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Posted: 10 years ago
#31
You have a point..No Doubt but only on the basis of Dadaji judging Ramesh..we can't say that Dadaji is always right. He is a man who does not want to think beyond his own thoughts. Does it any how make sense that just because Dolly has some problems in her life and Kirti got misguided so Nisha will go the wrong way as well. We can't judge a book by its cover right! Dadaji blames all his sons for their parenting because their kids hide things and lie to them but Virendra and Mohan also do that to him..so now whom will Dadaji blame..himself? No ways ofcourse. I don't find Dadaji wrong but his character needs strengthening..as a man of house..he has to learn to give each member a fair chance.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: JAHHNAVI

Oh haan... Umesh is suffering too! Man, that kid needs to get out of that place. He's becoming a scaredy cat day by day & if Aman were my sister, tohh I would definitely ask her to reconsider her decision of marrying such a coward. Sorry, Viraj. Umesh should just elope and start a dhaba with Amanpreet.. Best Love Story Ending EVER! 😆


If Ramesh wasn't there to stop Umesh, Umesh would have definitely eloped...😆 I don't know what Aman sees in her laddoo..😆

Actually I feel sorry for the rest of the kids. They are cornered from all fronts. No support from parents and Dadaji strangulates by his rules. Umesh, being a scared person, is surviving. If it was Sukku, he would have run away like his father.

I wish Umesh's career was taken up first instead of marriage.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: JAHHNAVI

😆😆 Wohh 'Edit post' ka ek button hota hai.. 😆
Arre I am replying in NAUC forum for the first time through my laptop today! Thank u Shivu, for coloring ur post blue! 😆 Mujhe bhi green color karna tha... But ever since India Forums adopted that Mobile wala look, it's desktop site has become a little weird! IDK.. I still prefer to use my phonewaa to post... bass rang-birange colors nahii hote mujhse! 😆


I am quick in typing through laptop...😆 Can use as much emoticons as possible..😆 Through phone navigating to symbols and characters is a pain..😆 And I have to retype every word mostly..😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lucky..

You have a point..No Doubt but only on the basis of Dadaji judging Ramesh..we can't say that Dadaji is always right. He is a man who does not want to think beyond his own thoughts. Does it any how make sense that just because Dolly has some problems in her life and Kirti got misguided so Nisha will go the wrong way as well. We can't judge a book by its cover right! Dadaji blames all his sons for their parenting because their kids hide things and lie to them but Virendra and Mohan also do that to him..so now whom will Dadaji blame..himself? No ways ofcourse. I don't find Dadaji wrong but his character needs strengthening..as a man of house..he has to learn to give each member a fair chance.


@bold That's what Dadaji doesn't see. He has decided comfortably that his decisions are the best. Yes, his intentions are in the right place, but sometimes you have to take decisions looking from all perspective. He would feel completely betrayed to think Viren and Mohan aren't the ideal sons he has been thinking them to be.

I think he is a powerful character for sure, a man with his own flaws. He would come around when he faces the truth.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shwets1502



@bold That's what Dadaji doesn't see. He has decided comfortably that his decisions are the best. Yes, his intentions are in the right place, but sometimes you have to take decisions looking from all perspective. He would feel completely betrayed to think Viren and Mohan aren't the ideal sons he has been thinking them to be.

I think he is a powerful character for sure, a man with his own flaws. He would come around when he faces the truth.

that is his actual problem.. Dadaji's thoughts are struck at his own and only POV. He is close yet far from the reality of his own family and that is his only flaw. Blaming Ramesh and others all the time is his only way to prove himself right. Dadaji has to see beyond things and know their true colors. Till then his strong character will remain underestimated in the eyes of viewers ( if not in all, in my view it will)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lucky..

that is his actual problem.. Dadaji's thoughts are struck at his own and only POV. He is close yet far from the reality of his own family and that is his only flaw. Blaming Ramesh and others all the time is his only way to prove himself right. Dadaji has to see beyond things and know their true colors. Till then his strong character will remain underestimated in the eyes of viewers ( if not in all, in my view it will)


Dadaji acts weirdly only when it comes to Ramesh. He hasn't stopped Kirti from attending parties before, he knows Sukku's nature too. But yet, when Ramesh wants to leave his kids to make decisions for their life, Dadaji opposes. Why? Because he has complete faith that Ramesh's kids would become like their father if he leaves Ramesh to take decisions?

Dadaji has realised his mistakes. But will be rectify them? He is going to be furious to know Aman had been living in the same house for so long and the family has hidden that from him. Vimla would easily say it's because of Ramesh. Will Dadaji give it thought before he too blames Ramesh like Vimla?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I am not saying that Dadaji is perfect. His methods definitely aren't. All I am saying is that I can see his POV.
Coming back to my example, I was extremely undecided till class 10. I like to sing, write, act, direct, dance... I wasn't bad at anything. So, I had long arguments with Papa regarding my career choices. I am a little inclined towards arts, but I like science too! Then, my elder brother gave me a very sound piece of advice: "If you're very passionate about something then go out and do it. To hell with everybody. But if you can't put everything at stake for that dream then play along. Do what everyone is asking you to do."

Also, my father comes from a very humble background. He wanted to become a doctor. He didn't qualify for a subsidised seat. He didn't even ask my Dadaji to arrange for money. He calmly picked himself up. He changed a lot of professions. He's working in the media now. We belong to the middle class presently.
When you've seen your parents struggle to make ends meet you don't want to scare them. You want to become independent in any possible way and support them. Your dreams have to be supported on your own means.

Dadaji too had started from scratch. He probably wasn't very secure back then.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: aneri.fan

I am not saying that Dadaji is perfect. His methods definitely aren't. All I am saying is that I can see his POV.

Coming back to my example, I was extremely undecided till class 10. I like to sing, write, act, direct, dance... I wasn't bad at anything. So, I had long arguments with Papa regarding my career choices. I am a little inclined towards arts, but I like science too! Then, my elder brother gave me a very sound piece of advice: "If you're very passionate about something then go out and do it. To hell with everybody. But if you can't put everything at stake for that dream then play along. Do what everyone is asking you to do."

Also, my father comes from a very humble background. He wanted to become a doctor. He didn't qualify for a subsidised seat. He didn't even ask my Dadaji to arrange for money. He calmly picked himself up. He changed a lot of professions. He's working in the media now. We belong to the middle class presently.
When you've seen your parents struggle to make ends meet you don't want to scare them. You want to become independent in any possible way and support them. Your dreams have to be supported on your own means.

Dadaji too had started from scratch. He probably wasn't very secure back then.


I understand why Dadaji could have taken that decision. He probably was right then, we don't know how the situation was back. But whatever he says about those incidents now, just puts him in the image that he wasn't supportive of Ramesh at all, and still isn't. He believes his decision was right, and Ramesh's wasn't. Fair enough.

But if he had taken the decision, like he is taking now, then I find him very narrow minded. He doesn't mind shattering the dreams of his children, so that they are successful in life but not happy. They have secured his childrens' life but on what cost? Viren, Mohan and Ramesh are earning well now, but are they happy in their lives? Are their families happy?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shwets1502



Dadaji acts weirdly only when it comes to Ramesh. He hasn't stopped Kirti from attending parties before, he knows Sukku's nature too. But yet, when Ramesh wants to leave his kids to make decisions for their life, Dadaji opposes. Why? Because he has complete faith that Ramesh's kids would become like their father if he leaves Ramesh to take decisions?

Dadaji has realised his mistakes. But will be rectify them? He is going to be furious to know Aman had been living in the same house for so long and the family has hidden that from him. Vimla would easily say it's because of Ramesh. Will Dadaji give it thought before he too blames Ramesh like Vimla?

i feel it is the notion of Gangwal family .. If something goes wrong Blame Ramesh! Why ? Because in his past, he tried to live up to his dreams. Is that a mistake? And even if it is lets say then who doesn't make a mistake? Whole Gangwal family blames Ramesh for something or the other and this is all because Dadaji had started it. In Aman's case, it was Ramesh who stopped Umesh from marrying without the will of family..but Vimla still blames him. This is sheer blindness. When Dadaji will come to know about it..i can't guess whether he will blame Ramesh only or not but Virendra will support Aman i feel. And then perhaps Dadaji will know that how not only Ramesh but every other member of the family begs to differ from his thoughts.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lucky..

i feel it is the notion of Gangwal family .. If something goes wrong Blame Ramesh! Why ? Because in his past, he tried to live up to his dreams. Is that a mistake? And even if it is lets say then who doesn't make a mistake? Whole Gangwal family blames Ramesh for something or the other and this is all because Dadaji had started it. In Aman's case, it was Ramesh who stopped Umesh from marrying without the will of family..but Vimla still blames him. This is sheer blindness. When Dadaji will come to know about it..i can't guess whether he will blame Ramesh only or not but Virendra will support Aman i feel. And then perhaps Dadaji will know that how not only Ramesh but every other member of the family begs to differ from his thoughts.


Exactly. Assuming Ramesh was wrong before..and Dadaji was right. It's in the past now. Ramesh isn't a bad man. He is responsible which Dadaji never gets to see because Viren and Mohan has damaged his image by their own goof ups.

Vimla is beyond my understanding. She herself says Umesh is very close to Ramesh. She knows Ramesh wouldn't intend bad for Umesh. Why is she still blaming him? Because her views doesn't match hers? Why not look from his perspective? Viren, may support Aman, but I don't think he will talk to Dadaji for Umesh. If he does, well and good. But it would be Ramesh again standing in the front of the firing line because he openly supports kids for their happiness.

Dadaji feels kids are still kids and don't have the maturity to make decisions.

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