PS|EDT #34|Aaj Nahi, Aaj Raavi Ka Din Hai, Baat Self-Respect Ki Hai - Page 106

Originally posted by: raindropsroses

One thing I noticed was how when Raavi tells the family that she won’t come back. Shiva says, “agar isne faisla kar liya ki isse saath nahi aana.”

Maybe he secretly hoped that Raavi would come back home anyway since his family wouldn’t leave her behind.

I think he meant later on. If we listen carefully we'll realise that Shiva kept saying he won't take Raavi back until he gets the kangan. He never said he'll permanently leave her or something.

He's very clear about what he wants and also knows that he's being a dheet but that's the stage where he's at now.

He never planned on leaving Raavi, he just first wants the kangan back and in his mind there's absolutely no way of defeat. So all along he thought he'll take both the bangles and Raavi with him.

But when Raavi says she doesn't wanna go back with him, that's when he says she can do whatever she wants as he doesn't care.

Also I do feel that Shiva will regret or at least realise that what he did to Raavi is wrong because when he was sitting on the tree, they showed us that he was thinking about what Raavi said to him and not what his bhabhi, gaumbi or Suman said. so chances are that he'll try to right his wrongdoing.

Originally posted by: Sakmen

Saste wala

Idhar jismo ka nahi ok?🤣

Maine toh aisa kuch kaha hi nahi🤣

Agar tu nahi bolti toh kissiko pata bhi nahi chalta🤣

Originally posted by: Transference

Strictly, I have watched every episode and hence whatever is happening right now is neither surprising nor out of the blue.

I wasn't able to enjoy sleepwalking or beating Dhara. Dhara was always sassy and had the best comebacks. They made her into this strange human being during the danda said. She is back!

And, I am neither shocked nor surprised by Shiva. He had always been highly vile and nasty when it comes to Miami!

We are one of those handful of fans who have watched from the beginning, know very well about each character and lived with them.

Dhara, was this smart girl who had dreams of going to Switzerland and where she is in a chiffon all singing and dancing in typical BW style and the way she was going around Somnath making everyone feel happy. Hardik and her had to go through so many hardships because of their mother and only because of Darshan Pandya, they got their footing and have full gratitude towards Pandya parivar. When Suman used to be mean, I used to think why this girl is putting up such crap, but it was her way of saying thank you and the immense love she had for the family. Suman’s only fear about Dhara was that she would run away like her mother. But the danda/batwara track was so out of character for Dhara that whatever sacrifice she made turned futile. Glad they are slowly bringing back Dhara 1.0😃

Raavi’s character is completely modeled on Dhara. So far her character is intact. Hope they don’t show anything stupid with her like they screwed up Dhara in the middle.

As for Shiva, this bachcha has been in my heart since Day 1 who matured at a young because of what was happening in their house and how his older brother and Ma were suffering at the hands of Mami. He was the only one child in the room when they showed Gautam’s wounds. Dev and Krish were not even there, only because Shiva can handle it. That’s why as a kid when they showed him to be mean to Mami, I enjoyed those episodes. Only he had the guts to tackle her, not even Gautam as he was too diplomatic. Shiva is a very complex character, not many can understand him.

That’s why I support him as much as I support Raavi, as both are important to me. He is making a huge mistake now but I know he will come around for sure😃

Originally posted by: sharadrocks

Hello All,

My first post here after months of stalking. The posts here are more interesting than the show for the better part. Many congratulations to all of you for keeping the spirits even when the show does its best to dampen them.

Anyway, all the debate about Shiva's actions made me want to share my two bits too.

To me, Shiva's this action was quite akin to the divine Shiva's swallowing of the halahala venom in a bid to save the world. He knew what his family's response would be, he was no fool, he knew how his words and actions would be perceived. His demeanor even from when the scene began was that of a man who was steeling himself for what was to come. In a weird way, it was like that of a suicide bomber. He knew this was going to blow up and destroy him as well, in a manner of speaking, and yet he had to do it. At least he believed he had to.

So why did he believe that he had to do it?

He knew that so long as the venom of the past was allowed to spillover onto his relationship with Raavi, they were doomed. He had to find a symbolic closure, and what better than the bangles. They were a manifestation of her vile and vicious treatment of his family. Not to mention her duplicity and her thieving ways.

He would have been with their running feud to continue but Raavi had changed everything. Until he saw her as his mami ki behen ki beti, it was still okay, the fact of their marriage notwithstanding. But when he began to see her as more, he realized that things had to change. He

Hello,

Welcome here!🤗

Your perspective is really interesting, I couldn't have thought of it like this. But I don't think that currently, I don't think it's his idea to finish off the past venom for clearing out his relationship with raavi. That's not even on his mind actually, according to me.

These kangans have just become an obsession, or have always been, and Maami's challenge added fuel to it.. so he just wants it by hook or by crook.. and he's doing whatever it takes and even if it means giving up on his relationship with his wife.

Ofcourse he knew, the repercussions of what he was doing or what his family would perceive it to be but he won't back off because those bangles mean everything to him at the moment.

Originally posted by: sharadrocks

Hello All,

My first post here after months of stalking. The posts here are more interesting than the show for the better part. Many congratulations to all of you for keeping the spirits even when the show does its best to dampen them.

Anyway, all the debate about Shiva's actions made me want to share my two bits too.

To me, Shiva's this action was quite akin to the divine Shiva's swallowing of the halahala venom in a bid to save the world. He knew what his family's response would be, he was no fool, he knew how his words and actions would be perceived. His demeanor even from when the scene began was that of a man who was steeling himself for what was to come. In a weird way, it was like that of a suicide bomber. He knew this was going to blow up and destroy him as well, in a manner of speaking, and yet he had to do it. At least he believed he had to.

So why did he believe that he had to do it?

He knew that so long as the venom of the past was allowed to spillover onto his relationship with Raavi, they were doomed. He had to find a symbolic closure, and what better than the bangles. They were a manifestation of her vile and vicious treatment of his family. Not to mention her duplicity and her thieving ways.

He would have been with their running feud to continue but Raavi had changed everything. Until he saw her as his mami ki behen ki beti, it was still okay, the fact of their marriage notwithstanding. But when he began to see her as more, he realized that things had to change. He

This action of Shiva had no relation what so ever with Raavi. Raavi was pulled in it’s flames later on. But Shiva didn’t initiate this for Raavi or because he saw Raavi as something more. He is definitely not in that stage yet. This was purely because of the challenge issued by Maami regarding how no one could take it off her wrists not even Suman.

Yesterday we saw Shiva is deeply affected by those Kangan and Before that Kangan and Suman’s empty wrist Raavi is not even a thought for him. That is on a different plane. A plane much lower and unimportant than this one. This is his mother whose wrist is empty due to maami and the kangan that are the major root cause of his fury is not just simple jewelry... They r his father’s last gift to his mother. It is war and this war is no way related to Raavi.

Like many have said, What he have done is totally in character. Right? Wrong? That is not at all in question. But is he in character? Yes. At this stage anything can get trumped in front of those bangles. Raavi most of all. Because he doesn’t see her as wife. He sees her as someone who doesn’t say anything to maami. Thats what they fought about. Raavi said many things but in response Shiva had just one thing. Say it to your maasi.

So I do not agree to that analysis... He is not yet thinking about her to such extremes that he would want to create this whole Kaand for her...

🖤

Originally posted by: bhavna101

Maine toh aisa kuch kaha hi nahi🤣

Agar tu nahi bolti toh kissiko pata bhi nahi chalta🤣

Apna wala secret tha?🤣

Galti se mistake ho gaya🤣

Originally posted by: Sakmen

Hello,

Welcome here!🤗

Your perspective is really interesting, I couldn't have thought of it like this. But I don't think that currently, I don't think it's his idea to finish off the past venom for clearing out his relationship with raavi. That's not even on his mind actually, according to me.

These kangans have just become an obsession, or have always been, and Maami's challenge added fuel to it.. so he just wants it by hook or by crook.. and he's doing whatever it takes and even if it means giving up on his relationship with his wife.

Ofcourse he knew, the repercussions of what he was doing or what his family would perceive it to be but he won't back off because those bangles mean everything to him at the moment.

And his reasons behind getting those kangan back are right but his way isn't. We have said the same thing about Dhara when she beat Shiva and Krish and the track that followed.

No matter how Shiva was as a child, how good of person he is and can be. The thing is that in this situation he is wrong. Nothing can justify his actions and no matter how his childhood was, I cannot support him on this.

It always makes me question if he ever learned to respect women who are not Suman or Dhara.

Originally posted by: Sakmen

Apna wala secret tha?🤣

Galti se mistake ho gaya🤣

Bolne se pehle sochna thha na🤣

Ab sabko pata chal gaya🤣

Originally posted by: sharadrocks

Hello All,

My first post here after months of stalking. The posts here are more interesting than the show for the better part. Many congratulations to all of you for keeping the spirits even when the show does its best to dampen them.

Anyway, all the debate about Shiva's actions made me want to share my two bits too.

To me, Shiva's this action was quite akin to the divine Shiva's swallowing of the halahala venom in a bid to save the world. He knew what his family's response would be, he was no fool, he knew how his words and actions would be perceived. His demeanor even from when the scene began was that of a man who was steeling himself for what was to come. In a weird way, it was like that of a suicide bomber. He knew this was going to blow up and destroy him as well, in a manner of speaking, and yet he had to do it. At least he believed he had to.

So why did he believe that he had to do it?

He knew that so long as the venom of the past was allowed to spillover onto his relationship with Raavi, they were doomed. He had to find a symbolic closure, and what better than the bangles. They were a manifestation of Maami's vile and vicious treatment of his family. Not to mention her duplicity and her thieving ways.

He would have been fine with their running feud to continue but Raavi had changed everything. Until he saw her as his mami ki behen ki beti, it was still okay, the fact of their marriage notwithstanding. But when he began to see her as more, he realized that things had to change. If they were to have a future together, the past needed closure of sorts.

When he made that demand of Mami, he was throwing her a lifeline. He wanted Raavi's perception of the mother-figure that Prafulla was to her to remain somewhat intact. He knew what she meant to her. And when she threw Raavi at him, he thought he'd make it about her too. It was all for her after all. So he said he would not move on with Raavi without a closure to the past. While his words could be construed as such, he was not really objectifying her, but instead implicitly stating that he would not embark on a journey with Raavi without burying past ghosts.

Even if he is in the dog house pretty much with everyone who loves him, Shiva must still see this through.

The bangles are an integral piece that will go to giving shape to the jigsaw puzzle that their relationship is.

I am not trying to justify Shiva's behaviour or words, they have hurt Raavi beyond measure. I am only trying to take a peek into his mind to try and understand what compelled him to do what he did.

I'm not sure I agree with this fully, but it's so interesting to read. Do come on here and share more of your views. It's always nice to have so many different takes.

Thank you to all of those who responded.

You may well be right and I could be wrong but this still remains my reading.

I am not even saying that this is why he planned it. I am saying this is a motivating factor. Of course the bangles have been an obsession. They have been that for a long time.

However, if he had not married Raavi, this whole situation would never have evolved the way it has. So yes, it is about Raavi.

Also, knowing what Prafulla is, why even ask her for the bangles as a gift. Are we saying here that he was doing a chance pe dance? Trying to see if it would work and if not, he had other aces up his sleeve? I don't know but to me, Shiva has given this a lot more thought. And done things the way he has with his own reasons, whether subconscious or openly acknowledged even by him.

Just a hypothetical question, if Mami had not repeatedly told him he could only take Raavi back, what do you think he would have done?

If she had simply refused to return the bangles, he would have just walked?