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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: -Maha-



I am not understanding your point here.How do you know that people dont ask from Allah and dont pray for betterment of this country? this matter is totally personal 😕
that y i didn't quote specific names here dear
it was a general statement
had i mention in any comment everyone who's going to vote for any party is doing the same???
Whats wrong If people are Hoping that Imran khan or anyone else can bring a change in this Country?Allah will make him a source/Waseela for us?Or anyone from PPP PMLN or PTI will be the result of our prayers.I think you are taking/interpreting it in wrong way.
what i said in the above comment dear???
that do pray n Allah will grant u a great leader
whats wrong in this dear???
On which basis you judged that we have forgotten the sacrifices? or true meanings of Pakistan ideology?Allah has given us sense ,intelligence ,knowledge to take decisions.Allah has given us right to choose a leader for us.and thats what people are doing.People are only praying for someone/Source/Waseela who can change the condition of this country.
in the very first comment i had mentioned that ask Allah n he will give u what u want
u r saying the samething then how come m wrong n u r right???
sorry i seriously cant get ur comment

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ..-Raindrops-..

Imran Khan says that ' Allah ne Insan ke Haath mein sirf Koshish aur neeyat di hai Kamyabi woh deta hai'


I think it is one of the best lines, we as humans have to try because without trying even God is not going to help us as they say God helps those who help themselves
The Ultimate decision will always be Allah's but we cannot just rely on prayers we have to put in the efforts, try to choose amongst the given choices is all we can do. If we do nothing than complain than we have no right to because it is not given that God will always help muslims even if they don't do anything.

Allah behtar janta hai kaun sahi hai but all those tried and tested have already been proven wrong so why not try someone new ? who at least looks better than them.
I don't care if Imran Khan becomes PM or not all I am concerned is a better Pakistan...Just hope things improve for the better



dearrr read all my comments i didn't said once that dont vote for anyone n stay home
thats what i said go vote but dont get ur expectations high
just pray to Allah
whats wrong in this dear?
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: 2direct.



That's right so we should just leave it all upto Allah & not take the initiative ourselves and render ourselves redundant




i can communicate in a wrong way i beleive
can have ambiguity
so do read ayat number 79 of surah Nisa
its our sins becoz of which pakistan is in a bad shape
u can vote, but u cant change the condition of pakistan until n unless u change ur ownselves


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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: itzMYattitude



i can communicate in a wrong way i beleive
can have ambiguity
so do read ayat number 79 of surah Nisa
its our sins becoz of which pakistan is in a bad shape
u can vote, but u cant change the condition of pakistan until n unless u change ur ownselves



Change start from person to person ... We can never say change wil come together.. some are gud n some are bad in every time n age.. if there are some who do evil in pakistan at same time there are some who are doing good for not only themselves but also for others..

Everyone have to pay for their sins.. every single thing no doubt conveys a msg for us a msg of hidayt.. it depends on us to take dm in which shape...how we get to solve it...

This all takes us to in different senerio n different situations.. here we have an option to chose a leader who shows us way.. How much leadership matters it can be easily understand as Allah send his messengers.. people are hoards they wil go in which direction u wil ask dm to go..

If we have an honest leder then definately most of da people wil have to follow him to get in work...that s all how its gona work when we wil vote wisely.. thats why it is necassary that we should adjust wid some human like us who have merits n demerits but his merits should definately holds above his demerits..we cant find a frishta sift insan when we ourselves are not gud enough to deserve it.. We definately admires the Golden era of Muslims if we want that back we have to work hard n we can start wid little things taking little steps to a bigger thing.. we are demanding a non curopt leadership so that at least they can make our living going on .. dn we can educate everyone when education comes u get knowledge how to live ur life.. n thats how it wil work n this all wil take time.. no change can be bring in few days...when we have so weak faiths n keep on indulging ourselves in evils..

Islam is a complete code of life.. we have just to implemnt it this talking is not gona help us sitting here as we all have so little knowledge about every issue that it is dangerous for our faiths that we keep on saying something we dont know fully every comand every teaching have changes on change of senerios. So please i wil reuqest you not to take this discussion in dat direction where we are not able to be get ourselves at single point..

Islam is not about talking things it something we need to learn now actually first n dn implemnt on our selves.. !!

Allah hmari galtion ko Maff famaye Ameen !!

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Posted: 12 years ago

n where i had mentioned that dont vote for anyone n stay home??? many r saying y not try a different person this time. ok do try dear where i said dont???
i dont know y r u guys jumping when i didn't stop u from voting imran or whoever u wanna try. Go ahead its ur right
the whole point was u wanna do something then change ur ownself
thats in ur own hands
becoz all the bad times n happenings in our life is the result of our own sins
if v r not getting a better leader its becoz v r not following religion properly here


You are Right Change comes from urself..But how can an individual wil think about to change himself ? TO make them think u always need to do work on it... here is no one saying anyone wil come n wil do magic n that wil happen this n that..
See an example its all my POV i m not telling its facts..they are completly my thinking of seeing their situations...
I THINK Imran khan changed him he was a playboy in his early young age but later after his mother s death he realized what he is missing all the years behind.. his religion ... see hidayt comes to everyone it only depends who takes that hidayt at that moment.. that s the diffference... n here i wil say my relative lost their mother i thought they wil be changed but no they became more aggresive to each other became more selfish ..
Now imran khan is the one who made millions people to start thinking in different way not a million people AT LEAST ME he did make me change ... he make me beleive its Allah who wil make it possible for me everything.. i started to think about my country what in all years i did for it... its completely personal matter how one religiously acts.. u can preach them tell them right or wrong but can never impose on dm...
But laws in a country is imposed on a person to make things work...in every jumma khutbaa there is a lesson for everyone Some takes it affect while others dont.. You just cant ask anyone to change ureself everyone does when they think they need to change..

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: itzMYattitude


its our sins becoz of which pakistan is in a bad shape
u can vote, but u cant change the condition of pakistan until n unless u change ur ownselves



It all starts in small stages, by one setting the tone for others to follow, nothing happens at once, a hundred odd million won't miraculously change at the same time. Who knows, a newly appointed leader with fresh ideas could be an answer to initiate change.

Edited by 2direct. - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
these pathetic bomb blasts abd ither terrorism acts in Pak esp Karachi! :(
NOONE will come outta their homes and vote NO ONE WILL!
W*F is wrong man?
i think abhi se there should be fauj at the polling stations and all these jagas! ESP KHI! =\
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: 2direct.



It all starts in small stages, by one setting the tone for others to follow, nothing happens at once, a hundred odd million won't miraculously change at the same time. Who knows, a newly appointed leader with fresh ideas could be an answer to initiate change.

Urooj aur Zawaal sab quom par ata hai ...Is ka matlab ye nahi hai ke things will never get better ...Look at Japan aur Germany world war ke baad but now they are one of the top countries in the world again, look at China, Turkey and Malaysia ...when they can change why can't we ?
Obviously every decision is made by Allah but he will only change our halat if we want it to change and make effort
Islam duniya chor kar sirf Allah ko yaad karne ka mazhab nahi hai...It is a code of life
Balance deen and duniya both
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ..-Raindrops-..



Urooj aur Zawaal sab quom par ata hai ...Is ka matlab ye nahi hai ke things will never get better ...Look at Japan aur Germany world war ke baad but now they are one of the top countries in the world again, look at China, Turkey and Malaysia ...when they can change why can't we ?

Obviously every decision is made by Allah but he will only change our halat if we want it to change and make effort
Islam duniya chor kar sirf Allah ko yaad karne ka mazhab nahi hai...It is a code of life
Balance deen and duniya both

are v balancing deen n duniya both dear???
again m not talking about u
may be u r but majority never bother to balance
if a child dont wanna study, crying that he dont wanna attend school
parents will force him to attend school
then y they are not forcing him to go pray 5 times a day dear???
its not called balancing
v r bend towards duniya only
thats the basic problem until n unless v will not balance things out v cant get an amazing leader
becox fault is not in government ONLY that v r choosing
v r not honest with ourselves
m i wrong again??/
Edited by itzMYattitude - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: MSluvsSI


Change start from person to person ... We can never say change wil come together.. some are gud n some are bad in every time n age.. if there are some who do evil in pakistan at same time there are some who are doing good for not only themselves but also for others..

Everyone have to pay for their sins.. every single thing no doubt conveys a msg for us a msg of hidayt.. it depends on us to take dm in which shape...how we get to solve it...

This all takes us to in different senerio n different situations.. here we have an option to chose a leader who shows us way.. How much leadership matters it can be easily understand as Allah send his messengers.. people are hoards they wil go in which direction u wil ask dm to go..

If we have an honest leder then definately most of da people wil have to follow him to get in work...that s all how its gona work when we wil vote wisely.. thats why it is necassary that we should adjust wid some human like us who have merits n demerits but his merits should definately holds above his demerits..we cant find a frishta sift insan when we ourselves are not gud enough to deserve it.. We definately admires the Golden era of Muslims if we want that back we have to work hard n we can start wid little things taking little steps to a bigger thing.. we are demanding a non curopt leadership so that at least they can make our living going on .. dn we can educate everyone when education comes u get knowledge how to live ur life.. n thats how it wil work n this all wil take time.. no change can be bring in few days...when we have so weak faiths n keep on indulging ourselves in evils..

Islam is a complete code of life.. we have just to implemnt it this talking is not gona help us sitting here as we all have so little knowledge about every issue that it is dangerous for our faiths that we keep on saying something we dont know fully every comand every teaching have changes on change of senerios. So please i wil reuqest you not to take this discussion in dat direction where we are not able to be get ourselves at single point..

Islam is not about talking things it something we need to learn now actually first n dn implemnt on our selves.. !!

Allah hmari galtion ko Maff famaye Ameen !!

dear to vote or someone is ur right avail that chance
had never mentioned before that dont vote for anyone
that only thing m saying is apart from casting ur vote, try to change ur own selves too
thats needed
v should bow down in front of Allah n ask for what v want n he will grant that n dont depend on anyone else
whats wrong in this??
n this is not some complicated thing i dont know y u guys not getting through it

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