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Posted: 15 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: Tanyaz

I also don't think he meant it at all ...He was also very hurt and frustrated ....

The minute he finds out about his mother's illness he will do everything he can to help her ....I don't doubt the love he has for his mother for a minute ....not for a second ...
I felt sorry for savita yesterday but felt equally sorry for Manav ...
Mistakes have been made from both sides ...
I hope they put everything that happened in the past behind them and take a fresh start ....
Sulochna also said to Archu the dayshe got married ' Choose between me and Manav and then stick to the decision forever ' but then the minute Archu was sick , she came running to her ...
Shravani told Manv ....no matter what , this time I am not going to leave the mandap ...but when Manav told her and his mother ....I will go through my responsibility but I swear I will never love anyone else but Archana ..she too started thinking more logically and stopped getting emotional ...
Manav loves savita sooooo much .. It was killing him yesterday ..One could see it clearly .Manav was also very dejected and he actually said that I could not keep yo uhappy , I don't deserve to be your son ...
I hope he realises that hsi mother is not in her right senses and he should have gone easier on her and I hope Savita realizes that Manav too has a right to be happy the way he wants to be happy and not how she wants him to be happy ...

Hmmm . The question is where is this cold fury , hate and frstration when Archanas Maayka treated him worst than an insect that crawled out from under a stone . They treated Archna with scant respect too . He LOVED them like a SAINT inspite of it . That doesn't JELL .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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πŸ˜†.... Well atleast it is a tie πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜ƒ. Everyone was down saying your team will loose πŸ˜‰ ... πŸ‘ ... the day didn't go entirely down πŸ˜‰πŸ˜³... see u guys tommorow.

From my hubby: Cheers!!! πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒ


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P.S. This time Polish prayers were with you πŸ˜²πŸ˜ƒ. But yes, I'm not scheduling anything that coincide with such spectacle again ...
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Edited by Polki_Zofi - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Literally . She was CRYINg and telling them not to split and Archana kept looking at her devta's face but the Devta was on a SACRIFICIAL HIGH . Wonder what they call such KARMAS .



uh , foolishness?
He went on this sacrificial high bcuz somewhere he felt guilty about the jailing and sachin's death ...

Actually I get nervous whenever someone lays a guilt trip on manav ( usually he lays it on himself) ... he completely loses it and makes these huge decisions ( sacrifices ) and doesnt know when to put the brakes ...

Of course , I am sure we are going to see manav feel very guilty about this whole incident , and I want to see him repent , but I wish the the CVs dont take it to extremes ..
Like him trying to make his mom feel emotionally secure and in the process becoming distant with others ( read- archana ) ..

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Posted: 15 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: Polki_Zofi

πŸ˜†.... Well atleast it is a tie πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜ƒ. Everyone was down saying your team will loose πŸ˜‰ ... πŸ‘ ... the day didn't go entirely down πŸ˜‰πŸ˜³... see u guys tommorow.

From my hubby: Cheers!!! πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒ


πŸ˜†

P.S. This time Polish prayers were with you πŸ˜²πŸ˜ƒ. But yes, I'm not scheduling anything that coincide with such spectacle again ...
πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜† Am waiting for ur pm describing dinnerπŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒ
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Posted: 15 years ago
#75
Kools ur commentary touch my heart today.....
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Posted: 15 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: naava

i haven't watched the epi yet but read the WU's and commentaries... it looks like an interesting one to watch.

...but i continue to be perplexed. Perplexed at most of the comments not the show. I think the CV's are doing a good job of showing the dysfunctions of a household where there is mental illness and abuse. I think Manav is doing his best to deal with a sick situation. He has had no role models to know how to, or to recognize the extent of the illness but gets pulled right into it. This happens in alcoholic and abusive families and other situations of illness. I can see why he is attracted to the K's...even with their problems, Manoar and Sulo present a united couple, and Manoar's love for Manav doesn't go unnoticed. Manav was raised by two very dysfunctional and sick parents...Savita is ill period...but definitely not because of Manav. Her greed expanded from gold to people and her manipulation of everyone around her should not be patronized. Yes, one can feel sorry for her but to blame the son who has tried so hard as the cause of her illness is totally unfair

No one is more supportive of honoring parents or traditional values of family structure than i am, but tough love sometimes does more in the end. Allowing and condoning abusive behavior will NEVER change or correct the problem, it only exacerbates it.. I say kudos to both archu and manav for trying to deal with it in the best way they know how.

Sachu, as we all noted earlier, should never be in this household anyway...shame on Shravani for giving him to Savita, and shame on Savita for stealing and coercing Shravani to give him to her. I hope in the end Shravani will return to rescue her child. (this new baby is adorable)

I hope Vaishali means what she says and now is willing to say the truth...it's time.





I do not watch the serial, just read Tanya's updates and Kool's commentary. I like how passionately Kool points out her POV and keeps backing it up with arguments and counter arguments. Not that I agree to EVERY single point, but I do see the situations from her POV quite often. Untill recently I loved the fact that Kool's commentary had people actually argueing their opinions, not just posting their support and confirmations. I used to enjoy the difference of opinions and the respect towards such difference. Unfortunately off late I am seeing only members who are in complete agreement with Kool's view, posting. May be a post or 2 from Tanya differing on some points. That too not as regularly as before. The thread now reads more like a Kool's fan page! Where are the healthy arguements? This post bringing out a diff. POV was like a breath of fresh air πŸ‘
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Posted: 15 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: bonnefille

Kool di,

Your comments are not controversial but rather apt.....agree 100 percent. But will also add that I feel it is just one sided. I have rather noticed that in all situations there is usually a debate amongst forum members taking sides of characters in each end of the situation. It is either how is manav to understand because savita has always been a little eccentric or manav is too manmohinic of archana to notice his defeated mother. I always try to see the situation from both ends and analyse it that way. And I have always noticed characters with their human flaws intact which they need to overcome themselves....and not blame one for the action of the other.

Savita is in an extremely dismal state where Manav, Damodar and herself have to be blamed. Manav the most because as usual to his character he failed again to strike a balance. Manav in his constant struggle between son and husband....has always failed in one of his role. He failed as lover then (saying lover rather husband given ArMan's marriage was dead due to acceptance of shravani in family). In today's time, he fails as a son.

My moot point is Manav has failed as a son but is not dead as a son. Just the way he failed in his love then but never stopped loving Archana.

Yes Manav's words were laced with cold fury.....but beneath that fury there was disappointment in his words. Disappointment somewhat with his mother.....but mostly with the situation he was in. The situation where he cannot have his family happy, where he cannot be happy with his wife and mother together understanding he needs both of them.

He himself is not understanding why his mother cannot see him and archana happy......he is not mentally at the place where like someone mentioned that he realizes that his mother needs to be embraced like a child. He himself is confused and is not understanding the depth of the situation by putting himself in place of each person involved and knowing their predicament.

Yes, Manav said that 'tu jaa yaha se, main tera beta nahin'- the question is did those words have depth? I will say no. I know nobody will disagree when i say that when it truly dawns Manav the reason behind the predicament of his mother, he will run back and curse himself all the while.

I will just say it is a transitional phase of the relationship between Manav and Savita....not the death of their relationship. Relationships are constantly tested.....sometimes you succeed and sometimes you fail......but it always remains a journey.....Manav and Savita's relationship has always been one of the most beautiful journeys of the show. There have been times Savita has failed as a mother and there are times such like now where Manav has failed as a son. But it is like in real life.....when you are angry with your mother.....say things what you don't mean....but never stop loving. similarly a mother scolds her child......gets defeated for not achieving the way she dreamt her child to be.....but again never stops loving. All emotions get played in a relationship....but love always remains intact.

Anyway, it was one of the best episodes after a long time.....beautiful portrayal of human emotions and relationships which had realism and so many layers that it can be interpreted in many ways. Like many members mentioned....top notch performances given by usha ji and sushant.



πŸ‘ nicely put
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Posted: 15 years ago
#78
Hey Kools,

Posting almost after two months. Was in India for most time but busy with my dad's illness. He is suffering from exactly the same problem: memory loss of abstract and sometimes on the logical side too. He had a stroke and after that did not recognize any of us for 2-3 days. He is out of the hospital now and taking care of him was an eyeopener of how lost and vulnerable they are.

I have not seen many of the episodes, just read updates, but did not have the mental strength to post.

Going by what I read, once Manav realizes the illness, it will be so painful for him. What you want him to do (respect and take care of his mom just because she is a mom) is right from an idealistic pov but life seldom is ideal. Believe me, taking care of my father on many days was very exhausting but I did do it but to be honest somedays I wished there were other siblings to share my load.

Thankfully he is better now and can move around in the house by himself now but my mom needs to constantly be around. He is 80 and she is 78. After two months no matter how much I love them, I had to come back to USA as I have a husband and kids to take care of too. I worry everyday and feel guilty every day, but sometimes life is not ideal and choices are not easy.

Take care..




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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hey anjali, Very nice to see you back😊
Felt very sad after reading ur dad illness. Hope he is fine now .Dun worry. Everythng's gonaa b fine Have faith in God 😊
U too take care 😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ShradsBLfan

Hey anjali, Very nice to see you back😊
Felt very sad after reading ur dad illness. Hope he is fine now .Dun worry. Everythng's gonaa b fine Have faith in God 😊
U too take care 😊



Thanks Shraddha, He is fine now ie he is home, can move about in the house. has vision issues and many many mood swings, again all due to the hemmoraging in the brain which eventually was contained. He loves cricket so I am hoping that the world cup will bring cheer.

Take care.. Anjali

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