Pandya Store|Episode Discussion#80|Teri Meri Shaadi Khatam (YELLOW) - Page 113

Originally posted by: ValleyOfPeace

One day at a time then...

It will be better🌸🌸

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Originally posted by: funny_fubar

I have truly lost hope that the full truth is going to come out.

Looks like there might be some pining, Shiva will apologize and the matter will be swept under the rug, ending with a YKB 😕

I am going to keep my expectations low. I sincerely doubt there is going to be growth or redemption on Raavi's end. 😐

The fear of YKB is real 😆 hopefully, it won't be like Rishita's half an episode worth of redemption arc 😆

But seriously, Raavi will continue her blame game for a bit before someone else shows her the mirror. I'm betting on either Suman or Shiva.

Disclaimer: This post may ended being excessively long owing to the fact that I have never myself nor seen the forum so conflicted about an episode. Please bare with me as I try to piece together my own thoughts 😆😳

Right off the bat, I am quite annoyed with the disillusionments that the entire Pandya Parivar has about Shiva and Raavi's relationship. Forget the past few weeks, just going based off of the yatra - it doesn't seem to me that they were traveling on the same yatra that we were watching. Did they not witness and comment on how Shiva and Raavi were continuously arguing with each other during the yatra? How is it even plausible to think that they will go from fighting like cats and dogs to romancing on a bike? 🤪 Especially disappointed with Krish and Gaumbi - since they seem to notice whenever Shiva and Raavi are gravitating towards each other, but conveniently turn a blind eye when they are mercilessly taunting each other?

I'll admit, my heart went out to Raavi when she hugged Dhara and started sobbing. The past few days we have started noticing more about Shiva and how is mental health must be affected by her words and the way she acts with him - however, that does not diminish the mental trauma that she has been going through as well and it's clearly written on her face. They have both been through so much at the expense of each other and it's heartbreaking to see her finally breakdown - and to have to turn to the one person who may have been her confidante in the past, but now is someone who just wants to sweep things under the rug or beat the concept of 'respect' into people. These are the times I wish there was someone else - someone not from the Pandya Parivar who could have gathered Raavi in their arms and given her the consolation she needs.

A nitt picky side note - but why is Rishita always tasked with the responsibility of bringing water whenever there is some family showdown/breakdown going on? What is the need to bring this up all the time? I know it's barely relevant but it just irked me 😆

I didn't really understand Gaumbi's pajama reference but I got the gist. Why is his first reaction to yell at Shiva when moments ago they were worried about Shiva's whereabouts? 😕 It just doesn't sit well with me that right of the bat, Gaumbi's instinct was to yell at Shiva rather than asking him what's wrong. He is supposedly the most level headed out of all of them but somehow he seems to see the worst in his brothers as opposed to others, especially Shiva.

I personally didn't find what Shiva said was wrong. His language this time was completely different and in my opinion he was just stating that Raavi likes a certain type of boys and I don't meet her preference. I might have misinterpreted it but to me it didn't seem to be questioning her character. Obviously it's world's difference than what he said yesterday - but Gaumbi didn't know what he said, then why was his reaction so extreme? And again, what is it with everyone's immediate reaction resorting to violence? Side note: it was bit comical to watch as well, a bit poor acting in my opinion from Kinshuk's side. On top of that, his broken record of "maan toh karaha hai tujhe..." was annoying af.

Again, Raavi cannot put her point across without demeaning Shiva in the process. Why? "Rakshas", "Vaisa ka vaisa hi hai" - and then you claim that you don't think about him in that way and your views have completely changed since the marriage. I understand that he acted out and that must make you question your thoughts about him, but how did you do a complete 180 in the span of a day? How is anyone supposed to believe that you like him for him if whenever the going gets tough, all you can do is spew venom towards him? I mean clearly you don't regret what you used to say about him and somewhere in the back of your mind still believe it to be true. One thing she got right was that he doesn't respect her at all but I hope she realizes that she doesn't either.

I don't think I fully understood how digusting Shiva's words were due to some translation issues until today and this is the time that I felt Gaumbi and everyone else's anger was justified. No amount of anger or pain excuses what he said and I simply cannot stand behind it, no matter how much my heart goes out to him or sympathizes with him. It was despicable. But then again, why?!?! WHY do Gaumbi and Suman resort to physical violence? Has the daanda kaand not taught anyone anything? Why can this anger not be expressed with words? Why this show of physically hurting someone because you can't adequately express what you're feeling with your words?

For the sake of my sanity, I am ignoring any reactions from Dev and Rishita - so don't be surprised if you don't find any further mention of them.

Kanta Kaki, thank you for telling them both sides otherwise the blame game would have only fallen on Shiva - however, that's the extent of my support for you. You only seemed to sympathize with Shiva's bezatti and not Raavi's - and I don't agree with that at all. Lines such as "ek pati ke liye kitni bezatti ki baat hogi tu kya jaanthi hai" don't sit well with me at all. Of course, this may just be an assumption of mine but from your words it seemed to me that you were okay with what Shiva did but not Raavi. Again, I could be totally wrong.

Not going to dwell on Anita and Maami's scene - it was just another receptive scene with them having the same roundabout script. Nothing to talk about here except the foreshadowing of Raavi leaving the house 🤪

What I liked is that Raavi didn't beat around the bush, owned up to the fact that she slapped him, and owed it to an impulsive reaction to his words. Had she said these words last episode as well, I would have liked it much better. But at least, I'm glad that she left it at yes, I slapped him and didn't dive into her whole spiel about how his junglee mannerisms have rubbed off on her.

Suman throws a fit yet again - am I glad that her anger has shifted a bit from Shiva to Raavi? Yes, absolutely. But she's completely lost it with her throwing around stuff. She's always threatening everyone with her daanda - how are Dhara and the brothers not going to be affected by such an upbringing? When she resorts to threatening physically violence to shut them up all the time, how are they not supposed to learn that this is the way to solve problems?

I don't really have a specific reaction to Dhara to be very honest. Neither was I disappointed, nor affected nor interested to be honest in what she had to say - whether she was taking Raavi or Shiva's side. Her character has become so wish washy post-marriage that anything that comes out of her mouth has no weightage for me. I simply don't care for her over the top reactions. She still cannot seem to differentiate between right and wrong, when and when not to support Shiva - it's annoying and not worth it.

Again, Suman stopping Dhara had no effect when she does the same thing. It's hypocritical to me. I can feel her pain whenever Shiva is insulted and hit but that's due to Kruttika's amazing acting. Otherwise, all she knows how to do is preach. That being said, I am glad she finally said what we all wanted to hear - separate, mf please separate. All the other times she has threatened that if Raavi leaves then she'll never be able to come back but this time she's giving the green light herself - thank fcuk. Side note: what was the weird music they put in when she declared that? it was a happy tune, was it the makers trolling us because they knew we wanted a separation? 😆

I liked the little tidbit of insight that Suman gave on her own marriage - a true comparison between what she had and what ShiVi are sorely lacking in their marriage - the major component being respect and she recognizes that neither of them currently harbor any respect for the other.

Here goes Raavi again, putting them blame all on Shiva 🤢 girl, just because you were determined on compromising and adjusting to this forced marriage, doesn't mean you had any respect for the marriage and the relationship you shared with Shiva. It's a two way street.

I was okay with Shiva's anger and was expecting it too, fine whatever - we get it, you get angry all the time woohoo. But I didn't like that he said "bahoth badi nak wali hai na" in response to her saying that she can't live with someone that questions her character. To me that shows he isn't regretful about what he said.

What really made me mad and I might just be overthinking it, but I rewatched this part three times to be sure and I swear to god Shiva smirked when Suman told Raavi to pack her things up and leave. He had a hint of relief in there and man it sent me soaring in rage. Nope, I don't like it - I don't like it at all. I really hope I am just seeing things or it was editing or it just wasn't there and I have gone crazy.

Keeping my other thoughts about her aside, I highly appreciate Suman from this scene onwards. She told Raavi to leave - YES. She told Shiva to leave - YES. She's the only one that seems to understand that both of them have wronged each other and both of them deserve to deal with the consequences. This is a step away from the typical mother in law who is obsessed with her son and can't see right or wrong - THIS is what we like to see!! YES!!

My most favorite scene hands down --> Suman telling Shiva that Raavi slapping him was wrong but he was equally wrong for questioning her character.

And now I finally see that guilt on Shiva's face, I see the regret and my heart sighs in relief - not because I want him to wallow in misery but because I know that he is capable of learning from the error of his ways and making up for it. He has that maturity and understanding. Raavi, on the other hand, I have no such expectations from her. All I see is anger and more anger - I really don't think they're heading towards a track where she realizes her own mistakes as well. But who knows maybe we'll be surprised?

The way his gaze lingers on Raavi for more than just a second, the guilt and sadness in his eyes AHHH. I don't want him falling into the pit of self-hatred again, he doesn't deserve it after all that he's been through. Please don't do him dirty anymore, please.

Overall - I am taking back my extreme dark red and replacing it with yellow. As I mentioned before, I was pretty disheartened with the back and forth insults and threats of physical violence which is why it cannot be green for me but watching it the second time around with a clear mind, I liked the episode significantly better. Content wise it's headed on the right track thanks to Suman picking up on the real problem and dare I say - I'm hopeful? 😆

If you made it to the end of this post, I salute you 🤣

Originally posted by: Shadow_kira

I didn't really want a Dhara conversation. I'm just surprised that she ganged up on him too after 2 lines from Raavi. She's the same one who called him khara sona and everything. But today, she changed teams so fast that I was blindsided lol

@bold- she is getting yelled at Raavi tomorrow. But I won't talk about it now because I don't know if they'll justify it correctly.

Im waiting to see how the scene turns out tomorrow. I would be happy if she gets a taste of bitter medicine from Ravi. After all she should know how Shiva feels when he gets to hears it often.🤔🤔

Originally posted by: Shadow_kira

Raavi is usually the one to start blaming while Shiva is usually reactionary.

He was silent when he came in, stayed silent when everyone was demanding an explanation and left silently too.

Raavi is the one who started narrating what happened...Shiva reacted by repeating the taunts.🤔

Raavi said she doesn't want to live here...he said get out. 🤔

Kinda reminds me of the dialogue shant Shiva ko chedo mat.

On a lighter note, when he said pehli fursat mein nikal I started laughing lmao

Originally posted by: srix

On a lighter note, when he said pehli fursat mein nikal I started laughing lmao

I agree Raavi was wrong and saying nonsense but that was really insulting and harsh.

Originally posted by: ShinyShine

I agree Raavi was wrong and saying nonsense but that was really insulting and harsh.

Oh believe me it was. Seemed like he didn't regret it, until the very end post Suman convo. I need to rewatch but yes. They treat each other the same way they did before marriage, if not worse.

Originally posted by: SlytherInMe.

Disclaimer: This post may ended being excessively long owing to the fact that I have never myself nor seen the forum so conflicted about an episode. Please bare with me as I try to piece together my own thoughts 😆😳

Right off the bat, I am quite annoyed with the disillusionments that the entire Pandya Parivar has about Shiva and Raavi's relationship. Forget the past few weeks, just going based off of the yatra - it doesn't seem to me that they were traveling on the same yatra that we were watching. Did they not witness and comment on how Shiva and Raavi were continuously arguing with each other during the yatra? How is it even plausible to think that they will go from fighting like cats and dogs to romancing on a bike? 🤪 Especially disappointed with Krish and Gaumbi - since they seem to notice whenever Shiva and Raavi are gravitating towards each other, but conveniently turn a blind eye when they are mercilessly taunting each other?

I'll admit, my heart went out to Raavi when she hugged Dhara and started sobbing. The past few days we have started noticing more about Shiva and how is mental health must be affected by her words and the way she acts with him - however, that does not diminish the mental trauma that she has been going through as well and it's clearly written on her face. They have both been through so much at the expense of each other and it's heartbreaking to see her finally breakdown - and to have to turn to the one person who may have been her confidante in the past, but now is someone who just wants to sweep things under the rug or beat the concept of 'respect' into people. These are the times I wish there was someone else - someone not from the Pandya Parivar who could have gathered Raavi in their arms and given her the consolation she needs.

A nitt picky side note - but why is Rishita always tasked with the responsibility of bringing water whenever there is some family showdown/breakdown going on? What is the need to bring this up all the time? I know it's barely relevant but it just irked me 😆

I didn't really understand Gaumbi's pajama reference but I got the gist. Why is his first reaction to yell at Shiva when moments ago they were worried about Shiva's whereabouts? 😕 It just doesn't sit well with me that right of the bat, Gaumbi's instinct was to yell at Shiva rather than asking him what's wrong. He is supposedly the most level headed out of all of them but somehow he seems to see the worst in his brothers as opposed to others, especially Shiva.

I personally didn't find what Shiva said was wrong. His language this time was completely different and in my opinion he was just stating that Raavi likes a certain type of boys and I don't meet her preference. I might have misinterpreted it but to me it didn't seem to be questioning her character. Obviously it's world's difference than what he said yesterday - but Gaumbi didn't know what he said, then why was his reaction so extreme? And again, what is it with everyone's immediate reaction resorting to violence? Side note: it was bit comical to watch as well, a bit poor acting in my opinion from Kinshuk's side. On top of that, his broken record of "maan toh karaha hai tujhe..." was annoying af.

Again, Raavi cannot put her point across without demeaning Shiva in the process. Why? "Rakshas", "Vaisa ka vaisa hi hai" - and then you claim that you don't think about him in that way and your views have completely changed since the marriage. I understand that he acted out and that must make you question your thoughts about him, but how did you do a complete 180 in the span of a day? How is anyone supposed to believe that you like him for him if whenever the going gets tough, all you can do is spew venom towards him? I mean clearly you don't regret what you used to say about him and somewhere in the back of your mind still believe it to be true. One thing she got right was that he doesn't respect her at all but I hope she realizes that she doesn't either.

I don't think I fully understood how digusting Shiva's words were due to some translation issues until today and this is the time that I felt Gaumbi and everyone else's anger was justified. No amount of anger or pain excuses what he said and I simply cannot stand behind it, no matter how much my heart goes out to him or sympathizes with him. It was despicable. But then again, why?!?! WHY do Gaumbi and Suman resort to physical violence? Has the daanda kaand not taught anyone anything? Why can this anger not be expressed with words? Why this show of physically hurting someone because you can't adequately express what you're feeling with your words?

For the sake of my sanity, I am ignoring any reactions from Dev and Rishita - so don't be surprised if you don't find any further mention of them.

Kanta Kaki, thank you for telling them both sides otherwise the blame game would have only fallen on Shiva - however, that's the extent of my support for you. You only seemed to sympathize with Shiva's bezatti and not Raavi's - and I don't agree with that at all. Lines such as "ek pati ke liye kitni bezatti ki baat hogi tu kya jaanthi hai" don't sit well with me at all. Of course, this may just be an assumption of mine but from your words it seemed to me that you were okay with what Shiva did but not Raavi. Again, I could be totally wrong.

Not going to dwell on Anita and Maami's scene - it was just another receptive scene with them having the same roundabout script. Nothing to talk about here except the foreshadowing of Raavi leaving the house 🤪

What I liked is that Raavi didn't beat around the bush, owned up to the fact that she slapped him, and owed it to an impulsive reaction to his words. Had she said these words last episode as well, I would have liked it much better. But at least, I'm glad that she left it at yes, I slapped him and didn't dive into her whole spiel about how his junglee mannerisms have rubbed off on her.

Suman throws a fit yet again - am I glad that her anger has shifted a bit from Shiva to Raavi? Yes, absolutely. But she's completely lost it with her throwing around stuff. She's always threatening everyone with her daanda - how are Dhara and the brothers not going to be affected by such an upbringing? When she resorts to threatening physically violence to shut them up all the time, how are they not supposed to learn that this is the way to solve problems?

I don't really have a specific reaction to Dhara to be very honest. Neither was I disappointed, nor affected nor interested to be honest in what she had to say - whether she was taking Raavi or Shiva's side. Her character has become so wish washy post-marriage that anything that comes out of her mouth has no weightage for me. I simply don't care for her over the top reactions. She still cannot seem to differentiate between right and wrong, when and when not to support Shiva - it's annoying and not worth it.

Again, Suman stopping Dhara had no effect when she does the same thing. It's hypocritical to me. I can feel her pain whenever Shiva is insulted and hit but that's due to Kruttika's amazing acting. Otherwise, all she knows how to do is preach. That being said, I am glad she finally said what we all wanted to hear - separate, mf please separate. All the other times she has threatened that if Raavi leaves then she'll never be able to come back but this time she's giving the green light herself - thank fcuk. Side note: what was the weird music they put in when she declared that? it was a happy tune, was it the makers trolling us because they knew we wanted a separation? 😆

I liked the little tidbit of insight that Suman gave on her own marriage - a true comparison between what she had and what ShiVi are sorely lacking in their marriage - the major component being respect and she recognizes that neither of them currently harbor any respect for the other.

Here goes Raavi again, putting them blame all on Shiva 🤢 girl, just because you were determined on compromising and adjusting to this forced marriage, doesn't mean you had any respect for the marriage and the relationship you shared with Shiva. It's a two way street.

I was okay with Shiva's anger and was expecting it too, fine whatever - we get it, you get angry all the time woohoo. But I didn't like that he said "bahoth badi nak wali hai na" in response to her saying that she can't live with someone that questions her character. To me that shows he isn't regretful about what he said.

What really made me mad and I might just be overthinking it, but I rewatched this part three times to be sure and I swear to god Shiva smirked when Suman told Raavi to pack her things up and leave. He had a hint of relief in there and man it sent me soaring in rage. Nope, I don't like it - I don't like it at all. I really hope I am just seeing things or it was editing or it just wasn't there and I have gone crazy.

Keeping my other thoughts about her aside, I highly appreciate Suman from this scene onwards. She told Raavi to leave - YES. She told Shiva to leave - YES. She's the only one that seems to understand that both of them have wronged each other and both of them deserve to deal with the consequences. This is a step away from the typical mother in law who is obsessed with her son and can't see right or wrong - THIS is what we like to see!! YES!!

My most favorite scene hands down --> Suman telling Shiva that Raavi slapping him was wrong but he was equally wrong for questioning her character.

And now I finally see that guilt on Shiva's face, I see the regret and my heart sighs in relief - not because I want him to wallow in misery but because I know that he is capable of learning from the error of his ways and making up for it. He has that maturity and understanding. Raavi, on the other hand, I have no such expectations from her. All I see is anger and more anger - I really don't think they're heading towards a track where she realizes her own mistakes as well. But who knows maybe we'll be surprised?

The way his gaze lingers on Raavi for more than just a second, the guilt and sadness in his eyes AHHH. I don't want him falling into the pit of self-hatred again, he doesn't deserve it after all that he's been through. Please don't do him dirty anymore, please.

Overall - I am taking back my extreme dark red and replacing it with yellow. As I mentioned before, I was pretty disheartened with the back and forth insults and threats of physical violence which is why it cannot be green for me but watching it the second time around with a clear mind, I liked the episode significantly better. Content wise it's headed on the right track thanks to Suman picking up on the real problem and dare I say - I'm hopeful? 😆

If you made it to the end of this post, I salute you 🤣

Love this! 🤗 I think you summarized most of my thoughts almost exactly! Super tired to write a separate post but I really felt the episode had a lot to offer in terms of discussion and debate. So glad you gave it another watch! The violence and threats of violence were appalling! But I do believe the episode addressed a lot of our discussion points. And there is still so much to discuss. I think one of the key takeaways from the episode is the fact that respect is key for any relationship and that is something each member of the Pandya family is yet to learn, including Suman herself.

Here's my take on the episode. I haven't read the edt but have bookmarked this to make sure I don't forget since this has been one of the most interesting discussions in recent times. If any points are repeated sorry that you have to read through it again.

I finally watched half of today's episode, probably not as properly as I wanted to since both my Los where constantly calling me(I'm watching it as a stand alone, as I still have to watch the last three from last week so my opinion will be slightly skewed since I'm basing it off the Lu and clips I've caught on ig)

Shiva and Raavi's relationship is so toxic, they've both been abusive towards their relationship from the start, both mentally and physically. And as much as it pains me to say this because I love both characters, this pairing never should have happened and I'm glad there is a separation.

Ignoring the fact that the family obviously wears rose coloured glasses for viewing all their relationships, we start off with Raavi coming in and crying, everyone is concerned - Great, that's good, at least they want to know what's wrong.

They ask where Shiva is - also good. He was with her, as her husband he should have made sure she was fine amd vice versa (I'm hoping), also expected.

Shiva walks in looking angry - okay something is wrong, Gautam tells him that he always makes her cry when they've gone together - also true to an extent, but hasn't it mostly always been a misunderstanding on her part that has caused the grief? Anyways we'll leave that for now.

Then she tells them everything that happened, she's angry, the feeling is justified she feels that she's been treated unfairly which is also true to an extent. Shiva tries to put his grievance forward and for me (personally) I don't see anything wrong in him having said that she prefers guys who are more "civilised" than he is. It is a fact that even the people of somnath have stated. Maybe I just don't understand why that was such an issue ( in this particular scene) and I'll be glad if someone wants to explain.

She mentions that he taunts her about his looks, clothes smell etc, calls him names and says how she only married him because she loved the family - strike one for Raavi. He gets angry and tells her to speak her mind and one thing i did like about that was he tells her to speak up about what her thoughts are - this was both a negative and positive for me so strike one against Shiva. Dhara the ever peacemaker tries to get her to stop and I appreciated that for this one time.

Raavi talks about their equation and moving ahead in the relationship and how he doesn't respect her. - For me this is a moot point, only because he has always respected the marriage, they both decided that they would always hate each other, even then there has been a growth in the respect till before the friend and diary situation, if she's talking from then onwards yes, but to belittle their relationship and say he's never given the relationship a chance or her respect, I'll sit in the fence.

Explaining what happens at the mandir, good yes you've mentioned what all he's done, but if Kanta kaki hadn't come, would she have said that she slapped him? Suman at least was impartial and got angry at them both, because of the family izzat. Her hand raised itself - this to me was strike two, you did it, own up to it. I'd have preferred if she said she slapped him, because he deserved it.

I'll come back for the second half of the episode after I get a chance to watch it 😊

Great post! Not sure I agree with some points- don't I saw Shiva smirk or relieved when Suman asked Raavi to leave 😕 If anything he looked agitated.

Ashu, steel up your heart, Shiva will become Majnu, beg Raavi to come back amd full family will do YKB in time for Ganesh Chathurthi, as Avi mentioned 🤣

Also I didn't fully get Suman's punishment. Raavi had to leave because she is getting divorced, so she can move on in life (hypothetically). What was Shiva going to do leaving?(Don't get me wrong, Shiva needs this introspection time). What was Suman's end goal- Shiva just leaves forever? He comes back after he repents? Does he need to prove he has changed? And as others speculated before- is he out of the store? Is he officially out of Pandya House Ration card? Does he also not get access to the ancestral properties?