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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Dabulls - No problem. I don't mind that you answered the question. Thanks for clarifying.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great POV from personal experiences. When we comment on the serial, we comment based on our knowledge, experiences and what we have seen or heard from others around us. We place our judgement based on our perspective.
Varsha, you have given great points based on real issues. I have seen my own mother with my SIL and I have also seen the same ARMAN behaviour between my brother and SIL. My brother's inclination towards his ILS is the same as Manav towards K's. In the end, there is nothing but heartbreak left with the family of the son.
This is so much of a reality and is shown on PR as well. Manav dished out money for Archu's family but here he also did the same with his own mother who spent lavishly with Rasika. Savita is equally stupid and foolish because she knew and had bad experiences with Rasika but she still went to her to cry on her sholders and confided in her. Savita has always been materialistic and a grabber. Remember what she got from manjusha before ARMAN's wedding? Varsha, Savita is no saint
Edited by Tulsey - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tulsey

Great POV from personal experiences. When we comment on the serial, we comment based on our knowledge, experiences and what we have seen or heard from others around us. We place our judgement based on our perspective.

Varsha, you have given great points based on real issues. I have seen my own mother with my SIL and I have also seen the same ARMAN behaviour between my brother and SIL. My brother's inclination towards his ILS is the same as Manav towards K's. In the end, there is nothing but heartbreak left with the family of the son.
This is so much of a reality and is shown on PR as well. Manav dished out money for Archu's family but here he also did the same with his own mother who spent lavishly with Rasika. Savita is equally stupid and foolish because she knew and had bad experiences with Rasika but she still went to her to cry on her sholders and confided in her. Savita has always been materialistic and a grabber. Remember what she got from manjusha before ARMAN's wedding? Varsha, Savita is no saint

Tulsey dear no where I have or any post here has said Savita is a saint...I have written abt Savita when she has done wrong...Savita was not always materialistic...She has worked hard in raising family...When one is poor and living with hardship why would they not want to be rich and have a comfortable life??? She did not steal, cheat, beg or borrow from any one...She did not ever pressure manav to be rich...But when he did become successful, rich she did spend money lavishly...Mind you not 74+ lacs of rupees...It was well spent on Archana and her family...Archana did not earn any of that...It was Manav who did...Yes Archana and their kids have first right to the money but so does Savita as his mother..
Savita went to talk to Vandu and not Rasika on that one lonely, hurtful, depressing night to confide into...Rasika lied that Vandu not avail due to sleeping or what ever reason and took advantage of vulnerable at a low emotional level Savita..Those are the facts...
If Savita is no saint than neither is Archana or Sulo to that matter IMHO 😳...She and Manav's stupid decisions and lop sided relationships has made Savita insecure...She would have been happy and loving MIL had Archana not pushed her family down Manav and their married life..
Anything I write is not from my personal experience...I am writing because of what I have observed...I would never put myself in a situation where Savita is...if my son wanted to adopt new parents in his ILs all power to him..Than he cant flip flop...You make your choice and live with it...Goes for him and I both...ArMan both have made many stupid decisions which has ruined their own married life...ArMan did Not have proper respect, understanding and knowing limitations in their marriage...What put a dagger in the coffine -ended their marriage or relationship was Archana's taking Manav to court for chawl walas and handing Soham to Psycho Varsha dispite of Manav's numerous warnings...
We can blame Savita all we want...But it is upto the two married people who let any one in be it Savita or Karanjkar Pests..😳
Edited by Dabulls23 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Tulsey dear no where I have or any post here has said Savita is a saint...I have written abt Savita when she has done wrong...Savita was not always materialistic...She has worked hard in raising family...When one is poor and living with hardship why would they not want to be rich and have a comfortable life??? She did not steal, cheat, beg or borrow from any one...She did not ever pressure manav to be rich...But when he did become successful, rich she did spend money lavishly...Mind you not 74+ lacs of rupees...It was well spent on Archana and her family...Archana did not earn any of that...It was Manav who did...Yes Archana and their kids have first right to the money but so does Savita as his mother..
Savita went to talk to Vandu and not Rasika on that one lonely, hurtful, depressing night to confide into...Rasika lied that Vandu not avail due to sleeping or what ever reason and took advantage of vulnerable at a low emotional level Savita..Those are the facts...
If Savita is no saint than neither is Archana or Sulo to that matter IMHO 😳...She and Manav's stupid decisions and lop sided relationships has made Savita insecure...She would have been happy and loving MIL had Archana not pushed her family down Manav and their married life..
Anything I write is not from my personal experience...I am writing because of what I have observed...I would never put myself in a situation where Savita is...if my son wanted to adopt new parents in his ILs all power to him..Than he cant flip flop...You make your choice and live with it...Goes for him and I both...ArMan both have made many stupid decisions which has ruined their own married life...ArMan did Not have proper respect, understanding and knowing limitations in their marriage...What put a dagger in the coffine -ended their marriage or relationship was Archana's taking Manav to court for chawl walas and handing Soham to Psycho Varsha dispite of Manav's numerous warnings...
We can blame Savita all we want...But it is upto the two married people who let any one in be it Savita or Karanjkar Pests..😳

Hi Varsha, please don't read me wrong. I did not say that it was your personal experience. By me saying that in my opening statement spoke about a lot of members who have thought that everything was Archu's fault. Our comments are our POV and our POV are based on some assumptions and expectations.
When we disect our own thinking on Savita and Archana's wrong doings, the rudiments of thought behind their wrong deeds falls down to misunderstandings and vulnerablility. we all know that when Savita does not like anyone...she will go to any height to destroy that person.
Savita got bribed from manjusha, she took Archu's gahene (gold) when she saw her at some holy shrine, Savita lied left and right to Manav regarding divorcing Archu. Then she went to top heights to corrupt young Sachin's mind against Arch, finally she managed to get rid of Archana for 18 years. She is continuing to do so.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Soapwatcher something very major which happened prior to FD or Rasika's ear poisoning..Here are the leading events to Savita's insecurities in her own home...Thanks to ArMan and making Deshmukh house a Karanjkar home..

1. Manav brought Sulo in Deshmukh home w/o asking Archana or Savita which he should have...Especially Savita as she is the owner of the home...But that is not the point because Savita welcomed her with open arms. Offered to share her bedroom, jewelery, saree etc...She was fair..
I precisely remember the moment when Savita felt outsider in her own home..18000 rs. which Archana decided to let Sulo hold it instead of trusting Savita with it..Which Savita saw and heard Archana tell her mom.
2nd..Same Rs. 18000 which was given to Sulo to hold and protect was stolen by Rassi ...But what did ArMan do when Savita asked for it? They lied abt it that it was some bonus which he had gotten...Savita is no dummy. Obviously Rasika played well and took good advantage of the situation.
3rd. When Vandu asked for money to help with Ajit's business the same day Varsha came and grabbed money out of Archana's hand to buy some jewelry which was on sale...Vandu's need for money was for survival where Varsha's need for money was to buy luxury..A rchana has always put her family over Vandu..Pls dont give me argument abt her being married to Ajit the loser...Remove Ajit from equasion...Savita as a mother has all the right to help her daughter...Vandu had never ever asked for a penny from her brother or mom before...First time and what happens Archana chooses her sister over Manav's sister.
Archana and Manav both took Savita for granted during that time and Sulo took over...Actually it became Karanjkar home...Varsha moved in for some days..
Than came time with the FDs...Yes agree Archana never wanted FDs in her name...She always told Manav to get some in Savita's name...But by this time enough had happened for making Savita feels taken for granted and outsider in her own house..Rest is history..
People have to remember all turn of events in the sequence how they happened for Savita to feel how she feel...I am not saying it is right but not saying she is wrong in feeling hurt or neglected.
Sulo had over stayed her welcome in that house...She should have known to remain in Vridhashram and not move in with Deshmukhs no matter how much manav imposed or how many kasams he gave.
If I am staying with my married son or daughter it is my responsibility to know my boundries.-limitations..Remember Manav-Archana were living in Savita-Damo's home...Not Savita living with ArMan in their house..
Hope it makes sense...if I am wrong pls correct me but I think my memory is right 😃

Ur explanation and memory both are awesome! Thank you! I just couldnt understand why. I didn't really watch the episodes at that time of the show so that's why I was wondering. l agree. Sulochana should've maintained boundaries. Archana should've preferred Vandu over Varsha not only because Vandu needed money for financial purposes and Varsha for shopping but becase Vandu proved to be a better person then Varsha.
Varsha always acted like a bitch to Archana. I mean was it Archana's fault Varsha got an abortion? Was it her fault Varsha can't have a baby anymore? She could've clarified with Manav at the adoption agency to not tell the people that she had an abortion. Mistakes happen. Learn to forgive and forget.
She shoves Archana down when she was trying to apologize to her even though she was pregnant.
She didn't lend Manav some emergency money when Archana was in pain and Archana had a miscarriage.
And she takes money from her for shopping??? Really??? Can't her husband give her some money??
Varsha is probably the most ungrateful person ever!! Even to her sister!
Also Archana's mahaanta really frustrates me sometimes! She doesn't show maturity when she is suppose to.. Her maturity doesn't come out until pani sar se uppar chad jaatha hai..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi Varsha dear
I hope that you don't misunderstand me. I love you dear sister and can never hurt your feelings.😭😭😭 I have known you long enough to understand your POV's etc. I have never opposed your messages because your words carry a lot of good weight. I am really sorry Varsha if my words got perceived the wrong way.
Please 😃.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tulsey

Hi Varsha dear
I hope that you don't misunderstand me. I love you dear sister and can never hurt your feelings.😭😭😭 I have known you long enough to understand your POV's etc. I have never opposed your messages because your words carry a lot of good weight. I am really sorry Varsha if my words got perceived the wrong way.
Please 😃.

Are yaar Tulsey we go waaay and long back...I would never misunderstand you or get offended by you having your views...last night I meant to answer your post but something happened t my left eye and got swallen...It still is...And this morning I woke up late and used my Ipad b4 leaving for my walk...so could not answer...My eye is still the same..You beat me to responding to your last post...😳
Pls do not think anything out of this..We both respect and appreciate each other's views and never have any problems with it...Its just these are silly character and not real people...But we discuss real issues.
No need to say sorry for having your views...Pls that would hurt me more 😳 I love and respect you my friend-sistay...So with that here is a 🤗
PR-Archana-Savita will come and go...A good friend will always be there...😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tulsey

Hi Varsha, please don't read me wrong. I did not say that it was your personal experience. By me saying that in my opening statement spoke about a lot of members who have thought that everything was Archu's fault. Our comments are our POV and our POV are based on some assumptions and expectations.

When we disect our own thinking on Savita and Archana's wrong doings, the rudiments of thought behind their wrong deeds falls down to misunderstandings and vulnerablility. we all know that when Savita does not like anyone...she will go to any height to destroy that person.
Savita got bribed from manjusha, she took Archu's gahene (gold) when she saw her at some holy shrine, Savita lied left and right to Manav regarding divorcing Archu. Then she went to top heights to corrupt young Sachin's mind against Arch, finally she managed to get rid of Archana for 18 years. She is continuing to do so.

Are reading wrong ka sawal hi nahi hai...We go way and long back dear...I agree with you not everything is Archana's fault...Manav, Savita has played part too...But but Archana and Karanjkars have played bigger part...Manav sucking upto Archu & Karanjkar is the main problem here..
Yes agree MU and not having mutual respect is the cause of many things going wrong...Making wrong decision at wrong time too has played alot..
Abt the underlined part...I started watching PR dec 2009 and not from the beginning? I am not sure...So I cant say I watched the part you metioned...All I know is the whole thing was started by Archana's family be it Manju or Sulo or whoever...Reading somewhere abt Satyanarayan puja...Kools or even Bhalla may be able to shed some light on that part...But sad Kools have left..😭
Archana has not made good judgement calls regarding most of the decisions she made after marriage..Also she let her emotions be controlled by her family...lopsided relationships between karanjkars VS Deshmukhs..
We respect each other by having our different views...I never take offense to that...These are fictional characters...Real issues I like to discuss..
I have spoken against Manav, Savita, Archana, Sulo, Varsha, FBD, Damo and even against Sweet Satish when he became wimp...Not spared any one and let them go scot free..
With that Pls do not think I was hurt or took your post the wrong way OKIE 😃
Edited by Dabulls23 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dabulls23

BTW all who are in support of Feminism and Archana's support is fine because when we are young our focus is different

But wait until they become MILs focus will change...They all will have same feeling or hurt as Savita..
Its all relative-subjective to where u are in your life-journey..
R u young and single
R u young and married with no or young children
R u a well matured married woman with a married son as well as married daughter??
Answers will change with each Q..
Nothing wrong in female rights but so do male species have right and their families..
Girls & their families may rock but so do boys and their families..
BTW when Ajit had turned positive and was wrkng with Manav in money lending business, Manav chose to take other dude's word over Ajits when money was missing...That was the beginning of Ajit's rivelry and anger against Manav...Manav was wrong and he should have apologized and fixed things with ajit once he found out Ajit was not the culprit...They were not only friends or working together but also related by marriage..
But if this was Archana's family member Manav would have forgiven and forgotten everything...Look at him trusting Varsha the psycho-child kidnapping sister in his house...But not ajit the gambler...Lopsided relationships and unfair treatments for karanjkars VS Deshmukhs..
House money was not for Ajit...Place could have been bought or rented in Vandu's name...But Archana decided to make that decision on her own w/o Manav or Savita's knowledge or consent..


So everything in sasural is related to MIL, so DIL should take all BS from her...coz she has bear the brunt in her family...?
As Archana has done all years since marriage...the most artificial character written...a normal person would never have bear such torture and would have left...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sudha100


So everything in sasural is related to MIL, so DIL should take all BS from her...coz she has bear the brunt in her family...?
As Archana has done all years since marriage...the most artificial character written...a normal person would never have bear such torture and would have left...

When did I say everything in sasural is related to MIL and DIL should take BS...SHow me one sentence...
yes I agree with you abt Archana character written so artificial or unreal that no body in their right mind can relate to her...I am a woman and I can't relate to her or her decision making...

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