The complicated web of relationships - Page 4

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Oh and the other thing that made me laugh so loud was irfaan saying why khurrans don't live with their kids despite them being well setlled hahahahah the pot is calling kettle black🤣 Irfaan mian aap kyon NB ko saath nahi rakh sakte despite being a lecturer at aligarh. Apna dikhai nahi deta dosron pe ungli uthao pehle khud aine main shakal dekh lo apni. I wish Hanuman said that to him vada aaya kahin ka chahudhry

Arey but he did say in the last scene with Khatri na that he wants to take his mom with him😆....that's his grand plan apparently....to sell the house and take his mom back with him to Aligarh.

But mujhe toh lag raha hai ki he wants to kill two birds with one stone....ghar bech ke paise milenge and NB ko saath le jaayenge to take care of the kid while the parents work.

HS aajkal neutral observer mode mein hai....kuch nahin bolega😆....bachpan ki dosti ka lihaaz and all😆

Again its not Babita's job to take care of the Khuranas. She did it for 17 years and only received abuse and insults in return. Now, that she's not obligated to anymore, she's completely justified to not want to keep them in her life. Yes, it might be selfish, but thats her choice.

Mini can maintain relationships with her grandparents all she wants and I agree Babita is wrong in expecting Mini to not meet her grandparents. Mini however is also wrong in saying that Babes is equally responsible for the torture she went through those 17 years. Wahhh.

Anyway it doesn't matter however much we discuss, we know cvs are again going the direction of making Babita feel guilty and asking maafi for her outburst. So, you are right, Babita will again be shown as a immature, selfish person jiska khud ka dimag nahi hai... usse us outburst jo dil se nikli ho, she apparently is wrong in feeling those. I am anyway done with the way cvs are going with Babita's character arc, so I could care less.

Fact is it's not insaniat whch is making Hanuman think if moving Khuranas to his Haveli.. it's solely Mini.. and another fact is that it is not insaniat which is making Mini worry about Khuranas.. it is her blood relation.. and it's not like Babita wants to throw Khuranas onto the street.. she is willing to help them financially but keep a distance from them emotionally and physically.. how is that being inhumane? Fact is Biji tried to stop Babita and not Lovely when she was spewing venom during the wedding ceremony.. that made it clear where her loyalty lies and that's what pushed Babita over the edge and that's what is making her worried that Biji would poison minis mind against her.. her happy moments will come again but for now she needs time and it's not unreasonable if she expects Hanuman and Mini to respect that.. Is it fair to keep Mini away from Khuranas forever? No.. but till the time that she overcomes her bitterness, it is not too much to expect..

Let's not forget that it is because of Babita that Mini got her Grandparents back in her life.. warna they had broken all ties with her, which of course Minj seems to have conveniently forgotten.. tab the old and feeble Khuranas did give two hoots about Mini and what she would go through.. Babita had to cry and request them to meet Mini

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Hey i don't want to comment on your personal experience as am noone to do so but just have to say at bold you yourself said you do it as a duty it is not like you or your family have cut ties as is b3ing expected from babita because in realitu these things are hard and you really need to not have a heart to abandon someone just caz bad karma or whatever. Noone is saying babita should do seva or anything or she is obligated to put her life on hold nope all we are saying is she can think of it as mini'a duty towards her grandparents too esp when they haven't wronged mini at all. They are a separate entity from ashok and that's it. She cannot decide for mini and her grandparents and what kind of relationship they want to share

But my parents are together. They have a wonderful Marriage. They go lengths for each other. Hence, Mom does so for my father.

Babita is divorcee. Mini can have her relations with her grandparents. Babita is stopping her but she will learn to understand that. My problem is expecting Babita to take them under same roof.

I stay away here in USA, I don’t do anything for my grandparents. It’s absolutely unfair if I call my mom and tell her that I have feelings for grandparents, you please look after them. Am I going to do anything? No.

Mini will go to college. Will be busy in her life exams. HS to his thane. Who ends up doing things for Khuranas? Babita. Cooks for them. Does chores after them.

I don’t agree about old age here. What if someone tortured their Bahu all their life for dowry and various other things, their time comes and they become ill so they start giving old age duhaai? Should they be forgiven? Why?

It’s like you do bad all your life but old age mein to you will be execused coz old age hai to chalta hai.

What do they say? You reap what you sow. Khuranas kids is what they sowed. Extremely selfish. And Babita was fine with them. But even in her wedding Lovely taunted her and Biji sided with lovely. That was last straw. I do not blame Babita at all for not wanting to do anything wit them. She is so right.

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Hahah nice joke😆 As if mini has not seen how much ashok and lovely care for her beeni dadu as if she hasn't seen how they have abandoned her when she needed the very same ashok and lovely. What makes you think that they will come running for them as of ashok isn't the reason they are forced to live with NB in this state. Mini is only being sensible what is the point of calling the behiss log that are the reason in first place for putting them in this syate

I agree....jo log responsibility lene ke laayak hi nahin hain, unse kya expect karein. This is typical Mini....didn't she try to take responsibility for her mother as well when she was helpless?

Anyways, I think Babita ka phobia yeh hai ki kahin Khuranas ko dekh ke automatically uska seva mode na activate ho jaaye....control na kar paaye apna seva bhaav😆.....and she may get carried away doing seva again and neglecting her pati....phir wohi same cycle phir se....wohi gile shikve etc. etc.....lol

So she wants to stay away from Khuranas so that they don't activate the seva gene in her😆......koi seva maange ya na maange, yeh khud se seva karne lag padegi.....yehi darr hoga isko.....just like HS ke case mein bhi koi twisted darr hi nikla tha in the end despite all the excuses she made of "time chahiye" etc.....lol

I don't trust any reason she gives for a situation when she's throwing tantrums.....she hides the real reason in her head and coax kar kar ke hi bolti hai.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: They are not always excused. That is your perspective if that's what you think I do.

Rest, we can agree to disagree. No point going into details when minds are made up on both sides.

I don’t have issue with opposing opinions.

It’s the insinuation that opposing opinions are sad is what I don’t get.

Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi

I don’t have issue with opposing opinions.

It’s the insinuation that opposing opinions are sad is what I don’t get.

What do you want me to say? I also don't get many things you say. Toh let's just end the discussion na. Aap ko jahaan comfortable feel hota hai, aap wahaan discuss kar lo. If we don't get what either of us is saying, toh phir kya baat karni?

I will avoid any "insinuations" in the future. Khush raho aap.

Originally posted by: LoveInAutumn26

Again its not Babita's job to take care of the Khuranas. She did it for 17 years and only received abuse and insults in return. Now, that she's not obligated to anymore, she's completely justified to not want to keep them in her life. Yes, it might be selfish, but thats her choice.

Mini can maintain relationships with her grandparents all she wants and I agree Babita is wrong in expecting Mini to not meet her grandparents. Mini however is also wrong in saying that Babes is equally responsible for the torture she went through those 17 years. Wahhh.

Anyway it doesn't matter however much we discuss, we know cvs are again going the direction of making Babita feel guilty and asking maafi for her outburst. So, you are right, Babita will again be shown as a immature, selfish person jiska khud ka dimag nahi hai... usse us outburst jo dil se nikli ho, she apparently is wrong in feeling those. I am anyway done with the way cvs are going with Babita's character arc, so I could care less.

I made a lot of points in my original post that aren't being addressed....

1) If those 17 years were all torture, why did her in-laws support her in getting a BA?

2) Does the CD not remind Babita of "kadvi yaadein"? So why not toss that out just like she tossed out the grandparents?

Yeh do points conveniently ignore ho rahe hain🤷‍♀️

Originally posted by: AreYaar

What do you want me to say? I also don't get many things you say. Toh let's just end the discussion na. Aap ko jahaan comfortable feel hota hai, aap wahaan discuss kar lo. If we don't get what either of us is saying, toh phir kya baat karni?

I will avoid any "insinuations" in the future. Khush raho aap.

I don’t want anyone to say anything. We are discussing a show. Opposing opinions welcomed. Only agreement mein to maja kya hai.

But I will let it be. As you wish. As you like.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

This is what I think it's going to come down to in a nutshell:

Babita never exerted for and demanded her rights as a wife because she felt obligated to be liked as a BAHU over a WIFE....and Khuranas ko comfort mil raha tha so they also never objected....she expected THEM to stick up for HER rights.....she didn't stick up for her own cuz she feared they wouldn't like her if she did.

Even now, she has this core need to be LIKED....that is what drives everything she does.....kuch log inherently hote hain aise.....

What she has to learn is that it's not black and white....you can all co-exist together even with your rights, your haq intact.....becoming a bahu doesn't mean you won't be able to be a wife.....one relationship doesn't have to be sacrificed for the other provided you communicate your rights and expectations clearly without tossing out ultimatums and tantrums.

Haq maango....lekin dignity se....not like a child asking for their favorite toy.

It would be nice if that is the ultimate resolution for this track.....Babita and Khuranas talking to each other clearly about where they both went wrong rather than one party stewing in victimhood.

After all this ends, and supposedly NB house is no longer available, where do you think the Khuranas should stay?