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Posted: 15 years ago
Don't know what you mean by importance as a woman. Weren't you always saying that Savita and Manav have put things in Shravani's head by giving her more importance than Archana. Manav has cared more for Shravani over Archana? Is there anything great about Shravani to give her importance that she would deserve?
Importance as a woman means recognizing Shravni apart from being merely a baby carrier for the dEshmukh household . How is she as a woman ? How is her nature ? What r her likes , dislikes ?What is it that she desires ? What r her goals ?
Each one wants the baby , no one wants Shravni . Each one wants her money .........no one wants her . Savita wanted it and took it [ jewellery] Manav too ultimately took the 3 lacs from Girish and all of her seven lacs .
Physically she cud not do much as Archu did coz she was hampered by the pregnancy . She was advised to take it easy . But whenever she was asked or told that her money was being used , she did not object as such . Yet she was never given credit but dismissed off as she was rich so she never had value for the money anyway by a a viewership that was partial and loyal to Archna . Well I wud like to point out that Manju too comes from a rich family but has a lot more pettiness in her than Shravni .
Also I think it depends on each ones perspective whether Shravni desrves importance or not . In my opinion she does ......as she too is a human being . Archna too desrved self respect when she was being abused , but she herself devalued it saying in Shakkar philosophy woman loses her identity . In both these cases I dont agree that Shravnis unwed status shud deprive her of basic respect as a fiancee and Archus uneducated status shud deprive her of basic respect as a woman and she shud be made to eat in Kitchen .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arien_03

Lets not talk about legalities and morals with regards to Shravani. Her father's insistance on engagement and her being engaged to Manav was not legal either while Manav was still married. Sachin didn't put Savita's name coz he knew hoe greedy Savita was and he chose to put Shravani's name coz he had expected her to be his wife. He didn't know he'll die so soon and his fiancee will move so swiftly into getting engaged to his elder brother.

He didnt know he had impregnated her either , how about that ? She didnt move so swiftly and hook his bro .........his bro proposed marraige to her over and over again inspite of her reminding him that may be he needs to work more on his marraige to Archana. R u denying this ?
She fell in love later ...she did not hook him 'swiftly' after his death please !
Her father's insistence on Manav getting enaged albeit illegal [ coz i dont approve of it] .........in PR world has a reason .........he looked out for his daughter as the hero's first undivorced wife had turned up suddenly . And being an experienced man he wanted some sort of commitment for HIS daughter .
If anyone is to be blamed why r u not blaming 'poor' noble' Manav who cud have easily said 'NO' to this engagement coz he was in a far stronger position then to say 'NO ' To Girish who was depending on HIM to marry his daughter and save his honour in society ? What wud Girish have done if Manav had said NO ........I will get engaged only after Archu and I r legally divorced ? Manav agreed to both ....sindoor and engagement , rite ?
Btw in PR world .........even Sulochna had tried to get Archu enaged to Satish before the divorce . What legalities were Archu's holy family observing then ?
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Originally posted by: Arien_03

Ok tell me one thing if ArMan marriage was not heading for divorce and Sachin had died and Shravani was pregnant, then Manav would dump Archana to have Sachin's child in family? If the answer is 'No' then its a sacrifice.

No . Things r never so black and white , at least from MY perspective , dunno about urs dear . Nikita once very rightly said ..........his marraige had practically ended to the point of not having ANY HOPE , and he let himself be used like tissue paper for at least some semblance of happiness in form of Sachins child for his family .
So u see ........if at all he did sacrifice ........it was for HIS FAMILY , NOT FOR SHRAVNI . I am telling u , if Shravni today gives him alternative of marrying sumone else and givinf baby that second name ..........he wont like it a bit . His Mom wants the baby in their house and thats what he will try to do , get the baby the Deshmukh name !
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Importance as a woman means recognizing Shravni apart from being merely a baby carrier for the dEshmukh household . How is she as a woman ? How is her nature ? What r her likes , dislikes ?What is it that she desires ? What r her goals ?
Each one wants the baby , no one wants Shravni . Each one wants her money .........no one wants her . Savita wanted it and took it [ jewellery] Manav too ultimately took the 3 lacs from Girish and all of her seven lacs .

I beleive Manav is marrying Shravani to save her honour and give father's name to Sachin's child. I am not convinced that he wants the baby and thats the reason he is marrying her, hence I see it as a sacrifice. Thats true Manav doesn't want Shravani and neither did Shravani want Manav, Shravani wanted to give birth to the child hence she agreed to marry Manav. Now if she decides to change this situation to suit her needs then why should Manav start wanting her and start loving her as a woman?
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

If anyone is to be blamed why r u not blaming 'poor' noble' Manav who cud have easily said 'NO' to this engagement coz he was in a far stronger position then to say 'NO ' To Girish who was depending on HIM to marry his daughter and save his honour in society ? What wud Girish have done if Manav had said NO ........I will get engaged only after Archu and I r legally divorced ? Manav agreed to both ....sindoor and engagement , rite ?
Btw in PR world .........even Sulochna had tried to get Archu enaged to Satish before the divorce . What legalities were Archu's holy family observing then ?

How was Manav in stronger position to say 'No'.... it would look like he is making excuses to avoid making committment to the promise he made now that his wife has refused for divorce. Girishji tricked Manav into engagement and Shravani who was in strongest position to say 'No' to this engagement, played along with her father to secure her a husband in form of Manav.
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Posted: 15 years ago
Arien ........U tell me one thing ok . What do u think Manavs reaction will be if Shravni decides to go away with the baby ?
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Originally posted by: Arien_03

Shravani is not Sachin's widow, Manav has taken her and child's responsibility, while she is now claiming to be Manav's wife, why should she also claim insurance money from Sachin's death? Vandu is also Sachin's sister and hence was his responsibility too.

Sachin didn't lnow he had impregnated Shravani, how come the insurance money was for the child?
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Originally posted by: Arien_03

How was Manav in stronger position to say 'No'.... it would look like he is making excuses to avoid making committment to the promise he made now that his wife has refused for divorce. Girishji tricked Manav into engagement and Shravani who was in strongest position to say 'No' to this engagement, played along with her father to secure her a husband in form of Manav.

I will tell u how he was in a stronger position to say NO .
He was marrying Girish's unwed daughter and saving his honour in society .So who shud be grateful to whom ?Girish shud be grateful to Manav right ? Were there men lined up for Shravni despite his riches then ? No na ? And his stubborn daughter was OH SO NOT READY TO ABORT . Girish was trapped and Manav was his messiah .
What do u think wud have happened if Manav had bluntly told Girish ........Sorry , Archu is here to stay due to court order and due to common decency i cannot get engaged to Shravni here under her nose when divorce is yet to take place ,.It is question of two months ........I will do all these customs THEN ONLY .
What do u think Girish wud have done ? Was he in ANY position to throw a fit and break off with Manav even ?No , he wud have gone chipchaap to America .
Truth is , it was Savita Manav obeyed more than Girish .Savita , whm he cud never ever deny aNYTHING however wrong it was ! He put sindoor too coz Savita asked him to . In both cases , SHravni was quiet .
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Arien ........U tell me one thing ok . What do u think Manavs reaction will be if Shravni decides to go away with the baby ?

He will not let her go coz he promised her marriage, Shravani fell in love with him and is counting on him.... He'll be thinking of Shravani first not abt the baby.
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Posted: 15 years ago
Arien insurance nominee was Shravni .But the money was put by Deshmukh men in a fixed deposit for future use for Sachins child .

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