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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear shyamala ji thank you for calling my post logical 😆
And i read your replies to jyoti, jai and vilasini.
I agree that the observation depends on one's observational skills, maybe i was thinking too much so wrote that😃
Well wanted to write the proverb in English only but then thought of polishing my Gujarati language and so the proverbs. The proverb has a deep meaning or a meaning which stretches to years😆 and even i don't want to wait for so long. But i used it so that Arjun in order to promote his garage and mechanicgiri don't end up helping any Tom, Dick and Harry without taking their number or address. He should be patient and wait for the customers and if he wants to help any one from roadside then he should at least be careful. And yes when it comes to ekta serials 90 years can be traveled within a day without aging the character😆 (pun intended)

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Kesha,

Your detailed observations are very logical (please also see my replies to Jyoti, Jai and Vilasini, they echo and /or amplify on the points you have made here.

And yes, the chase was very filmy. The good thing about it was that in the rehearsals and the actual take, RD must have lost a bit of weight, which can do him nothing but good! But the recognition bit could very well happen; it is an instinctive thing, given a keen faculty for observation.Often one recognises people more from their back than anything else.

I loved the Gujarati proverbs, and I have filed them away as well for future reference. But my dear, as for "tipe tipe sarovar bandhai, kankre kankre paad bandhay", one can carry this comparison too far. You forget that Rome was built by several generations, not one. And I for one am not going to hang around for another 3 leaps to see a 90 year old Arjun and an 86 year old Purvi take the saat phere!

Shyamala


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thanks a lot.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Archana,

Why that is exactly why I (literally) burn the midnight oil (well, it is a CFL bulb, actually, but never mind), to give you a heads up, so that you can spot more things and look out for the subtle points, as you already know almost all of it.

I agree with you about Archana, it all comes down to the sentence you have highlighted. As I have written in one of the posts above, Sulochana has now done to Purvi what DK did to Ovi, the call that started all this mess. Do see my responses to Jyoti, Jai, Kesha and Vilasini, for they each cover different ground.

What disturbs me now, even more than Purvi's general mindset - for her mathrubhakti is a given that, as mentioned in my latest post, is something that we cannot change - is the way in which ARJUN is beginning to sound like a clone of Purvi. When he wrinkled his nose outside the police station (after being released), and said that she should still not have gone against her aai's commands, I felt like clouting him. He has had it too easy, this foolish boy, with an over-indulgent father who backs him unreservedly in every folly of his. If he had had a domineering and aggressive mother who felt, in a mirror image of Archana, that Purvi Deshmukh was too downmarket for her precious son, then Arjun would have been too busy trying to get round his Mom, and would have left Archana for Purvi to handle. Now, it seems to be a case of an empty mind becoming the devil's workshop!

As for Ovi, no Archu, she will not react to that scene the way you think she will.She will try to scratch Purvi's eyes out (she is Savita's granddaughter after all) and cling to Arjun like a...well , limpet is as good a word as any. There will be a shindy to dwarf the one Manav staged after Arjun confessed, and God knows how it will all end. If, as I have speculated in a reply above, she tries to kill herself afterwards, it is likely to make things impossible for our lovebirds, and this whether she succeeds or she fails.

Shyamala

Shyamala,
I confess...I do want our strong AK back. Am not sure what to make of this soft Arjun. I want the guy who told Purvi off during the rain scene and asked her what she wants...and to quit worrying abuot everyone else. I would be lying if I say that I am not a little disturbed by what has been happening so far. His soft manner is, frankly speaking, driving me nuts. The thing that does give me a little bit of hope, ironically, right now is Purvi and I am curious for your take on this.
Purvi desparately wants her Aai's blessings...but I get the feeling that things have slowly but subtly changed here. Before, Archana could do no wrong in Purvi's eyes...and she would have given up Arjun in a heartbeat and not thought twice...believing Archana to be correct always...and making me seriously doubt if she loved him all that much in the first place.
However, I feel things are changing. Arjun ending up in jail and saving Sulochana brought some change to Purvi's behavior. Her frustration and desperate inquiry to Sulochana...when will Archana come around?? was telling I think. Sulo should not have given her false hope...I agree...I couldnt find anything in Archana's behavior...after seeing for myself...that justifies any belief that she is hoping Arjun will win the challenge. I personally dont see it.
But Purvi bailing him out of jail...knowing that Archana would not like it...and openly admitting to him that she also cant stay away from him...and when he suffers she feels pain...was a first for her. I personally did a double take.
As far as expressing her emotions...she has never openly said something like that to him...ever. I also noticed that even though he was the one to hug her..she was still clinging to him...this time...for the first time...he was the one who actually broke it.
Defiance indeed...and so adroitly done as to make it seem like she regrets it---when in fact, there is no doubt that she would do the same thing all over again. She takes action...and apologizes for it later this time.
So to come back to it...what I think is this. If Arjun gets that 10,000 rupees and goes to Archana with it----and she goes back on her word, Purvi will not stand for it. I think that will push her to the breaking point because the blinders are already very slowly but surely coming off her eyes.
If Ovi goes nuts and tries to committ suicide...I agree with you in that Archana and Manav will never come around to accepting Purvi and Arjun. But I still dont see Arjun marrying Ovi regardless. Yes the guilt will be there...but I also dont think Arjun and Purvi will be blind to her craziness. Arjun proved this by finally losing patience in the garage and telling her off plainly and clearly...his reaction to her allegations...where literally "What?? Are you crazy?" types. That blank check episode with Purvi also was an eye-opener. It actually accomplished something very real...it made Purvi realized that Ovi does not truly love Arjun since she was dumb enough to try to bribe Purvi and put a price tag on him! It also brought home to Purvi that she is obsessed to the point of craziness...which is why Purvi herself was worried about Ovi after that interaction. I dont think Purvi is going to say "oh god, we broke Ovi ma'ams heart and now she is crazy...Arjun should marry her after all."
Purvi's behavior and perceptions are slowly changing. And I for one, am actually hoping that Archana shows her true feelings and does not accept Arjun...even after he makes the 10,000 rupees. I feel Purvi is already having doubts...and Sulo is too...she has already said it to her face...that Archana is not really concerned about Purvi's feelings...more about Ovi's. For Arjun, if he finishes what he was told to do, and wins the challenge- and she still doesnt come around- he will also realize there is more to this than meets the eye. There is no point in continuing along a path if it doesnt do you any good. Arjun can then go back to being his old Kirloskar self...with the full approval of Purvi, Sulo, and his dad...and Archana can go...(leaving this unsaid)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

PR today was a curious mix of disparate elements that somehow made turned out quite well. If we had been talking scents, I would have chosen pot pourri. There were, ad seriatim, the much anticipated DK-Purvi meeting, Arjun chasing the mystery man across train tracks, the usual inane bickering between Savita and Archana, an Archana-Arjun scene, the gentle conversation between Sulochana and Purvi that was featured in yesterday's precap, and finally the precap, with Ovi preparing to make a barefoot pilgrimage to the Siddhivinayak temple on the maha sankarshti day, to gain her heart's desire ( no prizes for guessing what that would be). Whew!

DK-Purvi: This encounter was as charming as one would have wanted it to be, but alas, all too brief. DK comes from Arjun's place straight to the Karanjkars', enquires after Sulochana, thanks Purvi for helping Arjun, and departs. It was vintage DK, and his indulgent smile - when Purvi says 'Arjun' by mistake, bites her tongue, corrects it to 'Arjun Sir', and blushes vividly when DK nods his assent - is mirrored in Sulochana's. The two of them be smile at each other in perfect understanding as DK places his hand on Purvi's head and blesses her in true paternal style. Sulochana would obviously be delighted to see his tacit acceptance of Purvi as his bahu-to-be; one road block the less, she must be thinking.

Arjun and the mystery man: For once, a previous thread is rather neatly linked up here. A flashback shows how Arjun chances upon this mysterious stranger ' all muffled in a long black raincoat with a hat pulled down low over his face, like the villain in a 1960s thriller ' stranded with his stalled car in the rain, quite near Arjun's garage. He has a strong Bihari accent, plus a dark brown mark, like a scar or a birthmark, on the left rear side of his neck. When Arjun first offers to repair the car, and then sees that it has to be taken to the garage, the chap gives Arjun the keys, and says he has to go on an urgent errand and will return for the car. Now, apart from his generally shady air, he does not ask for the name and address of the garage, which should have been enough to warn Arjun that something was fishy. The chap was obviously trying to abandon the car, with the kidnappee in the boot, and make his getaway, but our boy is too nave and does not smell a rat.

The day after this incident, Arjun spots the same man in railway ticket counter queue, where he is buying a ticket to Patna and talking loudly on his mobile to one Yadav. He recognises him, especially by the mark on his neck, and vice versa. The mystery man bolts and Arjun chases him, in true filmy style, down railway platforms and up & down flyovers, in and out of local trains, and even across the tracks as a train thundered between the two and I held my breath. Arjun is fast becoming street savvy, and far tougher than before; one cannot imagine Arjun Kirloskar giving such vigorous and at times dangerous chase to a crook.

Arjun then goes to the police station and gives all the information he has about this guy to an appreciative inspector, who arranges a dragnet operation at various railway stations. I doubt whether this would have worked even with a sketch of the suspect, which is not available, but Arjun's recognizing this chap without the shadow of a doubt is valuable to the police, as it shows that the kidnappers are still in Mumbai and have links with Bihar.

Equally important, to my mind, was the fact that the kidnapper too recognized Arjun, and he knows that he works in a nearby garage. He would feel that as the sole eye witness who could identify him, Arjun would be a danger to him. This is definitely a matter of concern for the future.

I have little patience with and even less interest in the kind of inane bickerings that Savita specializes in, and so I am leaving that out. Let us move on to the Archana-Arjun face off.

Archana-Arjun: Arjun comes to enquire after Sulochana's health, and both she and Purvi beam happily at their favourite young man. He says all the correct things about Bappa looking after his bhakts (ie Sulochana) and so on, which are bound to endear him even further to his already besotted grand-MIL-to-be. Turning down an invitation to sit down as he is due at the garage, he turns to go.

And bingo! Standing right inside the door, arms crossed, and looking like the 'before' picture in an ad for antiacids, is Archana. The poor boy blenches, and one cannot but sympathise with his plight, stuck between his nemesis (or so she must seem to him by now) and the door. He is probably looking out for the painted fingernail to be pointed at him once again, and bracing himself for the tirade to come.

In the event, the decibel level is almost normal for a change. Archana, after having expressed her gratitude for all that Arjun had done to save her mother's life, then launches into her real message for him. She does not, she asserts at least three times, want to leave the ehsaan (literally 'gratitude', but here used for 'obligation') he had done her unrequited, and she wants to pay her debt to him by reimbursing him the expenses he had incurred at the hospital.

Arjun's always mobile and sensitive face registers dismay and a sharp twinge of hurt, as he sees the sentiments being so demeaned and his good deed reduced to a cash transaction. Sulochana's face shows open disapproval, but she says nothing, while Purvi's eyes brim over in sudden grief.

Arjun tries to refuse, saying that he had only done his duty, but he is relentlessly overborne by Archana, who refers to the money he spent as being his mehnat ki kamaayee (the fruits of his labour.As I had noted yesterday, Archana and the CVs seem to be of one mind as to what qualifies as mehnat ki kamaayee).

At this point, curiously enough, the unconcealed disapproval on Sulochana's face changes into a half smile. Arjun finally mentions the incredibly low amount of Rs.430/-, and while I was expecting him to correct himself and add a zero, Archana has handed over the notes and he is gone.

Sulochana upbraids Archana for hurting Arjun's feelings in this manner, an accusation that she refutes. But it is what she says then that is really significant, since it reveals her current mindset. "Kaun apne aur kaun paraye, logon ko yeh batana zaroori ho jata hai" (It becomes necessary to show 'people' who are ours and who are outsiders). Then comes the coup de grace that crushes poor Purvi . There is, Archana pronounces in a voice of doom, a major faraq (difference or gap) between " his family and ours", and she wants this faraq to be maintained. The oracle, having spoken, departs.

Sulochana-Purvi: Purvi turns to her SOP and plonks herself down on her bed in tears. It is now that the reason for Sulochana's sudden access of cheerfulness is revealed. Because of Archana's referring to the money Arjun had spent in the hospital as his mehnat ki kamayee, and insisting on reimbursing it, she reasons, Archana is actually helping Arjun by restoring his savings to their original level, and thus making it that much easier for him to meet her challenge. (The lines here are the same as in the precap yesterday).

This much is a matter of fact. But her extrapolation from this, and her asserting that whatever Archana might say to the contrary, subconsciously she wants Arjun to win, is quite dubious, and looks like nothing so much as wishful thinking on Sulochana's part. Wishful thinking seems to be a family trait, for Purvi perks up immediately, undoubtedly seeing a shaadi ka mandap (wedding pavilion) on the horizon already. She proceeds to hug her aaji, exulting over how well her aaji understands her aai, while I was lamenting this sudden fit of self-delusion.

This, and the rush of relief at being forgiven by Archana that was reflected in her face as she hugged her aai yesterday, show that with Purvi, the umbilical cord (figurative of course, as she is an adopted child) that ties her to her aai is still very firmly in place, and I suspect that there is nothing Purvi, or Arjun, can do to sever it. She can no more exist without basking in her mother's approval than a sunflower can do without sunlight. It is going to be a long haul ahead for our boy.

My take: Whatever Sulochana might fondly imagine and whatever she might tell Purvi, to my mind, the fact remains, as of now, that Archana does NOT want Arjun and Purvi to get married. Regardless of what she might present, to herself and to the others, as her reason for this determined nyet (No!) - that Arjun is undependable and thus not 'fit' for Purvi (an assertion that is being eroded, even in her own eyes, day by day) - the real reason, which Archana might not be acknowledging even to herself, is Ovi.

Precap: And that reason, it was made clear in today's precap, is not going anywhere any time soon. Ovi, having been thoughtlessly assured by Savita that a barefoot pilgrimage to the Siddhivinayak temple on the occasion of the mahasankarshti (which was falling that very day) would fulfil all that her heart desired, announces that she is going to make this pilgrimage. A dumbfounded Savita, alarmed by the results of her faux pas, and Teju regard Ovi with unconcealed dismay. As for us, we can sit up straight in anticipation tomorrow, for high drama lies ahead.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

PS: I note that some of us admire Arjun with stubble on his face, but I am not one of them. Today, he looked very nice and fresh-faced with a clean shave, for all the world like a well fed pussycat. That is the way I prefer him, and not looking like a mawaali!

Awesomee awesoomee postt...👏👏👍🏼
Agree iwd u totally...
And seem u r a gujarati...Is it??
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Posted: 13 years ago
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[ Wishful thinking, indeed, Abhi...But, it is just not yours, we are all with you on this..If only it were that simple 😍..
Rithvik is a HANDSOME DUDE, he has his cuteness in this avatar too..open, simple, modest, endearing...But, for me Arjun will always be the best when he is ARJUN KIRLOSKAR...What can I do, I like arrogant, khadoos men 😃😳...
Ofcourse JD,
Totally agree that much prefer the charismatic businessman AK...i meant personality of RD- the real Rithvik- as we see in the SBB segments that we so love- the energy, enthusiasm, the go-getter attitude and the funny side of him...did not mean the personality in this new avtaar...i do hope he goes back relatively soon to the old AK that we all know and so dearly love...
Arch, you also seem to be missing AK in that older version...
Let us see what new twists are in store from our Soham...but i am not sure whether he will re-unite the D's and the K's or wreak more havoc...before it all gets better...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: archverma10

For Arjun, if he finishes what he was told to do, and wins the challenge- and she still doesnt come around- he will also realize there is more to this than meets the eye. There is no point in continuing along a path if it doesnt do you any good. Arjun can then go back to being his old Kirloskar self...with the full approval of Purvi, Sulo, and his dad...and Archana can go...(leaving this unsaid)

to HELL...(which is with her crazy D-Family)...there, I completed it for you...😛.. you are too polite to do it...😃
If that happens, we will definitely see the Arjun Kirloskar Back...!! No Worries .. Because, he has never lost a deal !!! The thought of losing Purvi will bring him back with a bang !!
I am with you in every sentence that you wrote here, Archana...Great Job !!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Shyamalaaa *hopes that you dont get annoyed with the extended aaa's to your name. 😳*

Brilliant post again with your views and comments spot on ! ⭐️

I'm not writing this everytime now. I'm not good with words or with the usage of flowery language hence I'm cutting it short with just a trademark statement 'Keep it up and give us more of these everyday 😃'


DK-Purvi: Sulochana would obviously be delighted to see his tacit acceptance of Purvi as his bahu-to-be; one road block the less, she must be thinking.

Waaayy to go Sulo aaji. Being the oldest we expect this from you and you HAVE TO be with ArVi despite all the obstacles and troublemakers. Read: The entire Kara-Mukh household.

Arjun and the mystery man:

Arjun is fast becoming street savvy, and far tougher than before; one cannot imagine Arjun Kirloskar giving such vigorous and at times dangerous chase to a crook.

Ooh, I love it when our hero is back to his action form. Be it in his office or here when he left everything to catch this crook. And like you said later in your post, he looked nice and clean and not like some gunda-mawaali. 😆 But he has lost the old attitude after dating Purvi. Come on Arjun ! You're the only one who's not officially a part of KaraMukh, you have to live up to the expectations of being DK's son. 😆

Archana-Arjun:

And bingo! Standing right inside the door, arms crossed, and looking like the 'before' picture in an ad for antiacids, is Archana. The poor boy blenches, and one cannot but sympathise with his plight, stuck between his nemesis (or so she must seem to him by now) and the door. He is probably looking out for the painted fingernail to be pointed at him once again, and bracing himself for the tirade to come.

Haahaha he must be like, 'Ek problem khatam nahin hoti ki duri chali aati hai'. Read : Archana. 😆 And he's the one who's stuck between KaraMukh. Not even Archana because she herself chooses to sacrifice when it isnt even required or not even worth it. Arjun must learn how to speak his mind out even if the others get hurt because these people really need to be taught to stop making a mountain out of a molehill. 🥱

Arjun tries to refuse, saying that he had only done his duty, but he is relentlessly overborne by Archana, who refers to the money he spent as being his mehnat ki kamaayee (the fruits of his labour.As I had noted yesterday, Archana and the CVs seem to be of one mind as to what qualifies as mehnat ki kamaayee).

Hahahaha exactly. Man, its difficult to find a job with even the best of qualifications.😡 And that is clearly why skilled labour has much higher returns because it does require the skill. So please, dont make a mockery of the other jobs where you need good education or a list of degrees. You have NO idea about the hardwork that goes into getting a good degree. Kuch bhi, writer jee !! 🤣

"Kaun apne aur kaun paraye, logon ko yeh batana zaroori ho jata hai" (It becomes necessary to show 'people' who are ours and who are outsiders). Then comes the coup de grace that crushes poor Purvi . There is, Archana pronounces in a voice of doom, a major faraq (difference or gap) between " his family and ours", and she wants this faraq to be maintained. The oracle, having spoken, departs.

Well I am surprised that Archana's saying this. Did she think of all the apna-paraya difference while adopting Purvi ?

Sulochana-Purvi:

This much is a matter of fact. But her extrapolation from this, and her asserting that whatever Archana might say to the contrary, subconsciously she wants Arjun to win, is quite dubious, and looks like nothing so much as wishful thinking on Sulochana's part.

Yes yes Sulo has to understand that now. Archu's really naive to give such a challenge to Arjun. I expected something more heroic and better 😕 But when time progresses, I'm quite sure that Archu will give her thumbs up to their relationship. 😃


My take: Whatever Sulochana might fondly imagine and whatever she might tell Purvi, to my mind, the fact remains, as of now, that Archana does NOT want Arjun and Purvi to get married. Regardless of what she might present, to herself and to the others, as her reason for this determined nyet (No!) - that Arjun is undependable and thus not 'fit' for Purvi (an assertion that is being eroded, even in her own eyes, day by day) - the real reason, which Archana might not be acknowledging even to herself, is Ovi.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

PS: I note that some of us admire Arjun with stubble on his face, but I am not one of them. Today, he looked very nice and fresh-faced with a clean shave, for all the world like a well fed pussycat. That is the way I prefer him, and not looking like a mawaali!


Love

Rachel 🤗


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Originally posted by: jdronamraju

to HELL...(which is with her crazy D-Family)...there, I completed it for you...😛.. you are too polite to do it...😃
If that happens, we will definitely see the Arjun Kirloskar Back...!! No Worries .. Because, he has never lost a deal !!! The thought of losing Purvi will bring him back with a bang !!
I am with you in every sentence that you wrote here, Archana...Great Job !!!

hahaha😆 thanks Jyothi...good to know you and I are on the same page...even to the point where we can complete each other's sentences!!!!
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It is the sisterhood of the PAP Brigade !! Got be in SYNC 😃
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Originally posted by: jdronamraju

It is the sisterhood of the PAP Brigade !! Got be in SYNC 😃

Amen girl... Amen!

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