Qarz E Jaan (HUM) #4 - Usama, Nameer, Yumna | DT.N. Pg 136 - Page 150

Originally posted by: Sunshine75

i came here to say... what a brilliant drama and what performances by the whole cast... so good!!

Absolutely !! A powerpacked episode.

The scene where Asad was killed was sort of bland. Both asad actor n nameer need to work on their expressions, nameer gave a straight face n it killed the vibe. And the count down was kinda weird it wasn't needed. Beenish was good n I actually felt so so bad for her.But, the girl didn't even look shocked when Ammar showed her husband's dead body. Maybe the director wanted to show she was in denial. It didn't come out the way it was supposed to be.The scene would have been brilliant if some experienced one's had played the roles.

Deepak parwani was so brilliant .He n barkhat showed variety of emotions that you instantly connect to them , despite them being the main villains of the drama.They kinda covered the emotions that these younger lots failed to portray.

Originally posted by: Alizba63

Well, Pilot...I think it is obvious why there was a rukhsati and why Nashwa stated that she is going in with clear heart and intentions to make this work. She really meant it.

Also, no child should be stigmatized. Telling a child since childhood k tu iska bacha hai and you will be just like this or that because your parent was XYZ is going to create another Ammar.

Also, when children make mistakes, instead of humiliating them, teach them how to fix it or how to problem solve. Desi parents starts shaming if you drop a plate by accident or compare you to another kid. That trauma and voice of disapproval stays forever. Something so small. Imagine what bigger pain feels like.

A child born from any situation cannot be hated. You can dislike or hate a parent but never take it out on an innocent human being. To state something like tera toh jaat hi kharab hai is just ....makes one worse than or no different than a monster.

I'm not saying that's what you meant. Of course not. It is my belief. I feel people often struggle to understand where a troubled person comes from. Especially preachy people who think they're perfect. Grace and mercy should be shown where possible.

Btw, Beenish was calling daniyal and Ammar picked it up.

As for Burhan, someone has to represent Ammar. It is a human right to have a fair trial. Even if it is an open and shut case in some cases.

Could they have hired someone else? Like a random person? Yes, for sure. But story kaise barhe gi?

Burhan has his beliefs and reasons. That's up to him. But if he takes the case Beenish will be hurt.

Also, how is Nashwa going to take Asad's case? Isn't taking this case against her husband a conflict of interest?

How I feel? I will wait and see how it unfolds. I have some questions.

Sorry I disagree. Are you trying to justify Ammar act. As far as I see, Ammar had the best life with all the luxurious and pampering . His father however strict he was, still gave him a good luxurious life. In fact how do you think Ammar was able to afford drugs and even kept a gun . Nashwa, Beenish and Burhan have seen a more traumatic childhood. Did they turn into criminals. They chose to study and turn out to be good human beings. But Ammar chose the wrong path and turned out to be a criminal. Every person is responsible for his own actions. And as far as Bakhtiyar behavior is co concerned, what do you expect from him, that he should garland Ammar for his laziness, non caring attitude and joblessness. Which Father will tolerate such behavior from a child. Ammar was not only a useless child but he was a problematic child too. So why should Bakhtiyar be kind to him. It's very easy to blame parents for the upbringing, but I can give countless examples where children have seen worst situations but have still chosen the right path and turned out to be good human beings.

And yes ,I do not want AMMAR child to be born. That way Nashwa will never get free from this generation trauma and family. What if the child turns out to be reflections of Ammar. Sorry we don't need Another AMMAR in this society. If I were Nashwa I would have aborted the child

Originally posted by: pilot100

Sorry I disagree. Are you trying to justify Ammar act. As far as I see, Ammar had the best life with all the luxurious and pampering . His father however strict he was, still gave him a good luxurious life. In fact how do you think Ammar was able to afford drugs and even kept a gun . Nashwa, Beenish and Burhan have seen a more traumatic childhood. Did they turn into criminals. They chose to study and turn out to be good human beings. But Ammar chose the wrong path and turned out to be a criminal. Every person is responsible for his own actions. And as far as Bakhtiyar behavior is co concerned, what do you expect from him, that he should garland Ammar for his laziness, non caring attitude and joblessness. Which Father will tolerate such behavior from a child. Ammar was not only a useless child but he was a problematic child too. So why should Bakhtiyar be kind to him. It's very easy to blame parents for the upbringing, but I can give countless examples where children have seen worst situations but have still chosen the right path and turned out to be good human beings.

And yes ,I do not want AMMAR child to be born. That way Nashwa will never get free from this generation trauma and family. What if the child turns out to be reflections of Ammar. Sorry we don't need Another AMMAR in this society. If I were Nashwa I would have aborted the child

Happily disagree. My last thought on this. Read my post again. I do not justify him but rather talk about not dehumanizing a child. You do not treat a child based on what you think they'll do in the future. I also talk about why people react in certain ways. Being rigid and not understanding people's psych will not help us in the future to prevent the same tragedy. At the end it's an individuals choice but there are lots of intersections and lots of role people play in the development of a himan. We must understand reasons and that doesn't at all mean supporting or condoning an act. If Nashwa wants the child that's up to her. It's hers.

Also, by that logic Nashwa is Behzad's daughter and he as stated by many was like Ammar. Does that mean we wish she was never born? She was raised by Bisma and Nashwa's child will be raised by Nashwa.

Hope that explains my take.

Nameeer outshines everyone else today he was just fantastic and has been thruout and this is why probably people are intrested in a criminal like ammar ( but that is about it for me) as far as the characters go they all are freaking enablers Including nashwa and esp Nashwa lately with all her trying to act oversmart and triggering him more and fix him plan..bhai why the heck do u care? U hated this guy why are you taking un necessarily pange banti hai nahi but u have to hit at his trigger point that too now when u guys literally have nounderstanding and so much anger regarding the nikkah atleast let the dust settle a bit before trying to act all madam Fix everything.

Burhan was absolutly right in what he told her ke why are u aggravating bekaar main abhi..who told u to do anything and act all oh I know it all..I say them all are enablers caz again this nashwa has literally downplaying a rape too and acted like haan bas choti moti galti and has been constantly doing that in her so called defense statements ke kuch zyada Bara toh hai nahi well now see bada.

The dadi freaking have no brain cells it seems like..even bakriyar broke and having 2nd thoughts about his kartootocoming ahead of him but not this daadi ..it is not evennkhoon for her caz this time whatever she inflicted upon bisma calling her ghair khoon came in front of her and she had not even 1 min to spare or itni si empathy being a widow while she gives khoon ke lectures..more like bas Male khoon .. she sounds more psycho then even an ammar high on drugs.there is absolutly no humanizing or whitewashing ammar you just cannot with hsi amaalnama..and nobody in this story is acha insaan they all are hadh level selfish and convenience pe chalne wale . Kisi ek main spine nahi hai and they all twist their motives and soch as per what suits them ..including nashwa..however their strength lies in good performances

I don't think Nashwa is pregnant

So let's stop all discussions here regarding Ammars child

I wish nashwa and Ammar healed each other and the became parents

I wanted Ammar to go to his chachi and assure her he will take care of nashwa and protect her

I wanted to see a good bond with Ammar mom and nashwa

Sab armaan paani mein beh gaya

Originally posted by: ABBY_JERAN

They ASSASSINATED AMMAR CHARACTER TODAY

WHEN HE CALLS BEENU TO SHOW HER ASAD

THAT WAS THE LAST NAIL IN TNE COFFIN

I M DONE WITH THIS SHOW

THANK YOU

RABIA RAZZAQ U LET GO OF A GEM OF A DRAMA JUST LIKE THAT

He doesn't call Beenish, she calls Asad and he picks up... I think 🤔

Also I think you should watch, we are almost at the climax, there are loose holes I agree but... After this literally everyone's story arc would be around Ammar primarily, be it Burhan/Nashwa/Bakhtiyar/Barkhat and one of the main attraction of this story has always been what will happen to him or how he's handled esp since writer bought in the parenting angle... Also Nameer said that Ammar has just started in one of his IVs. Then there's Bakhtiyar... first time he has to choose between his own children. In past it was someone else's daughter and his son. It was an easy choice, now it's not. There are going to be some solid scenes!

also would someone answer me why is Bisma Suddenly makign shahi tukde for sone jaisa damad after Being Shown Unhappy with the whole thing.. ab daawatein karni hain and ammar ke fav khane banane hain jaisa bada koi Pride of performance jeet ke aaya heera DAMAD.. where dies dawatein for ammar fit in this when u are supposedly unhappy and break the nikkah.. i call it BS

I watched few episodes initially and after that I followed the drama through updates. And till the last week episodes I didn't feel that Ammar had anger issues. He was more like a 'I don't care' type of a person. What do you think?

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

also would someone answer me why is Bisma Suddenly makign shahi tukde for sone jaisa damad after Being Shown Unhappy with the whole thing.. ab daawatein karni hain and ammar ke fav khane banane hain jaisa bada koi Pride of performance jeet ke aaya heera DAMAD.. where dies dawatein for ammar fit in this when u are supposedly unhappy and break the nikkah.. i call it BS

@Bold :

It was funny.

Originally posted by: pressu

I watched few episodes initially and after that I followed the drama through updates. And till the last week episodes I didn't feel that Ammar had anger issues. He was more like a 'I don't care' type of a person. What do you think?

Ammar has "anger issue" is a coin termed by his supporters who refuse to agree that he ra*ed a girl n dumped her. Since the beginning of the drama, they have clearly mentioned what type of person he is. They tried to sympathize with him by throwing a couple of scenes where his parents scold their children n compare their children . But, such trivial things can't be the reason for a person to become a ra*ist n a murderer. Now, m reading brilliant stuffs in social media where people are saying bakhtiyar never treated Ammar well , he always looked down upon so he became like this.

I mean, wah , I can't believe people would accuse someone else for ammar's own doing.

Noone becomes a ra*ist/terrorist/ murderer or a criminal because of his or her parent's doing . Bakhtiyar no matter how bad he is n what sort of crimes he did, he didn't commit the crimes like ammar did n he didn't teach ammar to become a ra*ist n a murderer.