Daily Discussion Thread : 30th April - Page 13

Originally posted by: piya_10

ofcourse he wants to fix this nd he will all he needs a li'l miracle from Bappa 😊 let us all pray for him.

I have my fingers crossed for him . I would love him if he makes me loose the bet now . I will be happy because I think he still loves Archana very much and somewhere feels guilty for what has happened .

hello people!

I know I'm very late, and a lot of discussion has already taken place. Unfortunately I'm running late now and can't on the whole episode.

Shravani was justified in every sense to shout at Manav. But I don't know why - that action of Manav- taking money from Girishji for Varsha and not for garage- it doesn;t strike to me as something to shout about. Just my personal opinion. I thought about it all night, but still couldn't think that if I had been in Shrvani's shoes I would have shouted that way.

Truth is that I later felt- of course- I am not Shravani!!! Neither does Shravani's view point match mine. Manav's character is such- that he is not practical, he doesn't do things for himself- but for others. If suppose there had been an emergency of money for someone in his chawl, even then this golden hearted guy would have gone and asked Girishji for help. But he would never have gone for himself. I think Shravani was angry bcos he went for Archu and her family- I am telling you, if it had been to help someone else in his chawl, she wouldn't have shouted in this manner AT ALL!!! All I could see through today in her words was jealousy for Archu, that even today 'her' (?????) Manav cares a lot for Archu's family.

This thing, that I am talking about, was understood by Archu, who was immediately overwhelmed at her husband's behaviour- especially cos he did it for HER family. At the same time, she understood Shravani's jealousy- kudos to her.

And at the same time, I can understand why Manav is frustrated with her.
Wow.. I understand all the three- and I still haven't gone mad!!!!

Where the self respect thingy comes in - I think there are two types of self- respect- (Yes, me the genius devised this new concept- copyright!)- internal and external.

1.) External self respect- One that you show in front of others- that you keep up in front of others- like slapping himself in front of Rasika. It meant no deal to him, tolerating BS when he was being accused of cheating Varshu and yet running after Varshu to say that Ashwin is cheating her. That is also self-respect, but Manav chose to ignore it. If you don't keep it up, you end up humiliating youself in front of others. Like Manav has done, a number of times.

2.) Internal self- respect- Very very very important! And it is the true self respect- the self respect for yourself in your conscience- tht taunts you when you feel guilty of yourself. The self respect for himself that Manav lost when he got engaged in front of Archu- the self respect that Manav would have lost for himself if he had taken money for garage from Girishji cos then he would have accepted he was not capable of solving his own problems and fending for his family. Till that time, he and Tarun were doing things to sort out the matters (okay, mainly Tarun, since Tarun has the money and means to tackle such matters, but he was involved all the same) during Varsha's marriage, he did take money from Girishji FOR VARSHA cos it was an emergency, but with a firm resolve to satisfy his self respect that I will pay it back definitely.

Did you get bored of the whole thing? Or simply confused!!! Doesn't matter.. you see this is just a figment of my crazy brain.. am happy and in a crazy mood today- so wrote whatever came to my brain and heart first... i tend to overanalyse a lot sometimes hahaha!

And yeah.. for all those who think Manav is marrying Shravani for a selfish interest - the baby- here's an evidence from the show that proves otherwise!

There was a scene in which Shravani comes to Manav's chawl and all the chawl ladies taunt her saying she fell pregnant before marriage and call her 'badchalan'. At that time Manav shouts that Shrvani is not 'badchalan'. Turns out to be his day time nightmare. But it leaves him horribly perturbed. In the next scene Manav agrees for marriage.

Repeatedly Manav claims in the serial- I am doing this for Sachin, I am paying for Sachin's mistakes etc. Why???

So what I understand, or rather what the creatives want us to understand, is this- Manav considers the pregnant Shravani as a package- a mistake left by his brother Sachin. As such, he considers it 'his responsibility' to shoulder what was originally his brother's responsibility- not only to take care of the child, but also make sure that Shravani is not ridiculed in society for his brother's mistake.

Frequent recurrences to this occur again and again- in the hospital, when Manav and Shravani were talking once- Manav says- "You are making a compromise for the baby, I am making one for my brother."
(not baby)

Also when Damodar aska Manav why he is doing this- he says Sachin is my brother and it is my responsibility to correct what wrong he has done. He says- my life is wasted anyway, let this life be used for someone else's sake. (No mention of baby here).

And that is why I had said, that Manav has no hope in his marriage, so is letting himself be used as tissue paper to SAVE SHRAVANI'S RESPECT AND ALSO BRING SOME HAPPINESS BACK IN HIS FAMILY.

None of these are my interpretations. These are straightaway proofs from the story. Manav wants a future for Shravani and her baby- he clearly says to his Dad- if I don't marry, who will???? He doesn't have a vested selfish interest- the baby- unlike Savita. He wants a happy future for all. That's it.

I hope that answers your questions kools. Would love to read your views on this.

Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Shravani is right in being angry .

Archu is right in trying to see Shravani's point of view .

But today even Manav was right in saying that for once he wants something for himself as he is clearly fed up of the way things are ....

Today it was not about what Shravani wants or what Archu wants but it was what he wants .....

Spot on. Well said di. Now point to be considered is what he wants.we are waiting for his confession na.

Originally posted by: nikitagmc

And that is why I had said, that Manav has no hope in his marriage, so is letting himself be used as tissue paper to SAVE SHRAVANI'S RESPECT AND ALSO BRING SOME HAPPINESS BACK IN HIS FAMILY.

Very well said Nikki.

Hai Kool di.Happy to see your commentary😊.again it is great as usual.

I loved yesterday's episode.Everything was fine. Shravani's anger,archu defending shravani and Manav's fed up with archu supporting shravani and his desire to get back his wife and not to forget that emotional hug of sav aai and archu and final effort took by dam baba. everything was so well portrayed.I loved the episode. The hug was so emotional that I too felt like crying.Both anki and ushaji was great.And dam bab's effort has no words to explain.Again he is trying to make sav aai realize her mistake and trying to get back his bahu. Atlast manav is trying to say his wish indirectly.I think at this way when choo does something wrong then he will definitely withdraw from his commitment

All the reasons why Manav wanted to marry shravani are slowly vanishing into thin air.

I agree with both niki nd gauri. Here is my opinion. I dont think that just for PROMISE Thing manav will sacrifice archana. So its not just promise for him. Had it been just for promise he would have still stuck to marriage THEN HE SHOULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD HER FEELINGS IF HE CARes THAT MUCH FOR HER. Sure there are few things which is forcing him to do this. As niki said he thinks that its his responsibility to pay for his brothers mistake. Plus baby would get name too. TRUE AS gauri pointed out that society knows that she is pregnant. But they also know that she will have a husband soon and thats why they are not pointing their fingers much. Suppose if he doesnt marry her then tomorrow people will question her and taunt her by asking WHOSE SIN ARE YOU CARRYING and etc. Unfortunately creatives could have shown her to fly to america and everything would have been fine but they dont want to give a practical solution for that. And all those problems and difficulties which she will face will be because of manavs brother and manav is such kind that he will be ready to say for his mistakes. And manav doesnt know that savita has started to love archu and regrets the divorce. Savita still wants that baby . Thats my opinion.

Originally posted by: -ALI-

But they also know that she will have a husband soon and thats why they are not pointing their fingers much. Suppose if he doesnt marry her then tomorrow people will question her and taunt her by asking WHOSE SIN ARE YOU CARRYING and etc.

Ali,everyone knows already that Manav is marrying her bcoz she's carrying Sachin's child.

Originally posted by: nikitagmc

And yeah.. for all those who think Manav is marrying Shravani for a selfish interest - the baby- here's an evidence from the show that proves otherwise!

There was a scene in which Shravani comes to Manav's chawl and all the chawl ladies taunt her saying she fell pregnant before marriage and call her 'badchalan'. At that time Manav shouts that Shrvani is not 'badchalan'. Turns out to be his day time nightmare. But it leaves him horribly perturbed. In the next scene Manav agrees for marriage.

Repeatedly Manav claims in the serial- I am doing this for Sachin, I am paying for Sachin's mistakes etc. Why???

So what I understand, or rather what the creatives want us to understand, is this- Manav considers the pregnant Shravani as a package- a mistake left by his brother Sachin. As such, he considers it 'his responsibility' to shoulder what was originally his brother's responsibility- not only to take care of the child, but also make sure that Shravani is not ridiculed in society for his brother's mistake.

Frequent recurrences to this occur again and again- in the hospital, when Manav and Shravani were talking once- Manav says- "You are making a compromise for the baby, I am making one for my brother."
(not baby)

Also when Damodar aska Manav why he is doing this- he says Sachin is my brother and it is my responsibility to correct what wrong he has done. He says- my life is wasted anyway, let this life be used for someone else's sake. (No mention of baby here).

And that is why I had said, that Manav has no hope in his marriage, so is letting himself be used as tissue paper to SAVE SHRAVANI'S RESPECT AND ALSO BRING SOME HAPPINESS BACK IN HIS FAMILY.

None of these are my interpretations. These are straightaway proofs from the story. Manav wants a future for Shravani and her baby- he clearly says to his Dad- if I don't marry, who will???? He doesn't have a vested selfish interest- the baby- unlike Savita. He wants a happy future for all. That's it.

I hope that answers your questions kools. Would love to read your views on this.

Nikki, I had previousluy skipped over amost of the december epis found them too sad so I missed the daytime dream that he had. Just aw it and the other scenes you mentioned your right he has alsways mentioend tha the is gettting married to repent for Sahin's mistake. He knows that Sachin was capable of this because of the drama that happened at his wedding.

Savita on the other hand was doign this because of her dad's riches and the kid (sachin's last nishaani) and Sav also knows BTW, that Sachin was capable of this in fact she knows this better than Manav.

totally agree with your analysis also your previous post. 👏

I like your analysis so do not think that they are took long or overboard, between you defense of Manav, Kool's Manav bashing and Tanyadi's defense of Archu we get somewhat of a balanced picture of this horrid trainagle. 😃😃