Minnie's Father, From Ashok to HS - Page 22

Originally posted by: tk2015

Classis example was the honeymoon fight. Mini knows how to get through to her mother. I doubt HS alone would've made that inroad or gauged Babes' real problem with sharing a room.

Mini had to step in because she knows her mother. That's it. Plain and simple. HS would need Mini's help on some days regarding Babita much like he needs B's help to get through to M.

Once he gets a little more experience with both of them, I'm sure he too will learn to handle these relationships properly. Then Mini might be able to back off.

Totally agree, that's a great example.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Totally agree. I don't there's a switch on or off type of solution for this. It needs time and in some ways Minnie is also impatient as in she wants things to fit neatly and find a quick resolution. I understand that it comes from wanting her mother to be settled in properly and seeing her project come to fruition regarding giving her mother wings. What she doesn't quite see (and I don't blame her for it, since she is a kid after all) is that her mother is like a newly hatched bird who has wings but needs a bit of time to figure out how to fly and might even fall out of the nest in the process. The mama bird has to keep watch for a bit longer for a smooth transition.

She can't do a mother-daan to HS and then step back and I think she is starting to realize that now.

Don't know if it makes sense.

You make perfect sense. All this can be beautiful learnings for the audience too, but I wonder about the execution. Plus, KK do say they don't have a message to give. 🤔

Originally posted by: inlieu

She used to go to HS proactively in the past but doesn't seem to want to reach out to him anymore, given their current state. I am counting on NB but who knows if she will step in like she used to in the past.

Preet and Mickey give her moral support but they do not have the experience or wisdom to guide her the way she needs to be.

Plus, Preet Mickey can't gauge what is on HS' mind like he himself or his god li hui maa can. They can only support Mini, not help to mend those wounds regarding HS. That only NB-HS can do.

Originally posted by: tk2015

Classis example was the honeymoon fight. Mini knows how to get through to her mother. I doubt HS alone would've made that inroad or gauged Babes' real problem with sharing a room.

Mini had to step in because she knows her mother. That's it. Plain and simple. HS would need Mini's help on some days regarding Babita much like he needs B's help to get through to M.

Once he gets a little more experience with both of them, I'm sure he too will learn to handle these relationships properly. Then Mini might be able to back off.

Exactly. Mini knows her mother and knows how to get through to her in ways that HS just doesn’t know yet. He can learn over time but he definitely needs Mini in the interim to help him with Babita. I remember that scene after the proposal epi when Mini jokes with HS ki bike ho ya Babes, aapki gaadi meri help ke bina nahin chalegi 😆

I would say though that HS can get through to Mini on his own. He doesn’t necessarily need Babita for that. In fact, he trips up when he gets hung up on Babita’s take on his and Mini’s relationship....he does better when he handles it on his own.

But yes, overall they all need to find a balance and develop trust in each other’s ability to understand and handle things.

Originally posted by: tk2015

Plus, Preet Mickey can't gauge what is on HS' mind like he himself or his god li hui maa can. They can only support Mini, not help to mend those wounds regarding HS. That only NB-HS can do.

Yo baat phinal hai chhori.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Exactly. Mini knows her mother and knows how to get through to her in ways that HS just doesn’t know yet. He can learn over time but he definitely needs Mini in the interim to help him with Babita. I remember that scene after the proposal epi when Mini jokes with HS ki bike ho ya Babes, aapki gaadi meri help ke bina nahin chalegi 😆

I would say though that HS can get through to Mini on his own. He doesn’t necessarily need Babita for that. In fact, he trips up when he gets hung up on Babita’s take on his and Mini’s relationship....he does better when he handles it on his own.

But yes, overall they all need to find a balance and develop trust in each other’s ability to understand and handle things.

Lol that bike scene was so cute.

As for HS needing help regarding Mini: He needs Babita to help him figure out about Mini's childhood. Stuff he wasn't around for. I'm sure he was taken aback to realise that Mini had looked forward to birthday gifts from Ashok the most.

Stuff like that, if told in a proper manner of course, can provide HS a great insight into Mini's psyche.

If he knows all this stuff maybe he'll be able to approach her regarding this. Especially for the father tag, he'll have to know more about what Mini wants/wanted.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I agree, she has no idea how much HS knows her.

I remember when Minnie was writing in her diary that no one has really seen her. That's when I realized she was clueless about how HS saw her. Sure, he still has a lot to learn but he does get her.

It's such a shame that he lost all his self-confidence and is beginning to second-guess himself where Minnie is concerned, whereas once upon a time he used to instinctively know how to take charge of a situation and help her or support her. He is the same man, he just needs to forgive himself first for the CD mistake and take it upon himself to do better next time. People learn parenting over time, they don't know how to do it from day one and new parents always make mistakes no matter how hard they try to make things perfect for their child. HS will have to go through this journey too. If Minnie had been a baby/toddler a lot of these issues wouldn't have been there, but she's been through trauma and has psychological issues, is a strong-headed adult... He's got his hands full and he will have to learn to navigate all that.

Exactly. Parenting is a journey. No one becomes a perfect parent the instant they have a kid.

Even HS is kind of making the mistake of presuming that if he made one mistake, he doesn’t know how to be a father anymore. He’s waiting for someone else to tell him that yes, he can still be a father....that it’s a journey, not an instant result.

He has to learn to be more forgiving of himself and still keep the intent to be a father going. Right now he’s acting like he is incapable of it. Not true. Try karne se hi pehle haar mat maano, Thanedaar ji.

I want him to get out of this mindset of failure. He really doesn’t seem to get his own capabilities here. It’s not about being a perfect father who can’t make mistakes. It’s about being a father, period. Aur Mini ke father ek aap hi ho, HS ji. Phinal baat, no arguments.

Originally posted by: tk2015

Lol that bike scene was so cute.

As for HS needing help regarding Mini: He needs Babita to help him figure out about Mini's childhood. Stuff he wasn't around for. I'm sure he was taken aback to realise that Mini had looked forward to birthday gifts from Ashok the most.

Stuff like that, if told in a proper manner of course, can provide HS a great insight into Mini's psyche.

If he knows all this stuff maybe he'll be able to approach her regarding this. Especially for the father tag, he'll have to know more about what Mini wants/wanted.

Oh yes, you make a good point. He does seem to be missing information on that front. He needs to know more about Mini’s childhood to better understand her.

He otherwise gets where she is today....but he still needs to unlock her past, her childhood for a more fully formed picture.

This again ties back to that unfinished conversation with NB....there’s still a lot he needs to learn about Mini. I just hope that Babita can tell him nicely rather than taunting him or shouting it out to him during arguments.

I guess it would be too much to wish for ki Mini shares her childhood memories with HS on her own, haina? 🤔😆

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Oh yes, you make a good point. He does seem to be missing information on that front. He needs to know more about Mini’s childhood to better understand her.

He otherwise gets where she is today....but he still needs to unlock her past, her childhood for a more fully formed picture.

This again ties back to that unfinished conversation with NB....there’s still a lot he needs to learn about Mini. I just hope that Babita can tell him nicely rather than taunting him or shouting it out to him during arguments.

I guess it would be too much to wish for ki Mini shares her childhood memories with HS on her own, haina? 🤔😆

If Mini becomes this upfront about her own problems, her viewpoint of the journey and emotions regarding incidents toh phir adhe problems toh aise hi solve ho jayenge. 😆

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Meaning?

Her lack of focus on HS and what he wanted.

I know she didn't do it deliberately, but she will eventually have to also try to understand what his fears and insecurities were about.