The complicated web of relationships - Page 2

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Haha sorry, mera take late evening mein hi aata hai.....I'm last to get to the epi after what I guess is a whole day of frenzied discussion for you all😆

Babita is making a mess of the situation as usual. The issue isn't that she isn't entitled to wanting to break free of past memories....the issue is how she's handling it....in an immature, tamashe wala fashion as usual....with outbursts, ultimatums to Mini or HS....that's no way to handle things.

And HS is back to coddling her....LOL I can only shake my head....all this puchkaaroing is going to come back to bite him😆.....he's trying to treat her gently rather than actually trying to delve into her twisted thoughts that drive her behavior. She says one thing, but is actually thinking a whole another.

How much do you want to bet ki end mein khud hi rote rote patch up karegi Daadu Beeji se? 😛😆.....and without any pressure from HS or Mini....lol khud se karegi I think....the reason they may come to live in the house temporarily is exactly to show Babita that she can't blame her entire past simply on them holding her back.....she seems to think ki if they have any presence in her current life, they would hold her back from enjoying marital bliss again.

When the actual fact of the matter is that she didn't step up to assert her rights in her first marriage....as HS also mentioned to her last week....pyar mein haq nahin maanga aur saara blame sirf dusron pe daal diya....it takes two....and that is what she has to learn.

HS coddling her and Minnie both... recipe for disaster, especially since they both have different opinions about the Khuranas. I don't think he can remain neutral even if he wants to. Let him pamper them if he wants to, it might be a no-frills few days for him, or so he thinks.

If Babita wants to reconcile with them, it's her wish, but she should only do it because she wants to and not because she feels compelled to.

Originally posted by: inlieu

HS coddling her and Minnie both... recipe for disaster, especially since they both have different opinions about the Khuranas. I don't think he can remain neutral even if he wants to. Let him pamper them if he wants to, it might be a no-frills few days for him, or so he thinks.

If Babita wants to reconcile with them, it's her wish, but she should only do it because she wants to and not because she feels compelled to.

As I mentioned in my post, nobody compelled her to maintain the relationship with them post the divorce....she did that on her own.....LOL so why now the presumption that she will be compelled to do so?

Babita has proven that most of what she says is not really what she's thinking....time and time again....and you still take her for her word? 😆

As I said, I'm willing to bet she will herself unravel and make up with the grandparents....she is projecting all this bitterness right now to hide whatever twisted emotions she has of her time with them.....as usual, it's some fear driving her that will have to be talked through.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

So then why is Mini being criticized for this? .....ab humane and kind behavior towards elders is also cause for being put down? Jai ho😆.....Yes, let's all strive only and only to be selfish in life.....let's never try to strike a balance.....ya toh mahaan laachaar bane raho, ya totally selfish....sahi hai. 😆

I think Minnie's right to care about them but wrong to hide it from Babita. I guess she thinks its easier to hide it than to have that difficult conversation with her mother, which is something she doesn't feel comfortable doing right now. Well, Babita found out so that confrontation is about to happen.

People are criticizing Minnie for being humane towards her grandparents? Seriously??

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Exactly CD rakhi thi jaise usme supposedly zaalim in laws nahi thay. I am rather finding it funny how people want the khurrannas to just disappear in thin air now esp when theu weren't intentionally rude or torturous and from their perspective only uave showered love on mini amd babita. Now this doesn't get them a free pass from all the hurt and pain they unintentionally caused babita but they weren't the worse and just because she now suddenly has changed her mind and decided to severe ties with them doesn't mean she leaves them helpless forget amy rishta as ypu saod their is a basic courtesy. Just think of ot as that way that they were the protective umbrella for babita for 17 years if bot for them ashok would've ripped her apart years ago even after they left home the khurranas in theor capacity have looked out for her even if from the fences but the dadu never not keep on touch he used to come and look out for them warna unhein kya padi thi agar they were this zaalim mean susralis as babita is making them out to be. Nobody deserves this in this age agar babota bhi aise hi behave laregi toh frabkly usme aur unke mean bachon main farak kya reh gaya. Basic insaniyat toh dikha hi sakte hain. Paise dene se acha get them a place to syay if you don't want to do seva again which is understandable also kal tak toh mini ko lessons de rahi thi about how beeji And dadu should ve respected etc etc and now that mini is actually dping all babita taught her she is doing stuff wrong oh come on babita. Mini is just being a well mannered kid with attachment to her grandparents you can't take that away from either of them esp when you haven't drawn the lines when you officially broke up with aahok tab toh halwe /cake bana bana ke bhejti thi inhi "zaalim" logon ke liye when she didn't had too they never asked her too but then mahaan banana tha na phir ek tarah ashok ki baat hi sachi kar di that she was chalu ke apne jaal main phansa ke rakhoon aise apni muthi main rakhoon lol

Arey hai na insaaniyat....they gave her a token dialogue today about how she isn't some raakshas who doesn't see that bechaare buddhe ho gaye hain and need care....she sees it....but she doesn't care....LOL....HONESTLY apna viewpoint de rahi hai....she just doesn't want them around....jahaan marzi jaayein...she doesn't want to think about it.....nahin sochegi toh problem bhi nahin rahegi....very "mature" way of handling any uncomfortable thing😆

Originally posted by: AreYaar

This is what I think it's going to come down to in a nutshell:

Babita never exerted for and demanded her rights as a wife because she felt obligated to be liked as a BAHU over a WIFE....and Khuranas ko comfort mil raha tha so they also never objected....she expected THEM to stick up for HER rights.....she didn't stick up for her own cuz she feared they wouldn't like her if she did.

Even now, she has this core need to be LIKED....that is what drives everything she does.....kuch log inherently hote hain aise.....

What she has to learn is that it's not black and white....you can all co-exist together even with your rights, your haq intact.....becoming a bahu doesn't mean you won't be able to be a wife.....one relationship doesn't have to be sacrificed for the other provided you communicate your rights and expectations clearly without tossing out ultimatums and tantrums.

Haq maango....lekin dignity se....not like a child asking for their favorite toy.

It would be nice if that is the ultimate resolution for this track.....Babita and Khuranas talking to each other clearly about where they both went wrong rather than one party stewing in victimhood.

@bold, easier said than done. There's so much bitterness all round. I would hope Dadu would take the lead and find a way to make peace.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I think Minnie's right to care about them but wrong to hide it from Babita. I guess she thinks its easier to hide it than to have that difficult conversation with her mother, which is something she doesn't feel comfortable doing right now. Well, Babita found out so that confrontation is about to happen.

People are criticizing Minnie for being humane towards her grandparents? Seriously??

LOL why are you acting surprised? Isn't Mini being mocked since morning for "putting Babita through this"? 😆

And why won't she hide things from Babita given how Babita is reacting? She's proven once again that she doesn't care about the hiding....she just stubbornly wants Mini to break off from the grandparents.

Babita scope kahaan rakhti hai communication ka? She just gives ultimatums to people....lol and people are expected to work around them.

I can't blame Mini this time...she's in a very tight spot because she cares about her grandparents and cares about her Mom too....her Mom unfortunately is as usual caught up in her own head and hasn't taken a moment to consider her child's emotions....suddenly she's forgotten how attached Mini is to her grandparents.....lol

Oh and also more than babita ka tantrum caz she toh chalo has a grudge all of a sudden cropping up in her mind against them i am finding the audience reactions funny like seriously 🙄 put yourself in palce of babita and mini would you just abandom somebody like this. Sorry kehna asaan hai but in reality aise hi keh dene se sab toot and choot mahi jaata given if you have a heart. So many times people tend to keep fulfilling their responsobilities and take the ones that aren't even theirs to begin with out of reapect out of humanity. How can she overnight forget all the goodthings khurrannas have done for her. No am not a fan of them or think they are saints but still. And more than anyone else babita should be understanding this homelessness and this helplesaness because not very long ago she was in the same state unwanted by all almost pushed to live on street. Had it not been for HS and mini forcing her babita khid kahan jaati toh aur kuch nahi thoda daya hi kha le and khuda ka khauff kha le caz she has gone through that

Oh lol she did have a line me woh raksha nahi hahah oh babita you are funny sorey i have yet to watch the epi

Of course Mini and HS - mahaan duo.

I hope Mini does Khuranas chores. Cooks for them. Handles their flip flopping and so on.

Unfortunately, everything will be dumped on Babita.

I have seen my mother do this for 37 years of her life. Still doing it. Without single word of appreciation. I have lagaav but respect is I struggle to find. Some real years she has spent sacrificing and sacrificing. I have lovely type of person too in our life. It’s sad when I think back to all those years and bitter moments. It still sometimes bothers my mom. We all do it as our duty. It makes my father happy. But it’s not fair to my Mom.

I agree about empathy for elders. But it doesn’t take away from your bad karmas. So someone who does injustice, should be excused coz they are elder? What about the message that you do good, you reap good. This is like torture Bahu but at the end on humanitarian ground, she has to look after you.

Mini can have her relationship with her grandparents independently but I don’t think it’s fair to expect Babita to have anything to do with them. Her suggestions were all valid and practical.

Also, HS was hiding behind NB when he himself just 2-3 days back asked Babita to be honest and not hide behind Mini. He should’ve come clear to her. Practice what you preach.

Also, Mini and Hs can’t always be excused. I get that some have deeper attachment with the 2. But then some of us do not feel so. I disagree with different characters at different times. I have bashed Babes too. We all can have our opinions.

Originally posted by: inlieu

@bold, easier said than done. There's so much bitterness all round. I would hope Dadu would take the lead and find a way to make peace.

He will, most likely have some emotional speech to give....that's the PB way of resolving things😆....end mein sab emotional hoke maan jaate hain.

Which is why I find all this jhande morche gaadna really funny😆.....grandparents ko blacklist karne ka koi point nahin.....Babita needs to resolve that part of her past properly rather than just wishing it away.

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Oh and also more than babita ka tantrum caz she toh chalo has a grudge all of a sudden cropping up in her mind against them i am finding the audience reactions funny like seriously 🙄 put yourself in palce of babita and mini would you just abandom somebody like this. Sorry kehna asaan hai but in reality aise hi keh dene se sab toot and choot mahi jaata given if you have a heart. So many times people tend to keep fulfilling their responsobilities and take the ones that aren't even theirs to begin with out of reapect out of humanity. How can she overnight forget all the goodthings khurrannas have done for her. No am not a fan of them or think they are saints but still. And more than anyone else babita should be understanding this homelessness and this helplesaness because not very long ago she was in the same state unwanted by all almost pushed to live on street. Had it not been for HS and mini forcing her babita khid kahan jaati toh aur kuch nahi thoda daya hi kha le and khuda ka khauff kha le caz she has gone through that

Oh lol she did have a line me woh raksha nahi hahah oh babita you are funny sorey i have yet to watch the epi

🤣....Tu itna gyaan without watching the epi de rahi hai?😆

I'm not a fan of the Khuranas either and I very much remember the selfish things they've done....but I'm talking about the realities of life.....old age mein sab saath chhod dete hain.....but kisi ko toh step up karna padta hai.....is it always "fair" who ends up being the one taking responsibility? No it's not....but life isn't always fair....you work within what you get....there are no perfect solutions.

And same.....main bhi wohi soch rahi thi....Babita herself has seen times where she was helpless and homeless in a sense.....tab HS ne madad ki, NB ne madad ki.....ab wohi log Khuranas ki madad kar rahe hain when they are in a helpless state toh chubh raha hai? lol sab apne apne perspective se hi dekhte hain.

Neither are the Khuranas saints, nor are they monsters.....and same goes for Babita.