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Posted: 12 years ago
Allah u know better only u can bring change
i expect nothing from imran khan, pml or any other party

n about those who think religion has nothing to do with politics
dont dare to forget all the great leaders were Muslims
true Muslims

around the world the western countries are successful becoz they r studying hazrat Umer (R.A)'s time period

vote for them only becoz u want electricity n gas n all
For God sakeopen ur eyes
u want these things just bow down in front of Allah n he will grant u everything
Pakistanis r again n again trusting someone else cant u see this is the reward of our own sins
when v will connect our hopes to Allah everything will b fine
but v cant becoz so called imran khan is our last hope (n in other words this is called shirk)

i dont want Parha likha Pakistan
i want Pakistan who's meaning was suppose to be la ilaha illallah
i want an Islamic empire
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: itzMYattitude

Allah u know better only u can bring change
i expect nothing from imran khan, pml or any other party

n about those who think religion has nothing to do with politics
dont dare to forget all the great leaders were Muslims
true Muslims

around the world the western countries are successful becoz they r studying hazrat Umer (R.A)'s time period

vote for them only becoz u want electricity n gas n all
For God sakeopen ur eyes
u want these things just bow down in front of Allah n he will grant u everything
Pakistanis r again n again trusting someone else cant u see this is the reward of our own sins
when v will connect our hopes to Allah everything will b fine
but v cant becoz so called imran khan is our last hope (n in other words this is called shirk)

i dont want Parha likha Pakistan
i want Pakistan who's meaning was suppose to be la ilaha illallah
i want an Islamic empire



That is not true at all. You can't just make sweeping statements like that with no evidence to back it up. Name five great leaders, from the last 100 years, who were Musim. You won't be able to do it.

Also Allah help's those who help themselves'. Merely praying isn't going to get you anywhere, you need to be proactive and do something to help yourself. One of the things we can do to help ourselves is vote for a suitable leader. Simple.

An Islamic empire in this day and age is nigh impossible. There is far too much corruption in the world to successfully maintain an Islamic state. For an Islamic state to succeed we would need an extremely pious leader, who can balance religion and modernity; of the ilk of Hamza Yusuf, and that's not going to happen.

Is not shirk to put your trust in a political leader. That is absolute nonsense. You shouldn't go around accusing people of such a big sin!

Again Islamically you are obligated to educate yourself. The first command of Islam was iqra: read. So you should want an educated state, Muslims need education to empower themselves.
Edited by Amara_B - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: itzMYattitude

Allah u know better only u can bring change
i expect nothing from imran khan, pml or any other party

n about those who think religion has nothing to do with politics
dont dare to forget all the great leaders were Muslims
true Muslims

around the world the western countries are successful becoz they r studying hazrat Umer (R.A)'s time period

vote for them only becoz u want electricity n gas n all
For God sakeopen ur eyes
u want these things just bow down in front of Allah n he will grant u everything
Pakistanis r again n again trusting someone else cant u see this is the reward of our own sins
when v will connect our hopes to Allah everything will b fine
but v cant becoz so called imran khan is our last hope (n in other words this is called shirk)

i dont want Parha likha Pakistan
i want Pakistan wh o's meaning was suppose to be la ilaha illallah
i want an Islamic empire

I 100% agree with you
only Allah is our hope . calling someone else their last hope is SHIRK
and there are some stupid people who worship him astaghfirullah and they created a page
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Why-you-NO-worship-Imran-Khan/287298521312193
if this isn't shirk than what is shirk ? lack of knowledge of islam in our country.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: IndefiniteLOVE

So the awards were for the fundraising and CRICKET

I was not only talking about him but other mercenary politicians also , you think I didn't do any research I did
I am sory he got reward of what he did in respective streams !! it was cricket or not he did best what ever he did... Other politicians we know very weel from past decades about them there is nothing new in dm !!
It got clear by Himself Imran Khan on the very same day or next day i thnk n here as others also cleared this false allegations
ISLAMABAD: Khawaja Asif, a senior leader of the Pakistan Muslim League ' Nawaz (PML-N), alleges that Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan lost a huge amount of money which was donated to his social welfare hospital, Shaukat Khanum Memorial Cancer Hospital & Research Centre, in a real estate gamble.

Asif, accompanied by two other PML-N leaders, held a press conference in Islamabad on Wednesday and handed out hard copies of "evidence" against Khan's investments.

The leader said that a total of $4.5 million were invested abroad, which was "in fact the money gained from sadqaat, fitrana and zakat' This was the money of the Pakistani nation which went abroad."

"In British Virgin Islands, a shell company was first registered. That company transferred money into a company, HBG in Dubai, then HBG bought shares of Sugarland company worth $3 million. During 2009-2010, Sugarland declared losses and in the coming two years, it faced 64% losses. Here, the money of Shaukat Khanum invested by Imran Khan also faced a loss but it was not shown," Asif said while referring to the documents he had distributed.

The leader mentioned the Double Shah scam and said that Double Shah would at least ask for investments and not for donations, and his business was more transparent than this one. "Imran Khan doesn't get tired of unleashing allegations against the entire world, but he should first look at himself too."

Asif questioned Khan that if the investment was so safe and profitable, then why did he not put in his own money rather than that of Shaukat Khanum. "This is not a scandal of the PTI, this was a play of Shaukat Khanum's money' Shaukat Khanum has not published its balance sheets, the last one available is from 2010, which we have provided to you.

"Imran Khan should reply himself or someone from the trust should reply. Who knows what game Imran Khan is playing with the people's money and where he's investing the donations," he added.

'Shaukat Khanum workers are Khan's friends or family'

Asif also alleged that those working at Shaukat Khanum Memorial Hospital are either Khan's friends or family members. "Another important person is Imtiaz Haideri. He is a member of Imran Khan's trust, is a chief executive in Dubai and a chief executive in British Virgin Islands too."

"In this party (PTI), they are all real estate businessmen or are involved in collecting donations. There is this singer as well, who also collects donations. The whole leadership is involved in the real estate business, they are all gamblers," said Asif adding that he is providing proof from Shaukat Khanum's own papers.

"We are not speculating or assuming this. We have handed you all the balance sheets too on which all the investments are stated."

"During a Public Accounts Committee meeting, I asked NAB without mentioning any name that if a social welfare organisation is involved in such gambling investment, does your law allow them to catch them. They told me yes, they would take action' When the time comes, we will also go to the court."

"We know it hurts the credibility of leaders before the elections, but we are trying to show the real face (of Imran Khan) on how he is managing the donations," Asif added.

"Imran Khan took some wrong decisions and the trust should not bear the losses. The loss should come on his personal balance sheet."


Compelte faluse allegations against Imran kHan n he did answer his every single question in his press conference !! this is not reserch my dear .. hear from both sides n dn decide .. !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QGErR1vwDEU
yes he is five time namazi 😃😃
Do u hear about any other politican that he prays five times ? n its a general preception its a quality that people loves in him its a plus point of his character n personality coz i believe a person who prays five times do have fear of Allah n before doin any evil he wil know he have to face his ALLah n he wil be accountable ! see this is complete my perception as an individual
It is totally a person s own personal matter of how to pray n etc no one can judge him on this matter he can be judged only when he do anything as a govt member..
He is far better than those who dont even pray..!!!

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Posted: 12 years ago
Share your Views about Jinnah The great Quaid :) His second wife was a Non-Muslim .
but thanks to that Man We are living in an independent Country.
Allah will grant us everything but have you heard the word WASEELA (source) ? Jisky through we get all these things? Food ,shelter ,water?Thanks to Allah we got this beautiful country but Wasaalah was Quaid.Allah gave him the courage, the motivation & the power.

Its like sitting in a room and waiting for food k bhai Allah will give us everything here only we dont have to do any work or etc.dont you guys know what Quran says?

"Allah does not change the condition of the People who do not change their state of Goodness"

I guess we all are Muslims here.When we need something we pray.but we get those things through some source.


Edited by -Maha- - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: IndefiniteLOVE

I 100% agree with you
only Allah is our hope . calling someone else their last hope is SHIRK
and there are some stupid people who worship him astaghfirullah and they created a page
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Why-you-NO-worship-Imran-Khan/287298521312193
if this isn't shirk than what is shirk ? lack of knowledge of islam in our country.

God these pages are all made by PML N to mock PTI followers
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Posted: 12 years ago
Languages we use words pharases everything has ambugity.. it totally based on what an individual is thinking while speaking Allah neyaton ko parhkta hai .. When we say imran khan is last hope we only say that no other person in pakistan is able to bring that change which everyone desire to see.. its completely can be understandable like we say we love our parents more than anything ..jab k Rasol (S.A.W) ka farman hai k mjhsy aur Allah sy zyada mehboob koi ni hona chahye .. so now does we say no to Hazrat Muhammad (S.A.W) NO NEVER we do respect our religioin n country more than anyone else !!

Pakistan ka matlab parhny likhney k siwa kia
Pakistan ka matlba La ilah ilal laha

These two statments both are corect when u are educated dn u can speak la ilah ilal laha n its meaning to BOW ONLY IN FRONT OF UR CREATOR.. otherwise in jahil awam it wil be only to worhip their material gods.. We only focus on one thing while saying anything n mainly negative ..Please try to search the real meanings of things.

That fb page n many other are certainly do not represent Imran khan voters or lovers coz they know they are able to held him too accountable on his every single mistake.. Many fb pages are created fake and falsely to spread propaganda.. n we should not forget islam n pakistan enmies dont leave a single chance to make our public fool or propagandas against us..

The character of a ruler do matters but things priorities changes from time to time conditions to conditions we have to compromise on some or many things indeed till we get much better option...Many little things build up a personality n character.. like some one speaks truth i would love to trust him rather than someone who keeps on changing statements which are not enough to make me believe on him anymore.. there are some examples i thnk who were used for bad n good both.. like hijaj bin yousaf who was really a hard ruler but he was da one who send muhammad bin qasim to save people on a girl's cry !! u cannnot declear anyone as good or bad !! instead we should just focus on their actions n at current time their statements who is changing dm now or had done that earlier !!


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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: -Maha-

Share your Views about Jinnah The great Quaid :) His second wife was a Non-Muslim .
but thanks to that Man We are living in an independent Country.
Allah will grant us everything but have you heard the word WASEELA (source) ? Jisky through we get all these things? Food ,shelter ,water?Thanks to Allah we got this beautiful country but Wasaalah was Quaid.Allah gave him the courage the motivation the power.

Its like sitting in a room and waiting for food k bhai Allah will give us everything here only we dont have to do any work or etc.dont you guys know what Quran says?

"Allah does not change the condition of the People who do not change their state of Goodness"

I guess we all are Muslims here.When we need something we pray.but we get those things through some source.



There were people in that age who said lot about Quaid being a non believer doesnt know how to pray n etc but Shukar Alhumdulilah Allah gave him the strength n courage to bless us with a fredoom..

You are completely right ap rozi ke lea dua kar sakty ho par agar ap hath ni hilao gey tu samney pari roti bhi ni kha sakty ...


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Posted: 12 years ago
"Hum Punjabi hain Hmain Punjabi hony ki saza mil rahi hay is liye bijli nhi ati"
This is what SS said in his speech today
I hate such loser politicians Who talk about Cast, provinces,language and all these stuff.We all are PAKISTANI ,why don't these people understand this 🤬
Patriotism ka P bhe nhi pta inhain🤬
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Posted: 12 years ago
http://www.zemtv.com/2013/04/24/facing-the-nation-imran-khan-answers-important-questions-24th-april-2013/

A must Watch !! Something You Just Can't Deny He is Different !!

What u are saying about SS lol he said teer aur bala mil gaye hain aur dono ki taqrerien aik hi shakhs likhta hai i am laughing at this statement i doubt had he ever saw Imran khan speaking dil sy bolta hai wo banda aur sach bolta hai :) his speech at lahore n karachi jalsah was spell bound people didnt move an inch from their place when there was raining heavily n my brother was one of dm !!
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