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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ok, Can anybody tell me...? Why does Savita hate Archana again?
Ok, First I remember she used to hate her when Manav and Archana first got married because Sulochana slapped Manav during their wedding...
Then, She hated her even more when her son Sachin died because Archana's vohni called the cops on Manav family.
Then, She started liking her again when Shravani was pregnant and Archana and Manav were getting a divorce for Shravani.
Then, She started hating her again when Archana and Manav finally decided to stay together and Shravani decided to leave home with little Sachin.
Then, She got Sachin but still kept on hating Archana.
Then, They got rich and She started liking Archana again.
After this is why I don't understand why she started hating Archana again.
The whole chaul incident... causing misunderstanding... custody problems... convincing ovi, teju, and sachu to hate her... WHY??? Does she have a valid reason?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Rasika got involved and started poisoning Savita's mind, she saw some FD deposits in Archana's name that Manav had made, Archana didn't ask for it in her name, in fact the opposite but Savita started getting insecure and started hating Archana again. She instigated little Sachin against Archana, tried to get Shravani back in Sachin's life and used the chawl incident to her advantage and when Manav got angry with Archana made use of the opportunity to pretend Manav had sent divorce and custody papers for the girls. When Archana tried to get in touch with Manav when they were leaving to Canada, he gave the phone to his mom because Savita lied and said Archana had refused to come with them when in fact she didn't give Archana the ticket Manav had sent. So Archana doesn't get to talk to Manav and Savita misleads both of them again.
Edited by soapwatcher1 - 13 years ago
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Soapwatcher something very major which happened prior to FD or Rasika's ear poisoning..Here are the leading events to Savita's insecurities in her own home...Thanks to ArMan and making Deshmukh house a Karanjkar home..
1. Manav brought Sulo in Deshmukh home w/o asking Archana or Savita which he should have...Especially Savita as she is the owner of the home...But that is not the point because Savita welcomed her with open arms. Offered to share her bedroom, jewelery, saree etc...She was fair..
I precisely remember the moment when Savita felt outsider in her own home..18000 rs. which Archana decided to let Sulo hold it instead of trusting Savita with it..Which Savita saw and heard Archana tell her mom.
2nd..Same Rs. 18000 which was given to Sulo to hold and protect was stolen by Rassi ...But what did ArMan do when Savita asked for it? They lied abt it that it was some bonus which he had gotten...Savita is no dummy. Obviously Rasika played well and took good advantage of the situation.
3rd. When Vandu asked for money to help with Ajit's business the same day Varsha came and grabbed money out of Archana's hand to buy some jewelry which was on sale...Vandu's need for money was for survival where Varsha's need for money was to buy luxury..A rchana has always put her family over Vandu..Pls dont give me argument abt her being married to Ajit the loser...Remove Ajit from equasion...Savita as a mother has all the right to help her daughter...Vandu had never ever asked for a penny from her brother or mom before...First time and what happens Archana chooses her sister over Manav's sister.
Archana and Manav both took Savita for granted during that time and Sulo took over...Actually it became Karanjkar home...Varsha moved in for some days..
Than came time with the FDs...Yes agree Archana never wanted FDs in her name...She always told Manav to get some in Savita's name...But by this time enough had happened for making Savita feels taken for granted and outsider in her own house..Rest is history..
People have to remember all turn of events in the sequence how they happened for Savita to feel how she feel...I am not saying it is right but not saying she is wrong in feeling hurt or neglected.
Sulo had over stayed her welcome in that house...She should have known to remain in Vridhashram and not move in with Deshmukhs no matter how much manav imposed or how many kasams he gave.
If I am staying with my married son or daughter it is my responsibility to know my boundries.-limitations..Remember Manav-Archana were living in Savita-Damo's home...Not Savita living with ArMan in their house..
Hope it makes sense...if I am wrong pls correct me but I think my memory is right 😃
Edited by Dabulls23 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Soapwatcher something very major which happened prior to FD or Rasika's ear poisoning..Here are the leading events to Savita's insecurities in her own home...Thanks to ArMan and making Deshmukh house a Karanjkar home..

1. Manav brought Sulo in Deshmukh home w/o asking Archana or Savita which he should have...Especially Savita as she is the owner of the home...But that is not the point because Savita welcomed her with open arms. Offered to share her bedroom, jewelery, saree etc...She was fair..
I precisely remember the moment when Savita felt outsider in her own home..18000 rs. which Archana decided to let Sulo hold it instead of trusting Savita with it..Which Savita saw and heard Archana tell her mom.
2nd..Same Rs. 18000 which was given to Sulo to hold and protect was stolen by Rassi ...But what did ArMan do when Savita asked for it? They lied abt it that it was some bonus which he had gotten...Savita is no dummy. Obviously Rasika played well and took good advantage of the situation.
3rd. When Vandu asked for money to help with Ajit's business the same day Varsha came and grabbed money out of Archana's hand to buy some jewelry which was on sale...Vandu's need for money was for survival where Varsha's need for money was to buy luxury..A rchana has always put her family over Vandu..Pls dont give me argument abt her being married to Ajit the loser...Remove Ajit from equasion...Savita as a mother has all the right to help her daughter...Vandu had never ever asked for a penny from her brother or mom before...First time and what happens Archana chooses her sister over Manav's sister.
Archana and Manav both took Savita for granted during that time and Sulo took over...Actually it became Karanjkar home...Varsha moved in for some days..
Than came time with the FDs...Yes agree Archana never wanted FDs in her name...She always told Manav to get some in Savita's name...But by this time enough had happened for making Savita feel taken for granted and outsider in her own house..Rest is history..
People have to remember all turn of events in the sequence how they happened for Savita to feel how she feel...I am not saying it is right but not saying she is wrong in feeling hurt or neglected.
Sulo had overwelcomed her stay in that house...She should have known to remain in Vridhashram and not move in with Deshmukhs no matter how much manav imposed or how many kasams he gave.
If I am staying with my married son or daughter it is my responsibility to know my boundries...Remember Manav-Archana were living in Savita-Damo's home...Not Savita living with ArMan in their house..
Hope it makes sense...if I am wrong pls correct me but I think my memory is right 😃



Varsha Di very good post. Agree with everything you wrote.😊 Sulo had gotten way too cozy at the Deshmuks. Savitas hatred for Archana is 100% justified. I also remember on Ganpati Utsav day Archu had given so much importance to her mother and had abandoned Savita. Also I recall Savita feeling abandoned, alone and Archu kept telling Sulo how Savita never hides her pain. Yes Rasika did take advantage of the situation but Archu-Sulo let it happen. I remember clearly Archu telling her mother at the celebration how Savita misplaces money sometimes and she put the money in Sulo's hands as she said out loud that savita loses money. and how was sulo responsible? She left it on the table didn't give it to Manav and Rasika got ahold of the orange money bag. And I do remember Varsha taking money from Archu when Vandu needed it else she would not have been spared by the mother-son duo.

Manav was 100% right though that day to take Archana straight to Ajit's home to ask Vandu for forgiveness. I still remember his line to Savita that you and Vandu have as much right over my money as Archana does.👍🏼 so unfortunate Vandu got mad at Manav just for Archu. Yes and also Varsha was bought to the D house to live there when Satish went out of town and Archu did not even ask Savita's permission as she is the owner of the home.
Edited by bhallarox - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bhallarox



Varsha Di very good post. Agree with everything you wrote.😊 Sulo had gotten way too cozy at the Deshmuks. Savitas hatred for Archana is 100% justified. I also remember on Ganpati Utsav day Archu had given so much importance to her mother and had abandoned Savita. Also I recall Savita feeling abandoned, alone and Archu kept telling Sulo how Savita never hides her pain. Yes Rasika did take advantage of the situation but Archu-Sulo let it happen. I remember clearly Archu telling her mother at the celebration how Savita misplaces money sometimes and she put the money in her hands. And I do remember Varsha taking money from Archu when Vandu needed it else she would not have been spared by the mother-son duo.

Manav was 100% right though that day to take Archana straight to Ajit's home to ask Vandu for forgiveness so unfortunate Vandu got mad at Manav just for Archu. Yes and also Varsha was bought to the D house to live there when Satish went out of town and Archu did not even ask Savita's permission as she is the owner of the home.

Bhalla I remember vividly now..On Ganesh Mahotsav night Savita felt hurt hearing Archu giving money to Sulo telling Savita not only misplaces but over spends it in faltoo things.. Hurt and abandoned Savita that night went to Vandu to talk but Rassi lied that Vandu was not home...Took advantage of Savita's vulnerable situation...Savita poured her heart to a wrong person...Had she been allowed to talk to Vandu this would not have happened..
Also when Savita wanted to give money to get a place for Vandu how Archana did not give money last minute w/o letting manav or savita know why...lame excuse Ajit is a gambler and will blow up the money...Archu could have let Manav and Savita know and than let them decide..Who was she to decide? Yes her input is important but decision is Manav and Savita's especially.
Still Vandu is so stupid who keeps doing Archu Vahini Jaap...And disrespected Shravni who gave Sachin's LIC policy money for Vandu...Damo ad Vandu both favored and kissed Archu's behind...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Bhalla I remember vividly now..On Ganesh Mahotsav night Savita felt hurt hearing Archu giving money to Sulo telling Savita not only misplaces but over spends it in faltoo things.. Hurt and abandoned Savita that night went to Vandu to talk but Rassi lied that Vandu was not home...Took advantage of Savita's vulnerable situation...Savita poured her heart to a wrong person...Had she been allowed to talk to Vandu this would not have happened..
Also when Savita wanted to give money to get a place for Vandu how Archana did not give money last minute w/o letting manav or savita know why...lame excuse Ajit is a gambler and will blow up the money...Archu could have let Manav and Savita know and than let them decide..Who was she to decide? Yes her input is important but decision is Manav and Savita's especially.
Still Vandu is so stupid who keeps doing Archu Vahini Jaap...And disrespected Shravni who gave Sachin's LIC policy money for Vandu...Damo ad Vandu both favored and kissed Archu's behind...



Your memory is great Varsha Di. Yes Archana showed her Jhansi Ki rani last minute act as always and refused to give money to Ajit. Manav was about to give the check to Ajit but she interfered and got Vandu in so much trouble by Ajit that night. Vandu was right to scold Archu that day at Ajit's b day party when he was supposed to be given the check but after a couple of days she immediately forgot her mistake. Yes Savita did pur her hear out to a wrong person. I think what Rasika said to Savita was Vandu is resting in the other room and she played one of her smart tricks on Savita that do u want me to wake your daughter up and Savita had immediately said no as she doesn't want to trouble Vandu. But all of this starts from Archu she gave waay too much attention to her mother and ignored Savita. She is the main cause of each problem in PR.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I do remember Sulo being turned out of the house by Vinod and Manju and her living in an ashram, the newspaper ads, etc, Manav bringing her home to live with them. I also remember one scene in particular where Savita and Archana are sitting on the sofa like mother and daughter and Sulo and Manav are on the other side - very nice scene. I remember Varsha living with them and the whole fiasco. I have always felt bad for Vandu but wasn't Ajit already lying to Manav and hadn't he gotten back into gambling? I remember Manav and Ajit being friends and partners for a time too. Wasn't that the reason the money was refused? I also remember the scene when the landlord comes asking for rent money and Vandu gives the money Manav gave her. Mother (rasika) and Ajit wanted to use Vandu to milk the rich brother, they talk about it too.
I understand it was all around an unfortunate turn of events. And as is the case with this soap, nobody talks or communicates with each other, if only mother in law and daughter in law had communicated, husband and wife had talked, sister and sister-in-law had talked, it would have been a different story. Savita for the period she was a good mother in law, was excellent, I remember her helping Archana trap that girl Dharmesh sets up to throw dirt at Manav. While all the chaals that Savita sets up can be overlooked, in my opinion, separating a man from his wife for 18 years and children from their mother for 18 years is a bit extreme. Of course, both the man and the woman are to be blamed too, they are adults and should have had the sense to talk, correspond, check, verify but they are senseless and it has now come to this sorry state.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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BTW all who are in support of Feminism and Archana's support is fine because when we are young our focus is different
But wait until they become MILs focus will change...They all will have same feeling or hurt as Savita..
Its all relative-subjective to where u are in your life-journey..
R u young and single
R u young and married with no or young children
R u a well matured married woman with a married son as well as married daughter??
Answers will change with each Q..
Nothing wrong in female rights but so do male species have right and their families..
Girls & their families may rock but so do boys and their families..
BTW when Ajit had turned positive and was wrkng with Manav in money lending business, Manav chose to take other dude's word over Ajits when money was missing...That was the beginning of Ajit's rivelry and anger against Manav...Manav was wrong and he should have apologized and fixed things with ajit once he found out Ajit was not the culprit...They were not only friends or working together but also related by marriage..
But if this was Archana's family member Manav would have forgiven and forgotten everything...Look at him trusting Varsha the psycho-child kidnapping sister in his house...But not ajit the gambler...Lopsided relationships and unfair treatments for karanjkars VS Deshmukhs..
House money was not for Ajit...Place could have been bought or rented in Vandu's name...But Archana decided to make that decision on her own w/o Manav or Savita's knowledge or consent..
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But wasn't Savita having memory problems at that time? She used to wander into people's homes and yell at them for coming into her home. She was also spending money at the mahila samaj or something and Rasika was making a fool of her there. And yes, if Rasika had not tricked her that day, all would have been well.
Sulo might have gotten comfortable at Manav's and yes, I do remember Savita being extremely welcoming to Sulo in the first place but Archana never meant to hurt Savita or take away her status or money in any way. I remember when Manav bought the necklace and Archana says it is for Savita. They could have all been one happy family if only they had learned not to hide stuff about their hurts and had talked openly.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dabulls23

BTW all who are in support of Feminism and Archana's support is fine because when we are young our focus is different

But wait until they become MILs focus will change...They all will have same feeling or hurt as Savita..
Its all relative-subjective to where u are in your life-journey..
R u young and single
R u young and married with no or young children
R u a well matured married woman with a married son as well as married daughter??
Answers will change with each Q..
Nothing wrong in female rights but so do male species have right and their families..
Girls & their families may rock but so do boys and their families..
BTW when Ajit had turned positive and was wrkng with Manav in money lending business, Manav chose to take other dude's word over Ajits when money was missing...That was the beginning of Ajit's rivelry and anger against Manav...Manav was wrong and he should have apologized and fixed things with ajit once he found out Ajit was not the culprit...They were not only friends or working together but also related by marriage..
But if this was Archana's family member Manav would have forgiven and forgotten everything...Look at him trusting Varsha the psycho-child kidnapping sister in his house...But not ajit the gambler...Lopsided relationships and unfair treatments for karanjkars VS Deshmukhs..
House money was not for Ajit...Place could have been bought or rented in Vandu's name...But Archana decided to make that decision on her own w/o Manav or Savita's knowledge or consent..

I so agree with the part in purple, 100% 👏 I have a son and wonder too how I will be as a mother in law if I will be just as possessive as my mother in law was with her son. And though I used to wonder why she behaved like that before I had kids, I can understand much better now where she was coming from, so absolutely true what you have said. One's perception changes with life changes.
Probably right about the second part too that if it had been Archana's relative, they would have probably been forgiven more readily. What is that saying, "a daughter is a daughter all your life, a son is a son till he gets a wife" not saying this in reference to Manav or Archana, as they are not bad children to their parents.

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