tried to rectify the situation. Does that seem like a man holding grudges? No, he's a man who doesn't know all that's happening around him and who doesn't know the decisions taken for him by others; including his wife and his mother. He will and can react only when he knows the truth. If he doesn't reach then, we can blame him all we want. Not now when he doesn't even know what to react to and how.
I think he did hold grudges for a good 18 years ...Never did he ever remembered one good thing that happened between them He never even told anything good about her to her daughters and that was the worst ever cruel thing he did to her ...
For the past 6 months he is seeing how much she loves her twins , how much she olerates the abuse from his mother and sachin and how she is trying to hold a difficult situation with Purvi ...she did not even fight with him when he hit her .
For his sake she does not even lets him argue with savita because she knows how much Manav loves his mother .
For 6 months , she has served all of them , taken care of them , sleeping i nthe kitchen , taking abuses ...and one thing he is sure of and that is that she is not after money ..I am shocked that he has not figured it out that her children's hate is the reason wh yshe cannot come back .
😲 Hope your back gets better soon. ANd no more debating from me for now, have to get back to my work!
Oh that was a joke ...I was just tired of sitting upright for so long .You hardly come o nthis thread so it is always a pleasure interacting with you ...

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Posted: 13 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam



Tanya, frankly, I believe in communication in a relationship; especially in a marriage. And it has to be a two-way street. if the kids hate her and manav is responsible for that; then archana should tell him that's the reason she wants a divorce. If he wants her back, he will get the kids to love her. She can then decide if she wants to reunite with her family. If she tells him the reason clearly and he still doesn't do anything, believe me, I'll support archana. If she tells him she's divorcing him because sachu asked her to, and he didn't talk to sachu and got him to withdraw his request; I'll blame him for the divorce. Like manav told her clearly that she shouldn't force him to participate in purvi's wedding; that's communication. What's archana doing? She doesn't open her mouth; when she does; she says the wrong things.

When archana told manav first after the 18 year leap that she did not send the divorce papers, he immediately went to talk to her asking her to come back; not caring that he was gatecrashing punni's engagement party. That was communication-- she told him she didn't sign the papers and he asked her to come back with him if she didn't. He reciprocated when she told him the truth. He didn't stay quiet and sign the divorce papers either way. Mind you, he could have. They were separated for a very long time and did not part in the happiest circumstances. But he loved her and immediately tried to rectify the situation. Does that seem like a man holding grudges? No, he's a man who doesn't know all that's happening around him and who doesn't know the decisions taken for him by others; including his wife and his mother. He will and can react only when he knows the truth. If he doesn't reach then, we can blame him all we want. Not now when he doesn't even know what to react to and how.

😲 Hope your back gets better soon. ANd no more debating from me for now, have to get back to my work!


Sowmya_jairam, i agree Manav doesn't know what all is happening around him, but as Tanya or someone said, he did think something wasn't adding up but he never bothered to find out. Same for Teju.
I believe in communication in marriages - it is so important, but this lack of communication is from both of them. When he was leaving for Canada, why did he send plane tickets through the woman who tried to kill Archana and who hated her guts? Why didn't he himself take them to Archana? In all the 18 years, he thought Archana had rejected him (the phony divorce papers) so for 18 long years he held a grudge against her. and allowed his daughters to hate her. In all the 18 years, Archana thought Manav rejected her for the same reason - phoney divorce papers. But she not only did not hold a grudge but loved and waited for him and taught her daughter to love him.
Yes Archana needs to tell him the truth. That is very very wrong. But how can a man watch his wife sleep on the kitchen floor and his daughters and mother abuse her (and also himself) if he is not holding a grudge?



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Posted: 13 years ago
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I have a feeling that Archana will ask Manav to let the girls stay with her one last time at the Karanjkar house , for a few days as then she wil lnever see them again ...
without savita and Sachin of course and that would be the best ever thing to happen ...The girls really need to spend time with Archana alone ..I know the wedding is also going on but who knows , maybe seeing all this and with Archana's loving support , Ovi will come to terms with it .Maybe that is how the girls will stop the divorce as they would want to have Archana as their mother .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tanyaz

I have a feeling that Archana will ask Manav to let the girls stay with her one last time , for a few days as then she wil lnever see them again ...

without savita and Sachin of course and that would be the best ever thing to happen ...The girls really need to spend time with Archana alone ..I know the wedding is also going on but who knows , maybe seeing all this and with Archana's loving support , Ovi will come to terms with it .Maybe that is how the girls will stop the divorce as they would want to have Archana as their mother .


That's an interesting thought that ARchu will ask for them to stay with her. Tanya, only you heard me when i said Ovi would stop the divorce, no one else said a word even that i was wrong.😆😆and now i saw some articles about it maybe the girls will stop it.

my back is ok 😉 but it's late and i'm heading for bed.

p.s. i haven't watched the whole episode but from your BU, it seemed like manav wasn't really yelling at Purvi but yelling about Archana..(at Purvi but his anger was towards Archana not towards Purvi) but i will know better when i see the facial and body languages in watching. Maybe i'm wrong.

night all...
p.s.s The new montage...the wedding pose...Ovi is standing there in a red dress with everyone looking at her...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: naava


Sowmya_jairam, i agree Manav doesn't know what all is happening around him, but as Tanya or someone said, he did think something wasn't adding up but he never bothered to find out. Same for Teju.
I believe in communication in marriages - it is so important, but this lack of communication is from both of them. When he was leaving for Canada, why did he send plane tickets through the woman who tried to kill Archana and who hated her guts? Why didn't he himself take them to Archana? In all the 18 years, he thought Archana had rejected him (the phony divorce papers) so for 18 long years he held a grudge against her. and allowed his daughters to hate her. In all the 18 years, Archana thought Manav rejected her for the same reason - phoney divorce papers. But she not only did not hold a grudge but loved and waited for him and taught her daughter to love him.
Yes Archana needs to tell him the truth. That is very very wrong. But how can a man watch his wife sleep on the kitchen floor and his daughters and mother abuse her (and also himself) if he is not holding a grudge?




Naava where is Archu sleeping in Kitchen floor now..she has her own room..She is not sleeping in the kitchen floor..In fact Manav and Sachu once were sleeping in the Sofa outside. I dont see Archu sleeping in Kitchen floor.She has her own room as per 23rd may epi where it was Arman epi with Archu burning her hand and Manav helping.She had her own room there.She still has her room and not sleeping in kitchen floor.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Tanya i agree with you that purvi and archu should stop running after manav but this is love and in love this is what happens

try as i may,
wish as i might,
to forget you,
is almost impossible.

and this is how much archana loves manav and purvi knows it...do you think archana and manav haven't try forgetting each other in 18 years...they have and failed and will keep failing in the future..yes archana has been through hell but what about their good memories..they are soulmates and will remain so...i guess i am just a hopeless romantic...but 18 years is way to long for anyone...

and about manav yelling at purvi...yes it true he shouldn't have...pity this kid she has loved and worship manav but to whoelse can he yell...he is very angry that archana asked for the divorce and tried to understand why-and knows she is not wrong deep down...and with ovi madness this guy is even more stress...when we are angry we always yell at our family but never to an outsider...i have done it before when my family does something i get angry faster then when an outsider might do it...to me, today manav has proven that he really consider purvi his family...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: arjunaluis

Tanya i agree with you that purvi and archu should stop running after manav but this is love and in love this is what happens

try as i may,
wish as i might,
to forget you,
is almost impossible.

and this is how much archana loves manav and purvi knows it...do you think archana and manav haven't try forgetting each other in 18 years...they have and failed and will keep failing in the future..yes archana has been through hell but what about their good memories..they are soulmates and will remain so...i guess i am just a hopeless romantic...but 18 years is way to long for anyone...

and about manav yelling at purvi...yes it true he shouldn't have...pity this kid she has loved and worship manav but to whoelse can he yell...he is very angry that archana asked for the divorce and tried to understand why-and knows she is not wrong deep down...and with ovi madness this guy is even more stress...when we are angry we always yell at our family but never to an outsider...i have done it before when my family does something i get angry faster then when an outsider might do it...to me, today manav has proven that he really consider purvi his family...


What a beautiful refreshing and positive post dear...Kudos to you 👏.You have seen the other side of the coin of Arman's relationship.Behind all this mess they have never been able to forget each other and reason being they are soul mates..Very well stated indeed..Loved your reasoning behind Manav's anger over Purvi...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jaishankar


What a beautiful refreshing and positive post dear...Kudos to you 👏.You have seen the other side of the coin of Arman's relationship.Behind all this mess they have never been able to forget each other and reason being they are soul mates..Very well stated indeed..Loved your reasoning behind Manav's anger over Purvi...



Thanks Jai...i just feel people seem to forget how much they love each other...arjun loves purvi a lot and to me manav loves archana as much...the only difference is arvi doesn't have savita and sulo (sometimes) in their life and have archana in it...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: arjunaluis

Tanya i agree with you that purvi and archu should stop running after manav but this is love and in love this is what happens

try as i may,
wish as i might,
to forget you,
is almost impossible.

and this is how much archana loves manav and purvi knows it...do you think archana and manav haven't try forgetting each other in 18 years...they have and failed and will keep failing in the future..yes archana has been through hell but what about their good memories..they are soulmates and will remain so...i guess i am just a hopeless romantic...but 18 years is way to long for anyone...

and about manav yelling at purvi...yes it true he shouldn't have...pity this kid she has loved and worship manav but to whoelse can he yell...he is very angry that archana asked for the divorce and tried to understand why-and knows she is not wrong deep down...and with ovi madness this guy is even more stress...when we are angry we always yell at our family but never to an outsider...i have done it before when my family does something i get angry faster then when an outsider might do it...to me, today manav has proven that he really consider purvi his family...


Even though i feel Manav has really hurt Archana and watches while others abuse her - about which i have a very difficult time, i have always supported their being together. I do believe they are soulmates or more and have a destiny together ...have written it many times. (i'm a hopeless romantic too) When they are "clicking" the chemistry is awesome and i really love Hiten in the role of Manav. Archu will always love Manav...and even though he doesn't act like he loves her 90% of the time, i know that Manav loves her deeply as well. They should be together. I want them to be together. But it's just hard for me to see Archana being blamed for everything that goes wrong in the relationship (or in the world), and it said that Manav is justified in treating her this way. That's why sometimes i feel i have to try to show that Manav has made just as many mistakes. Archana is really stupid to walk away from the man she has always loved and always will love. The man she has waited for for 18 years. Whose only happiness is in him. His only happiness is in her as well. But he has a lot of anger towards Archana, even though he allows his love for her to surface from time to time. My issue is that he needs to deal with that anger. It's why he stands by and says nothing when his mother and daughters say terrible things to her. It's not ok, in my opinion. It is perfectly ok to be angry with someone - it's ok to say you are angry, but then it has to be dealt with somehow. Manav doesn't deal with it.
About Purvi, i didn't have a problem with their interaction. When he was shouting he wasn't angry at her, he is angry at Archana, he doesn't understand why he is losing her when he wants to stay together. ...now. Then he needs to take his own advice and tell that to Archana and ask her point blank why she says she wants to stay together but wants a divorce cause she wants money. He and the universe knows its not true.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thanks for the update 😊

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