Originally posted by: tarantulla_p
.When Archna STOPPED shravni from going did she tell her I will always be part of your life somehow or the other ? If Archna cannot stop loving Manav , its her problem , she shudnt have divorced him then..... she had the option . If she just cant stay away from Manav , why did she lead Shravni on ......she was going away na ? Jaane dene ka ! Let her go ! Archna knows damn well by now that Shravni cannot tolerate her as a woman in manavs life . During pregnancy When Archna forced herself on Shravni She had no choice , she had to tolerate her coz of the court order stay and Archna was legally Manavs wife . Today Archna is divorced , Shravni is Manavs fiancee [ she is engaged to him ] . Even today she wont like Archna constantly being around the kid , mixing in the house freely as if it was hers , rushing to do things for Manav .Which woman will ?Varsha will like , Vaishu will like , who will like ?And thats why I say ......if Archu was instrumental in bringing Shravni back , she shud be particular in staying away too ......coz honestly , if Shravni had been allowed to go , she wud be far happier .If these two .Archu Manav had no intention of staying away from each other they shud habve not conned the gal and then constantly demand maturity from her of ARchus level . As Savita rightly said for once ..WOH AAM LADKI HAI . So true.
Aam ladki is a very wrong justification of all of Shravani's shortcomings. Its as if we are so comfortable with mediocrity that we support and laud it. Having said that though, again I repeat - no one forced Shravani to come back. She threw a tantrum and people placated her. As for Archana, I dont think she is really threatening Manav's commitment in any sort of way to Shravani at all. Heck she didnt threaten while married, where is the premise for it now. She is not asking for any attention. She is reacting to (the highly improbable) circumstances that she is in. KS, I am sure you will agree there are a lot of widows, divorcees who just dont move on from the people they loved. They will never complain or remind anyone but they just stay married in their mind. Archana is nowhere around the kid or the Deshmukh family. I think in Shravani's case, if she just let Archana be, she would have a heck lot more sympathy from the viewer. Her insecurity comes from what she knows and not what is actually happening. My problem is, when you know he will never love you and wants to be with her, why would you stay there?Why shud it be so wrong to laud mediocrity or anything normal or common ? And why shud it be so wonderful to laud that which is uncommon and abnormal ? Especially if that which is abnormal or uncommon can cause a lot of heartbreak ? Giving up ur husband , giving pain to both inlaws and ur own family is what Archna did . By obstinately insisting on divorce when ALL were telling her NOT to divorce , just so that BHagwan wud get what he wished , ARchna opted to be uncommon and not mediocre and hurt so many people .............was it laudable ? What did she achieve by that ? Savita was crying for so many days and told her SUKH DEKE BAHUT DUKH DENE KI TUMHARI ADAT HAI ARCHNA. NOW U GO PLZ .SElfishly in her cOLLECTION OF MEMORIES PHASE she had not wondered how the full family will feel after she goes if they become crazily attached to her , did she ? She was focussed on COLLECTING MEMORIES . HOw UNCOMMON wasnt it ? But did that uncommon behaviour give anyone real happiness ? Manav is sad , Savita was crying , Damodar was drinking and vomiting blood , and Kaka died of an heart attack . [ Too much of a co incidence that the old dude popped off just after Archu left .Safe for us to assume that the old dude was unhappy and pressurized about all the going ons ......we see Archu reflecting on his BLESSING today ] . btw I wud not use the word mediocre here .......I wud use NORMAL . You say Your problem is when Shravni knows he doesnt love her why she still wants to stay there ...........I ask When Archna KNEW Manav LOVED Her and SHE LOVED MANAV why she divorce him ? My problem is THAT . U say that if Shravni just let Archna be , she wud get a lot of symnpathy from viewers ........well Taran , Shravni just lets Archna be...its Archna who runs after her ! Its Archna who doesnt let Shravni be , as I see it in this serial , infact Shravni doesnt want anything to do with Archna ! Right from the point when Archu plonked herself on her to nurse her to this point that Shravni is content at home with the baby and this arranbgement that btw BHagwan rather likes , Archu has yet one more time , without waiting for a day even phoned home on ANOTHER NUMBER ! And called Manav outside ! Leaving her sisters wedding ! Why , cudnt it wait for a day even ? Whenever Shravni cud not bear this kind of rushing forward to 'help' Manav and it got on her nerves she picked fights with Archna ! Had Archna not done that Why wud Shravni even look at her ?Now once again , she is getting involved via that interest in Sachu , the Mujhe Haq hai poochne ka emotional dialogues in Shravnis life and it will be expected Shravni shud just let Archna be .She shud be so obliged , so obliged that Archu was mahaan and divorced Manav that once more if Archu reenters her life and hovers around Sachu saying Mera Bachu she 'shud just let her be' to get viewer sympathy .Sorry dear , I differ here . Archu gave the divorce voluntarily ..just as u say didnt Shravni have own brains why she came back , Archu had her own brains yet she gave divorce by using them fully and a lotttt of deliberation na ?So now she shud stay away .......they honestly seem happy enough . Archus uncommon goodness caused the Deshmukh grief , mediocre Shravnis mediocre mistakes like pre marital sex before marraige and the baby that she gave them seems ro have brought a smile on their faces .😆
True , her curiosity is natural .Im not calling THAT strange .But cudnt she wait for one more day to cooly gather the facts from an outside source ? There r ways u know and they both live in Dombivli within 10 minutes distance of each other . But her emotional involvment is so great that the mOMENT she heard he is NOT married , BAS , she cudnt control herself . She phoned him at home , ran in mid traffic , left her sisters wedding preparations ..........was it coz she wanted to hear an answer subconsciously that Manav ultimately did NOT marry Shravni coz he loves Archu only ? Did Archus heart beat so fast coz she imagined this was the case is the question that comes to mind when one sees her desperation in that scene . And one feels PITY for her . It is saddening that the lead heroine shud get PITY not ADMIRATION . KS, Pity is what the creatives want to trigger so if they are getting pity, Archana has the audience's support. As for her running after him, I think it was a base instinct. She just needed to know. I am with you, I think a part of her wanted to hear that she was the reason he didnt marry. Again, this is all normal in my mind.
. Taran , just bcoz she became pregnant before marraige she doesnt desrve someone elses husband u say ...........but where did SHE snatch sumone elses husband ?The marraige was broken and here the husband was more after her coz his goal was getting her baby which was his brothers seed ........this was the story .The husband voluntarily THREW the first wife over for this goal of his ......Shravni has NOT snatched him with womanly viles please . If at all 3 times she ran away from them . Saying that no one dragged her She shud have given Archu the answer that U two guys carry on Im going ..........is very fine , but then may I ask who told Archu to run after her ? At least she has the baby to fall back on ............it all comes down , her coming back and everything in the first place .....ON her baby which she wanted to be part of Deshmukh family and Deshmukhs wanted it too . Each time she was manipulated for that baby , and she too gave in for that baby and the hope that Manav gave her . Plz dont ignore dear that the hope that Savita , Manav and Archu gave Shravni was tremendous . Indeed it was her mistake she shud have NOT come back but it is far lesser a mistake compared to the one Archna made in BRINGING her back inspite of knowing that Manav did not love her , and his full family wanted HER as a bahu not Shravni . Why create hope in that gals mind if u cud not deliver ? Let her go na ? Let her go where her fate takes her , she and her dad will see about that . She was at vulnerable stahe , just about to deliver baby , and these guys were constantly giving her all kinds of promises and hopes ...........I cannot help pitying her . Saying afterwards that Why , at that time shud have not come na , where was ur brain etc is a little callous in my opinion . So first give her hope , then when she accepts it say that u shudnt have accepted it , where were ur brains ........somehow , it sounds cruel to the gal . Better not stop her from taking HER decisions then ......Let her go when she was going .
True, she didnt snatch but she is party and a huge party to their divorce. Shravani has been insinuated in their lives and she relishes every minute of it. What is missing from her character is the subtle emotion of empathy. I will give you an example from my RL. Over the last weekend, we had promised our kids we would take them to a theme park and as luck would have it, on Saturday we had unexpected guests - hub's elderly aunt and uncle. Now knowing they wont appreciate anything at the themepark, we changed plans. Our three year old wouldnt have it. She kept insisting you promised, you promised. When we told her they couldnt come, she suggested very sweetly they could stay at home and watch TV while we went. Of course we didnt go but thats how Shravani's character is. He promised, they promised, Archana said she would divorce...all so childish. Where is her sensitivity chip? Cant she read Archana's misery or Manav's heartbreak? I think this is an injustice to the character that she is never shown any introspection or empathy - very very one dimensional. Hey Taran I agree with most of ur analysis but I dont agree with the fact tht Shravni has RELISHED every minute of being insinuated in their lives .Insinuated is not a fair word . Sachins death due to Manjus evil jail outcome and the tragedy that followed was hardly insinuation . I saw Shravni suffering every moment too , watching a happy , practical arrangement of marrying the elder BIL so baby cud stay in the family totally fall apart coz the soon to be divorced wife popped in and started playing Wifey right under her nose . They were fine till Archna returned that time and they r fine now when Archna has returned and is stirring tatrouble once more .Look Im not on Shravnis side here I see this from everyones POV and I dont agree that Shravni shud feel comfortable with Archna just coz Archu signed the divorce papers .A woman feels insecure emotionally too , who r we kidding? Its the woman thingy here Taran and fairness unfairness goes out of the window.
Never do I feel that way . Each one gets what she sows . Shravni gets misery coz she has come back inspite of Manav telling her I wont love u this and that .......Archna gets misery coz Archna does NOT believe in safeguarding what gifts God gives her in life ......be it husband , education opportunities , job , anything . I dont dislike her but I cannot empathise with her either . She is a character who just makes me shrug .
Disclaimer: I am not at all invested in Archana - a huge part of me doesnt relate to her at all. What I feel though, is give her her due. She has been very decent and always taken the moral high ground. She gave everything she has to everyone she has loved. I can certainly appreciate that. What I would like for is, for her to be happy according to her aspirations - that is being Manav's wife and serving her inlaws. Taran Archu chucked it all away .I like her for her basic goodness , I cannot appreciate her when she goes overboard . Then U must suffer ur own fate ...Ajit went overboard with evil behaviour and landed in a slum and is suffering , Archu went overboard with good behaviour , lost her marraige , hubby , life and is now alone mentally and still pining for Manav .
Btw, thank you for the response, today was slow at work so this kept me occupied ;)Ur Welcome .Always a pleasure discussing with u Taran .😊
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