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Posted: 13 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1
We all seem to be in agreement for the first time 😆 I agree with the too much of muchness. Punni clearly had the upperhand, was a little disappointed with Purvi's reaction today, she could have been a little fiesty and told her cousin off that she did not knowingly fall in love with her sister's fiance and that there was no chakkar - on second thoughts - that would be admittance to guilt of sorts and Purvi is better off keeping mum but her facial expressions seemed wooden today. (Not criticizing my beti just the way the scene was put together! 😃)

Bee, the way I saw Purvi insist on Arjun listening in to her conversation with Ovi, (yes, she should not have as Ovi was pouring out her feelings of insecurity but Purvi perhaps did not know this going into the conversation?), was -

1) Purvi feels more secure in her relationship with Arjun than she lets on - she trusts he will not share that she did this and she is comfortable sharing her conversations with him (much like a husband and wife?). Ovi on the other hand still has some barriers where Arjun is concerned inspite of the bond they share, she is not willing to expose her deepest vulnerabilities about him to him. Purvi has no such hang-ups, she lets him know every step of the way that he has hurt her and that she did let down her guard with him. Unconsciously, but I see that she is very, very sure of him in her own way, not about the fact that he will own up to Ovi any time soon but about their sense of belonging despite their present situation and misunderstanding.

2) reason why she wanted Arjun to listen to the conversation? my take was a bit different on this. I think it is a combination, of your reason 2 and something more. She wants to let him know that Ovi is deeply in love with him and that in insisting to carry on with her, Purvi, he is bound to hurt Ovi. Not that she herself doesn't want Arjun but that it is an impossible situation and that she is nearly at the end of her tether. "Look what you have done, are you guilty now? You are going to hurt her, you have already hurt me. See where your cowardice has brought all of us, I don't think you can get out of this as easily as you think however long you take. You let me down, make sure you don't let her down at least." Arjun read all this and hence, his guilt ridden face.

Janhvi,

- I agree Purvi is also secure about her relationship with Arjun.

- Fine, she wants to show the wrong he is doing by not telling Ovi, but what about what she told Ovi ? That she never loved anyone? How will she look in front of Ovi when the truth comes out? Our confident Purvi, has she thought about that before telling those powerful dialogues of breaking trust, making Arjun feel guilty? Wouldn't Ovi question her with the same "I trusted you and you broke my trust?"

Purvi comes across looking confused. Externally she doesn't want Arjun, but internally quite the opposite.😆

Edited by bee5 - 13 years ago

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sashashyam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#12

Dear luvly,

Thanks a lot for the detailed comments.

I liked the Archana-Savita segment only because it was such a pleasant surprise. I do not think it will DO any good, except for viewers like me who cannot stand any more of rona dhona.

As for the Monster-in-Law's (I to like the name, but it is tiresome for typing out, what with the 2 capitals and the 2 hyphens) grand revelation on Thursday, what I am hoping (very hard, even against hope) is that on learning the truth. Teju, after a minute of stunned silence, will run across to Archana, hug her, and burst into tears.

At that moment (if ever it happens) I shall be focussing on Savita's face. It would be a treat!! I don't much care what Ovi does; in the end she always follows Teju's lead. Thus will Savita's goose be well and truly cooked, and this time I WILL dance a celebratory jig.

Lastly, I do not remember the precap showing Purvi making any decision to tell all, either to Archana or to Arjun. I think she will do nothing for the present, let us see. As for the truth being the best bet, it depends a great deal on the circumstances. At times, it can become a self-indulgent exercise in relieving one's own conscience at the cost of great pain for others.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: luvly

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sashashyam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#13

Dear luvly,

Thanks a lot for the detailed comments.

I liked the Archana-Savita segment only because it was such a pleasant surprise. I do not think it will DO any good, except for viewers like me who cannot stand any more of rona dhona.

As for the Monster-in-Law's (I to like the name, but it is tiresome for typing out, what with the 2 capitals and the 2 hyphens) grand revelation on Thursday, what I am hoping (very hard, even against hope) is that on learning the truth. Teju, after a minute of stunned silence, will run across to Archana, hug her, and burst into tears.

At that moment (if ever it happens) I shall be focussing on Savita's face. It would be a treat!! I don't much care what Ovi does; in the end she always follows Teju's lead. Thus will Savita's goose be well and truly cooked, and this time I WILL dance a celebratory jig.

Lastly, I do not remember the precap showing Purvi making any decision to tell all, either to Archana or to Arjun. I think she will do nothing for the present, let us see. As for the truth being the best bet, it depends a great deal on the circumstances. At times, it can become a self-indulgent exercise in relieving one's own conscience at the cost of great pain for others.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: luvly

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Rich`

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Posted: 13 years ago

#14

i agree with something and i cant LIKE anybdy;s post cause of the error

good post sshyamala - sorry if i misspelled it. u r funny and the choice of words were fantastic as well, u shud write more in the writer's corner in IF, would love to read ur work

Soapwatcher and Bee5 agree with parts of ur posts

i didnt see the loudspeaker scene
but if she loves him and trusts him even a tiny bit,
why is she showing him attitude

arjun doesnt love ovi, yes,
he committed that he wud marry her after the fiasco ovi did
but the same fiasco was solved then and there when arjun said no he didnt say that etc
after those scenes, he himself came to her if am not wrong
he comes to india, hates the arrogant purvi and then falls in love , good
but selective memory in a mature man;s head?? not justified for me
hence he is a cheater and he has justified the same fact a number of times now

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sashashyam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#15

Dear bee5 and Janhvi,

I think we will soon be well on the way to having a whole PhD thesis on our hands solely on Arjun-Purvi, and of course I myself am a none too minor culprit in the matter!

As for what I felt after last night's episode, if, as Janhvi says, Purvi is behaving like a wife, she is in the best tradition of nagging wives, fixing Arjun with a basilisk glare, and following him around the room with menacing intent (bee, you are quite right in your criticism of this unnecessary tactic).

The worst is her going ON and ON and ON about how miserable she is and how betrayed she feels because this wretch has broken her trust so badly. Exposing her hurt and vulnerability? She wallows in it herself, and insists on rubbing his face in it without fail.

Once she has spoken her mind to him in full on this theme - and in the highest decibels possible while still remaining out of the ultrasonic - long back (at that tete a tete in the office one evening), where is the need to keep on saying the same thing like an LP stuck in one groove?

Arjun deserves all this and more, but this is about Purvi. Doesn't the girl have ANY pride or self respect or dignity? Why does she have to parade her sorrows before Arjun every chance she gets? In her place, I would have been coldly but impeccably polite, not alternately huffy and accusing. Why does she not keep off him (he never visits her cabin these days) ? Does she have to report to him in person and can it not be done on the phone? It is not as though she had anything earth-shaking to communicate anyway.

The fact is that Purvi feels better by making Arjun squirm, and by now it has become an end in itself. The "poor betrayed Ovi who loved you since she was 14" leit motif has always been there in Purvi's harangues, but now it is being embellished with Ovi's own declarations of unquestioning trust in Arjun,and this without Ovi's knowledge or consent. It might have been an unexpected windfall for Purvi, and it does achieve its purpose of making Arjun feel even more guilty, but to what end?

Then again, letting, indeed forcing Arjun to listen in on Ovi's conversation with her was downright unethical. To try to excuse Purvi by saying that she did not know all this soul baring was coming is not does not work. She had NO business doing it without Ovi's consent, and that consent would never have been given.

As for trying to impress on Arjun that "You are going to hurt her, you have already hurt me. See where your cowardice has brought all of us, I don't think you can get out of this as easily as you think however long you take. You let me down, make sure you don't let her down at least.", hasn't all this been hurled in his face at least 3 times already - in the office, in the dark room, and again in the office? (There may be more such instances, for my memory fails me when I try to keep track of these unappetising Arjun-Purvi scenes over the last 3 weeks - they seem to be all blurring into a single depressing mass). Yesterday, it DID make Arjun feel and look more guilty than ever, but to what purpose, unless, as I suspect, this is an end in itself for Purvi now?

More to the point, even if Arjun had been the epitome of courage and honour, and had 'fessed up right then at the engagement party, does Purvi imagine that all would have been hunky dory? If she does think that, she needs to have her head examined. The uproar and the condemnations would have raised the roof, and the scarring of many relationships so close to Purvi's heart would have been permanent.

Most important, as bee asked so pertinently, WHAT does Purvi actually want Arjun to do? She is decidedly ambivalent, and thus inconsistent. The result is that we are terminally confused.

Lastly, there was NO need for her to grandstand for effect and tell Ovi that she has never loved anyone. She meant it as a jab at Arjun, but it is bound to backfire on her badly when Ovi learns the truth.

It is a cardinal principle in diplomacy, as in life in general, that when you cannot tell the truth, you should avoid actual lies as much as possible. This blatant lie of Purvi's, spoken solely to turn the knife in Arjun's (metaphorical) wound, was worse than unnecessary, it was stupid. It is very likely to damage her credibility at a crucial moment in the future.

Arjun-Purvi is not merely in the doldrums, it is going backwards. Most of their interactions these days are as fresh and appealing as last week's buns.

And does Purvi have to repeat that lunch-with-Vinay outfit for the 18th time? (Well, I made up that number, but it would not be less that 12 times!). I am no admirer of Ovi's sartorial choices, but her buttercup yellow, flounced top yesterday was as least both cheerful and new.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: bee5

Janhvi,
- I agree Purvi is also secure about her relationship with Arjun.

- Fine, she wants to show the wrong he is doing by not telling Ovi, but what about what she told Ovi ? That she never loved anyone? How will she look in front of Ovi when the truth comes out? Our confident Purvi, has she thought about that before telling those powerful dialogues of breaking trust, making Arjun feel guilty? Wouldn't Ovi question her with the same "I trusted you and you broke my trust?"

Purvi comes across looking confused. Externally she doesn't want Arjun, but internally quite the opposite.😆

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sashashyam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#16

Dear nirvanlove,

Thank you ever so much for those very kind words. 😳 I am truly flattered. I am glad you enjoyed the funny parts of this post; in these depressing times in PR, we all need something to make us laugh!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: nirvanlove
i agree with something and i cant LIKE anybdy;s post cause of the error

good post sshyamala - sorry if i misspelled it. u r funny and the choice of words were fantastic as well, u shud write more in the writer's corner in IF, would love to read ur work

Soapwatcher and Bee5 agree with parts of ur posts

i didnt see the loudspeaker scene
but if she loves him and trusts him even a tiny bit,
why is she showing him attitude

arjun doesnt love ovi, yes,
he committed that he wud marry her after the fiasco ovi did
but the same fiasco was solved then and there when arjun said no he didnt say that etc
after those scenes, he himself came to her if am not wrong
he comes to india, hates the arrogant purvi and then falls in love , good
but selective memory in a mature man;s head?? not justified for me
hence he is a cheater and he has justified the same fact a number of times now

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sashashyam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#17

Dear Darlyne,

As for Archana's tears - after unduly raising our hopes about a NO rona dhona episode - she must be of an economical turn of mind, and she probably did not want to waste the glycerine. It was already long past the expiry date and by the next time, it might have become unusable!

Dear bee5, did she really use Vicks Vaporub? It must have been awful for her very pretty eyes. Glycerine is MUCH better.

Shyamala

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sashashyam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#18

Dear minimouse11 ( what a very cute id!)

Thanks a lot. I was just letting off steam; the whole Arjun-Purvi mess gets on my nerves these days. Your comment is a morale booster that I needed badly! (I take it that you meant my latest harangue and not the original curate's egg post).

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: minimouse11
wow...joy reading...

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sashashyam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#19

Darlyne,

Thanks ever so much for your kind words; I am glad you enjoyed the post, that I wrote almost as a satirical essay, and focussed on making it as funny as I could. PR is a regular downer these days, and we need all the laughter we can summon up!

Yes, Jane Fonda as the original Monster-in-Law was nothing like as foul-mouthed and crude as Savita is. It was just that I feel in love with the expression!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Darlyne
Hi Shyamala, very nice analysis of today's show, yet I am not sure I will watch it tonight or not. If I watch then only to watch Purvi-Punni part. I love the following part; I always have the same complaint.
In PR and other soaps, doors and windows only exist so that they can be kept ajar for the mandatory eavesdropper, who can thus have life somewhat easier than with an ear pressed close to the wood or an eye to the keyhole, always afraid that the door might suddenly be opened. No prizes for guessing who is outside the door!

I can not believe you used the word Monster In Law; I thought of it as well. But it always make me think of Jane Fonda who was fantastic, and looked very pretty in the movie. JeLo was not like Archana at all. So I never used the word MIL for Savita. Jane Fonda used proper language. I also did not get much excited about ArVi scene, from the posts, it looks like they are still very much detach. I also love the following part, this show is basically running on
many characters (most of them are good) keeping secrets...

I do not think Purvi will tell anything to anyone - either Archana or Arjun. She will keep quiet for the present, and so, most reluctantly, will Punni, for if there is a showdown, Purvi has cast iron technical proof that the anonymous call was made from Punni's place. It is rather like a Mexican standoff -with each of them with a (metaphorical)gun to the other's head, trying to make sure she does not blink first. Clint Eastwood would have loved this!

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Rich`

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Posted: 13 years ago

#20

apologies for screwing up with ur name ssashayam ?

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