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Dabulls23

@Dabulls23

Stunner

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Posted: 15 years ago

#121

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
Gundi Varsha ur up too ?

Chalo guys good nite from Kools . Gotta get up early morn for my chores . Bye u all , sweet dreams.

GN Kools we alll love u soooooo much....Muva....Get good night sleep so u r ready for a new round and a new topic tmrw 😛....Have sweet dreams gal....Kiss kiss to bachcha party...🤗

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star_wars

@star_wars

Dazzler

Posted: 15 years ago

#122

We reward people that excel so why should Shravani be flogged, she should get her trophy (Manav) Why the delay, I have no idea.

Should we go down the road of madly in love characters. I wish not to as Shravani's falling in love with Manav is well renowned but I guess hers is normal.. We have reached a dead end and I respect most of your posts.

Thank u dear , I do know for a fact that u like many of my posts ....u press the like button , I have seen it . I guess we have reached a dead end of sorts but I wud like to make myself a little clearer , see if u can understand my POV ........or u can just leave it and agree to disagree.

I personally disapprove of premarital sex and abortion both on a religious level . However I am not a prude and I dont judge others if they do this....I am no one to judge . Its their life is my opinion .

That said , Inspite of disapproving of it , if these mistakes happen by youths , I dont feel they shud be left to face the consequences ruthlessly by parents or society . Coz these youths r inexperienced and now they will be bringing a child in the world and if they handle the child all wrong due to sheer inexperience , an entire life is destroyed .But if society steps in at the right time to help , the chils life can be resurrected , saved . Illegitimacy is NOT the childs fault .

If youthful women r left alone with their pre marital pregnancy saying , u did na , now u suffer ........these things can happen

Due to inexperience , no guidance , they may eat , drink , do things that may harm foetus

They may sink in depression , take drugs etc which may harm child

They may attempt suicide

They may attempt abortion .............medically it may be a choice but on a religious level its far greater a sin than pre marital sex even as it is snuffing out a life

So I liked it that Deshmukhs gave Shravni support . She had no mother , her bf died tragically .How much shud she pay for her youthful mistake ? Shud she pay for it by killing her child so she can live a life according to society's expectations of her ?

Shravni did NOt make Archu Manav divorce ...their marraige was already in the doldrums .

Shravni tried to abort the baby although it was dangerous for her life but Archu manav stopped her

Shravni accepted this solution from a practical pov but later fell in love with Manav which was held against her . I dont know about others but I agree with sid who says it is a myth that we fall in love only once .We can fall in love again . Archna barely knew Manav for 15 days , Shravnis association with him is much longer .She grew up playing near him , later he became her saviour in her hour of need ,If what she had with Sachin was an infatuaation or crush , it evaporated as she observed Manav , his decency , and totally fell for her saviour . I find this normal , very normal . These things happen in real life . What does NOT happen is an association of just 15 days turns into a Mere Bhagwan kinda relationship .

Shravni disliked Archna rushing over to meddle in each thing of hers and Manavs . Again , her reaction was normal and common as jealousy is a common feeling .

Manav told her I dont love u I love Archu but Shravnis love for Manav did NOt go away .Normal and common again . Just coz Manav does not love her doesnt mean HER feelings will go away .

Shravni was however NOT bitchy like Manju to Manavs family . She was rather nice to them .,She was not snobbish she lived in the chawl , cooked , is now travelling by trains , respected Savita much more than Varsha respected Bhavna. Damodar was against her and openly favored Archu but Shravni didnt mind that and was ok with him . All she cud not stand was Archu as she knew that on a womanly level she cud nEVER measure upto Archus mahaanta.

sHravni never minded Sachins insurance money being squandered on Vandus trousseau by Manavs foolish family .She truly isnt bitchy like Mannju .

Practical marraiges not exactly done for love r solutions accepted by women all over the world. Not working inspite of having US education due to difficult pregnancy and babys delivery , later bringing up of baby is quite understandable. I cannot hold this against Shravni .But inspite of giving up education at young age when I see Archu tossing opprtunity aside just for Manavs sake each time when he is giving no commitment to her , I feel more zapped .

Today all r saying she shud live with Girish this that .She has no mom , no experience in bringing baby up , Deshmukhs love the baby . Why shudnt she take their help ? Women all over the world do , even with second and third pregnancies . She is living with them ...as u saw she cannot even hold the baby so correctly .Savita and Manav r helping her and she is ok with it . It is a happy arrangement in which they have put Sachins death behind and r setting a new life .

Archu gave up everthing coz Manav was her weakness and What Manav wants that Manav shall get , Ill do anything for Manavs happinesss was Archus behaviour . And Manav , her Bhagwan , wanted the baby [ not shravni] .

So Archu moved aside and respected this arrangement .

So far so good .But now why this re association with Manav ?I have Haq of knowing truth etc ........Lady u lost ALL Haqs when u signed on divorce paper .Now dont look that way , move on . The man has moved on .

Deluding urself that HIS family is in reality URS wont be looked on kindly by his fiancee ,. Coz although not married , Shravni at least is his fiancee , UR nothing !Ur a divorced woman who has been told to stay away by his fiancee many times . Either u shud have fought for him before divorce and refused him divorce or .........divorce him and just leave him .

This is my POV .😊

You are welcome, I do like many of your posts but I do not like when you sometimes see wrong and make an excuse for it. For Shravani you always have an excuse as to why she did this or that. Wrong is wrong just like how no is no. There is no in between.

All you said above is what have been going on for sometime, reason why I refuse to dwell on it. We all know what Shravani did or did not do and will continue to do. We all know what Archana did or did not do and will continue to do. Spoilt milk. Old wine being recycled in new bottle. No fun.

I see Manav's character as a divorcee, a man that has a live in relationship and still goes to see his ex because she is curious as to why he did not marry his fiance. Reason why I said, the lawlessness will continue on PR. but would I agree or make an excuse for that lawlessness, NO..

You accept Shravani or at least defend her actions, I do not. There is no two ways about that for me.

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star_wars

@star_wars

Dazzler

Posted: 15 years ago

#123

Originally posted by: unknown18
U know Archana fell in love with Manav as fast as Shravani. Archana was with Manav for 15 days nd then left him bcoz he was framed to b characterless so basically she fell in love with a characterless guy (I m saying characterless here bcoz thats what Archu believed nd thats y she took such a drastic step of leaving her husband) Shravani also fell in love in a few days too. She had seen Manav all her life nd knew everything abt him. Manav was the only person who helped her when she greatly needed help, when her own father was not helping her. The only difference between Shravani nd Archana is that Archana WANTS to b a devi nd Shravani is a normal girl.

Here we go again, another excuse for Shravani (👏👏👏) this time why Shravani falling in love with Manav is okay😆😆 barring these facts; her fiance just expired, she is pregnant, the guy she is falling in love with is married and her jijaji 😆😆😆. PR is corrupting. Bhagwan help me.

Sid I am surprised.

Oh, I missed the normal girl part again. I will be abnormal woman.

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gaurimisha

@gaurimisha

Inactive

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Posted: 15 years ago

#124

I still find shravani vry irresponsible,ungrateful n immature.Normally when ppl go thru what she has went thru,they behave more maturely..She doesnt.

@kool:U hav understood the character of shravani really well Kool.Whatever u wrote abt her POV may be right but the scenes in the show dont guarantee us tht.

As viewers,we saw tht she went to abort the child bcoz she came to know tht ArMan still love each other(she heard Manav say so) and the next moment when Manav agreed to put sindoor on her forehead,she says to savita tht she misunderstood manav n tht his feelings for her.😕

Seriously,I dont know if one incident was enuf to make her realise so....,this girl was so much into sachin n ready to abort in one scene and in the next all moony over Manav...I find it so difficult to believe.

The thing abt her falling for Manav bcoz he was her saviour and was decent enuf....this is actually true and more believable had CVs cared to show some scenes developing shravani's character a bit more explicitly.Her development seems either stagnant or rushed at times.

Hence,I merely say she's CVs tool for raising TRPs...Nothing is wrong with having premarital sex ,its quite common these days but she is definitely responsible for having a unsafe one n getting pregnant.Moreover,ArMan r selfless ...always thinking abt her,idiotic as it may be but they r tht way...she knows it and yet her behaviour.I dont understand wht does it takes to be a bit cordial.Now,she has everything her Manao,Ds n PB n yet she cant go to vaishu's marriage....whats the harm ,if savita wants it...I dont see the prob,abhi bhi insecurity?

Shravani may or may not be pathetic....but I find her irresponsible,immature and ungrateful.Whether she is normal or not,I dislike such ppl.

I've always felt this tht as a mother,shravani shud hav been the one worrying abt her child n going for anger management...all she did was Manao Manao...not to my liking at all.

The only explanation for Archu's pathetic behaviour is CVs r again trying to take ideas from here....half-baked ones...trying to make Archu look assertive....ufff..I still dont understand why she was running like tht on the road??

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gaurimisha

@gaurimisha

Inactive

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Posted: 15 years ago

#125

Originally posted by: unknown18
U know Archana fell in love with Manav as fast as Shravani. Archana was with Manav for 15 days nd then left him bcoz he was framed to b characterless so basically she fell in love with a characterless guy (I m saying characterless here bcoz thats what Archu believed nd thats y she took such a drastic step of leaving her husband) Shravani also fell in love in a few days too. She had seen Manav all her life nd knew everything abt him. Manav was the only person who helped her when she greatly needed help, when her own father was not helping her. The only difference between Shravani nd Archana is that Archana WANTS to b a devi nd Shravani is a normal girl.

When was all this shown??I understood she has seen Manav all her life but I doubt she knew him all tht well....not a single scene in PR shows she knew everything abt him.

As for Archu falling in love in 15 days,her dialogue before SP shows she had started falling for him but the proofs against him just confused her too much.There were so many scenes of ArMan and then Manav confessing his luv for her.

Shravani's case is just out of the world.She heard Manav tell Tarun he loves Archu n the next moment she started behaving all in luv....goshh ...is it this spontaneous to come out of infatuation or crush or love(whatever she felt for sachin)...very very difficult to believe.

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star_wars

@star_wars

Dazzler

Posted: 15 years ago

#126

Originally posted by: gaurimisha

I still find shravani vry irresponsible,ungrateful n immature.Normally when ppl go thru what she has went thru,they behave more maturely..She doesnt.

@kool:U hav understood the character of shravani really well Kool.Whatever u wrote abt her POV may be right but the scenes in the show dont guarantee us tht.

As viewers,we saw tht she went to abort the child bcoz she came to know tht ArMan still love each other(she heard Manav say so) and the next moment when Manav agreed to put sindoor on her forehead,she says to savita tht she misunderstood manav n tht his feelings for her.😕

Seriously,I dont know if one incident was enuf to make her realise so....,this girl was so much into sachin n ready to abort in one scene and in the next all moony over Manav...I find it so difficult to believe.

The thing abt her falling for Manav bcoz he was her saviour and was decent enuf....this is actually true and more believable had CVs cared to show some scenes developing shravani's character a bit more explicitly.Her development seems either stagnant or rushed at times.

Hence,I merely say she's CVs tool for raising TRPs...Nothing is wrong with having premarital sex ,its quite common these days but she is definitely responsible for having a unsafe one n getting pregnant.Moreover,ArMan r selfless ...always thinking abt her,idiotic as it may be but they r tht way...she knows it and yet her behaviour.I dont understand wht does it takes to be a bit cordial.Now,she has everything her Manao,Ds n PB n yet she cant go to vaishu's marriage....whats the harm ,if savita wants it...I dont see the prob,abhi bhi insecurity?

Shravani may or may not be pathetic....but I find her irresponsible,immature and ungrateful.Whether she is normal or not,I dislike such ppl.

I've always felt this tht as a mother,shravani shud hav been the one worrying abt her child n going for anger management...all she did was Manao Manao...not to my liking at all.

The only explanation for Archu's pathetic behaviour is CVs r again trying to take ideas from here....half-baked ones...trying to make Archu look assertive....ufff..I still dont understand why she was running like tht on the road??

Your support for Archana cannot be questioned but I must applaud you for not allowing your love for this character to ignore the craziness she is doing and vent your anger and disapproval.👏👏. Very fair. I called her crazy for saying Manav is her God. I loved Manav in the beginning but is he really a MAN that I would want, NO? Sorry if I offend other fans.

PR has shown us few positives and lots of negative and morally incorrect behaviour, not only with Shravani. However, the onus is on us whether to accept or reject such behaviour without finding an excuse for it. Whether to watch or stop watching the show.

I must congratulate Archana's supporters for admitting it is wrong what she is doing and saying "it is wrong."

I said before, the lawless saga called Pavitra Rishta will continue. I guess Archana read the below poem over and over that is why she is so giving but do we like it, no.

A beautiful poem of Rabindranath Tagore - A Nobel laureate Poet (picture did not upload)

Go not to the temple to put flowers on the feet of God. First fill your home with the fragrance of love

Go not to the temple to light candles before the altar of God, first remove the darkness of sin from your heart.

Go not to the temple to bow down your head in prayer, first learn to bow in humility before your fellow men.

Go not to the temple to pray on bended knees, first bend down to lift someone who is down-trodden.

Go not to the temple to ask for forgiveness of your sins, first forgive from your heart those who have sinned against you.

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gaurimisha

@gaurimisha

Inactive

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Posted: 15 years ago

#127

Thnx star_wars(ok to call u this?) .

Indeed its a lovely poem by tagoreji😊

I'm disliking this whole drama of Archu behaving as the other woman.ArMan's rishta at this point is only an extra-marital affair since manav is happy with shravani n has no qualms abt her calling him her husband...whole society knows this as well.What the hell is pavitra abt all this??

I so want a new lead for ARchu now...desperately...she needs to move on.

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star_wars

@star_wars

Dazzler

Posted: 15 years ago

#128

Originally posted by: gaurimisha
Thnx star_wars(ok to call u this?) .

Indeed its a lovely poem by tagoreji😊

I'm disliking this whole drama of Archu behaving as the other woman.ArMan's rishta at this point is only an extra-marital affair since manav is happy with shravani n has no qualms abt her calling him her husband...whole society knows this as well.What the hell is pavitra abt all this??

I so want a new lead for ARchu now...desperately...she needs to move on.

You can. Just read an interview with Sushant and Ankita. Sushant said in simple words when there is monotony, it is time to move on. PR needs to be over and done with because nothing is Pavitra now. Just old wine in new bottle, repetition, switching of characters. Nothing new or creative. Before the leap, we had an unmarried Shravani and a divorced Manav, post leap it is exactly the same, only difference she has given birth and maybe Kaka died. Are we to sit and watch this entire Manav, Archana and Shravani scenes again. I do not want to see unclean fun.

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

Stunner

+ 3

Posted: 15 years ago

#129

Originally posted by: Tanyaz

same here.

Well to all those who felt I was unfair to Archna ........I demanded that by making a post .Had I not liked the character I wud never have demanded so many things for her .For instance I dislike Manju .I dont demand that she shud have a wonderful life . I demand that her marraige shud land in divorce court . I made these demands coz Im hundred percent sure that CVs read us.

Manav will always make her miserable. Always . Pr intends to show a tragic love story , not a happy one. Always remember this .

So I feel that my way of liking Archna is not understood by many [ and I dont mean u Tanya] . My demands for Archus self development , dignity , being given the BEST is construed by some as 'loving Shravni' . 😊 Anything Shravni does , u never say a thing . Ur always after Archu is the silent accusation I sense .😊 My only point of view is ............being judgmental , saying Premarital sex , illegitmate child is a NO NO ..now that she has given birth to child , she shud bring it up alone , without help .........all these things I do not agree to . If a person makes a mistake she shud be HATED is not what i believe . Mistakes happen in youth only , they shud be given HELP . In this Serial Manav gave that help willingly , not helplessly . Archu supported him helplessly , coz by that time she had no choice. She would have lost Manav if she had not gone along with him , agreeing to help Shravni . Coz Manav wud have NOT listened to Archu and backed out if Archu had put up a fight .His love for Savita is far stronger than his love for Archu .

So I always said , Archu shud get better . And yet people see me as being partial to Shravni .😆 When all I asked is let Shravni remain in the chawl , let Archu FLY . As far as Archus loser tendencies go ....like enduring abuse , giving up money , jewellery and becoming bhikaari all the time , bootlicking Manju , giving up Manav and then hankering after her , sorry , I cannot bring myself to find all these things fascinating or good at all . Constantly opting to lose in life is not a sign of sanity , God did not give us life for losing all the time. I cannot just admire her coz she is stunningly beautiful . But I liked her for her basic goodness and demanded the best for her as a viewer . What I dont like about her is her attempt to be TOO GOOD .