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Posted: 9 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: sammy17

Totally agree with you. Arjun is the main character and astika is meant to be the catalyst that brings about his transformation from arjun to nagarjun. Currently shanks and mohini have taken over as the main villians, and although nikitin has a powerful presence in the show, it is so unfair for all these people saying that the show will not thrive or survive too long without him or that he is the most important character. Please stop undermining all the other actors and characters for your love of one actor as it's very petty and the show does not revolve around astika. All these people are forgetting that there are many other actors who work hard on this show and are hoping that the show shuts shop merely because one actor has walked away.

It was nikitin's decision to quit, nobody forced him, plus he could be a little bit more patient and wait as now the main story is starting but i guess he shouldn't have taken up the show if he felt he wouldn't be able to commit to it. Unfortunately indian audiences are very unpredictable with their choices so shows that deserve trps don't get it which causes makers to make changes that could possibly bring in trps. Changes aren't always a fault of the makers of the show but rather the fault of audience who refuse to watch anything other than stupid saas-bahu shows plus if a show doesn't rake in enough trp's then the channel starts to pressurise production houses causing them to make changes.


No offense but I highly disagree with you here!! You can't blame the audience always for the low trps of the show if that were the case then show wouldn have been doing well in the initial weeks either. And its not a question about fair or unfair but a matter of one's opinion, the show is really going to suffer because of Nikitin's exit. Yes the other actors are working hard and are talented but so is Nikitin in fact its not even about him being impatient or committed, that way even we can say Nawab Shah wasnt committed to the show The very fact that most of the other actors are not so happy with the creative decisions being made proves this point. He was promised a meaty role before he signed up and then later he gets something completely opposite of what he was promised. If they had intended to reduce Astika to just another character in the show then they should have said so earlier at least he would have been able to take up some other work. Put yourself in his shoes, how would you feel if someone promised you something and then they didnt keep it?? And why are you blaming the audience?? If saas-bahu was the only thing people were interested in then reality shows wouldnt have existed in India. Moreover the creatives have really done a shitty job specially with the Noorjun love story which they hoped to bank on to attract the audience. Unfortunately it only ended up boring most of the people and since that didn't work they decided to elevate Shank and Mohini to the main villains. Honestly if these guys can even get their stuff right then you cant blame the actors for quitting or the audience getting bored. Honestly this show doesnt have a single element at the moment to keep you hooked to the show or make you wish to continue to watch it. The only reason why most of us are following it is because somehow we feel obligated to do so because of that one actor you feel isnt very important to the show. Moreover even I dont know how anyone would be ok watching a fake Astika on the show considering we all know how replacing actors playing central characters affect a show. You think Arjun alone is enough to keep this show going but I dont agree with it. Like someone earlier pointed to have a great superhero you need a great supervillain or an antihero otherwise there's nothing really to watch.
Edited by Rein123 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: Rein123


No offense but I highly disagree with you here!! You can't blame the audience always for the low trpsof the show if that were the case then show wouldn have been doing well in the initial weeks either. And its not a question about fair or unfair but a matter of one's opinion, the show is really going to suffer because of Nikitin's exit. Yes the other actors are working hard and are talented but so is Nikitin in fact its not even about him being impatient or committed, that way even we can say Nawab Shah wasnt committed to the show The very fact that most of the other actors are not so happy with the creative decisions being made proves this point. He was promised a meaty role before he signed up and then later he gets something completely opposite of what he was promised. If they had intended to reduce Astika to just another character in the show then they should have said so earlier at least he would have been able to take up some other work. Put yourself in his shoes, how would you feel if someone promised you something and then theydidntkeep it?? And why are you blaming the audience?? If saas-bahu was the only thing people were interested in then reality shows wouldnt have existed in India. Moreover the creatives have really done a shitty job specially with the Noorjunlove story which they hoped to bank on to attract the audience. Unfortunately it only ended up boring most of the people and since that didn't work they decided to elevate Shank and Mohini to the main villains. Honestly if these guys can even get their stuff right then you cant blame the actors for quitting or the audience getting bored. Honestly this show doesnt have a single element at the moment to keep you hooked to the show or make you wish to continue to watch it. The only reason why most of us are following it is because somehow we feel obligated to do so because of that one actor you feel isnt very important to the show. Moreover even I dont know how anyone would be ok watching a fake Astika on the show considering we all know how replacing actors playing central characters affect a show. You think Arjun alone is enough to keep this show going but I dont agree with it. Like someone earlier pointed to have a great superhero you need a great supervillain or an antihero otherwise there's nothing really to watch.

look not to fight guys its just that he is leaving show its upto him .. he dont want to wait its ok they can replace him. We are just here to watch story .. he want to leave he can but why all face lose .. and they better know whats the actual reason behind leaving .. we just want to enjoy story. We r not only here to see faces
Edited by mysterygirll - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#13
Okay first of all I will say that in the Mahabharata,Arjuna wasn't the central character as many people believe.He was one of the main characters no doubt but there were others who were equally important.

Now coming back to our topic,yes Nagarjun is about a boy named Arjun who discovers his journey to fulfil a great purpose.No one is denying it.

However I disagree that Astika does not have any importance.Even before the show began Astika was promoted to be the main antagonist and Arjun's primary antithesis.His character was also said to be equally prominent with his various shades and conflicted loyalties.This made him an important pillar of the show along with Arjun and Vasuki.

About Nikitin's performance then from the beginning of the show Nikitin had managed to impress most of the audience with his onscreen persona and power packed performance.Many agreed that Nikitin had stood out in the entire cast.Though I am not saying that others are less capable.

If he feels that he was cheated then I find nothing wrong with it.Because Astika's character was sidelined badly.His screens pace was reduced badly for Shan and Mohini.
And not only Astika but I feel that Vasuki's prominence has also decreased.

And no one here is doubting Anshuman 's acting credibility.But it's also true that a story cannot thrive with the protagonist alone.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: ---Andromeda---

Okay first of all I will say that in the Mahabharata,Arjuna wasn't the central character as many people believe.He was one of the main characters no doubt but there were others who were equally important.



Now coming back to our topic,yes Nagarjun is about a boy named Arjun who discovers his journey to fulfil a great purpose.No one is denying it.



However I disagree that Astika does not have any importance.Even before the show began Astika was promoted to be the main antagonist and Arjun's primary antithesis.His character was also said to be equally prominent with his various shades and conflicted loyalties.This made him an important pillar of the show along with Arjun and Vasuki.



About Nikitin's performance then from the beginning of the show Nikitin had managed to impress most of the audience with his onscreen persona and power packed performance.Many agreed that Nikitin had stood out in the entire cast.Though I am not saying that others are less capable.



If he feels that he was cheated then I find nothing wrong with it.Because Astika's character was sidelined badly.His screens pace was reduced badly for Shan and Mohini.

And not only Astika but I feel that Vasuki's prominence has also decreased.



And no one here is doubting Anshuman 's acting credibility.But it's also true that a story cannot thrive with the protagonist alone.


You penned my thoughts exactly.
Love you ashi.
If this show survive without Niketan then let it be.
If any other actor plays astika it is hard to digest.
Astika had many layers which CVS ignored royally.
In every epic it is not the hero who alone save the world.
In mb Arjun was great but weak without Krishna
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Posted: 9 years ago
#15
Hello everybody, thank you for beutiful comments. And personally I am not bothered if he is cheated or not or if this show will be boring. He is a good actor and played in a big film against Shahrukh khan. So people used him in the front line in promo to attract the audience. But that does not mean he is central character in this show and all other actors circle around him. No it does not work like that.
All actors work according to the demand of the story. And that is what has been going on, period. The epicentre of the story is 'MANI', which is inside Arjun's head. So he becomes a seeker to find out what is going on inside his head. It becomes a journey to him. And that makes all other characters revolve around him. Sometime Astika is more close to him, sometime Vasuki and sometime Shank and other characters according to the demand of the story. That is all, nobody is big or small.

So I like to forget about actors totally and concentrate what messsage this show is trying to convey. And I think unlike other saas bahu show, this show is about WISDOM, about MANI that we all possess but only few people like Arjun can endure the pain to go through all the way. So I am really excited for coming episodes about MANI, Arjun's interact with it and it's effect in Arjun.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: Rein123


No offense but I highly disagree with you here!! You can't blame the audience always for the low trps of the show if that were the case then show wouldn have been doing well in the initial weeks either. And its not a question about fair or unfair but a matter of one's opinion, the show is really going to suffer because of Nikitin's exit. Yes the other actors are working hard and are talented but so is Nikitin in fact its not even about him being impatient or committed, that way even we can say Nawab Shah wasnt committed to the show The very fact that most of the other actors are not so happy with the creative decisions being made proves this point. He was promised a meaty role before he signed up and then later he gets something completely opposite of what he was promised. If they had intended to reduce Astika to just another character in the show then they should have said so earlier at least he would have been able to take up some other work. Put yourself in his shoes, how would you feel if someone promised you something and then they didnt keep it?? And why are you blaming the audience?? If saas-bahu was the only thing people were interested in then reality shows wouldnt have existed in India. Moreover the creatives have really done a shitty job specially with the Noorjun love story which they hoped to bank on to attract the audience. Unfortunately it only ended up boring most of the people and since that didn't work they decided to elevate Shank and Mohini to the main villains. Honestly if these guys can even get their stuff right then you cant blame the actors for quitting or the audience getting bored. Honestly this show doesnt have a single element at the moment to keep you hooked to the show or make you wish to continue to watch it. The only reason why most of us are following it is because somehow we feel obligated to do so because of that one actor you feel isnt very important to the show. Moreover even I dont know how anyone would be ok watching a fake Astika on the show considering we all know how replacing actors playing central characters affect a show. You think Arjun alone is enough to keep this show going but I dont agree with it. Like someone earlier pointed to have a great superhero you need a great supervillain or an antihero otherwise there's nothing really to watch.


I named a number of reasons that combined are reasons for low trp's, I never said that trp's is always the reason for low trp's and all have in some ways contributed to the low trp's of the show. Saas-bahu and reality shows are what majority of indian audience want to see instead of fresh content; why else is this show like others of a similar genre getting such low trp's? Because shows of this genre are less favoured in comparison to the many melodramatic family drama's that most of the indian audience watch, and the ratings of these shows prove my point that in general genre's like naagarjun get significantly lower trp's. And why are so many people who are upset by nikitin's leave making out to be that people who still think the show will be good without nikitin as arjun is the main character are hating on nikitin. I like nikitin too but my argument is that he isn't the main character and that claiming that the show will be a disaster without him is like claiming that the success and future of the show is solely on nikitin's shoulder when there are so many actors working hard on this show. And secondly i find that instead of talking for yourself you generalise far too much about the fan base such as using terms like 'majority of us' or 'most of us'. When you make such generalisations it is no longer a matter of opinion. And i never once said that nikitin was not important in the show, i have always maintained that people are undermining the importance of other actors in this show for their love of nikitin so this is a blatant case of putting words into my mouth, which could you please refrain from doing.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: missuni


dear u people are taking other people views wrong .all r fans of nikitin ... and all are dissapoint on quitting decision .. maybe there is another reason of quitting, maybe daily soaps r not his cup of tea anyways.. no one said he is not important ... we just said that they might replace him any other who will play astika can do well too .. nikitin was not only talented ... and we watch drama because we like its story so we are not here only to see faces ... and the other guy who will take astika role, we will get used to it with the passage of time ... quitting is his decision , why all face lose... we are just here for other characters , story and for anshumans good acting and upcoming twists


Yes we are niketan fans.
@missuni you breathed fire when we said we don't like noorarjun.
So we will also talk same.
Go for other characters. But i wish nagarjun don't suffer the fate of laut aavo trisha
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sammy17


I named a number of reasons that combined are reasons for low trp's, I never said that trp's is always the reason for low trp's and all have in some ways contributed to the low trp's of the show. Saas-bahu and reality shows are what majority of indian audience want to see instead of fresh content; why else is this show like others of a similar genre getting such low trp's? Because shows of this genre are less favoured in comparison to the many melodramatic family drama's that most of the indian audience watch, and the ratings of these shows prove my point that in general genre's like naagarjun get significantly lower trp's. And why are so many people who are upset by nikitin's leave making out to be that people who still think the show will be good without nikitin as arjun is the main character are hating on nikitin. I like nikitin too but my argument is that he isn't the main character and that claiming that the show will be a disaster without him is like claiming that the success and future of the show is solely on nikitin's shoulder when there are so many actors working hard on this show. And secondly i find that instead of talking for yourself you generalise far too much about the fan base such as using terms like 'majority of us' or 'most of us'. When you make such generalisations it is no longer a matter of opinion. And i never once said that nikitin was not important in the show, i have always maintained that people are undermining the importance of other actors in this show for their love of nikitin so this is a blatant case of putting words into my mouth, which could you please refrain from doing.

Is that an accusation??? Putting words in your mouth?? All I did was clearly point at what you've written in your previous post. You've mentioned reasons besides the audiences' taste for low trps, may I ask what those reasons are and where have you mentioned them in this particular thread in response to my posts??? And FYI I never said Astika played by Nikitin is the main character or accused you of saying that 'Astika played by Nikitin is unimportant'as you have accused me of saying, I merely said that he is one of the central characters as per the promos and original storyline whatever it might have been and yes without Nikitin the show is going to hit a low, I never said Nikitin alone is enough to make the show a success or the other actors aren't as great as him, therefore I suggest that you refrain from putting words in others mouths. Moreover you alone are the one who claimed that saying the show is going to be a disaster without nikitin is the same as saying that Nikitin alone is enough to make this show a success, I didnt make that statement, and I clearly disagree with the latter part of the statement.One more thing you're contradicting yourself when you claim that I'm generalising the audience by using terms like most of us or the majority of the audience but you're also doing nothing different by blaming the audience for the show's unpredictable trps. Moreover I was expressing my opinion which again i am free to do so over Nikitin deciding to quit the show, never have I ever said that 'most of us feel' that him deciding to quit is a wise decison or anything likewise however you're the one who started raising questions about his commitment and even called him impatient, in response to which I have only made a post where I feel him leaving the show is justifiable, and even pointed out that he isn't the first to quit the show yet you're quick to only question his commitment while clearly there are other actors who are also upset with their roles and probably want to do the same thing, Yes I like Nikitin as an actor and I am allowed to express my dissapointment over how the PH has treated him. Once again I'll point it out for the final time that if the audience only preferred saas- bahu dramas then Nagarjun would'nt have done well trp wise in the opening week but it did which means people were interested otherwise the result would have been similar to Baazigar's opening week trps. If you want to blame anyone for the sharp drop in the show's viewership then you should blame the CVS as you did so earlier with Noori. BTW let me clarify that when I use the term most of us I'm including myself too, or maybe I'll be a little more precise with the us that I'm referring too, I am talking about the people on this forum who are upset with Nikitin's exit or those who have expressed their dislike for noorjun. So kindly avoid making assumptions about people.
Edited by Rein123 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#19
At very first,Astika was the main antagonist against Arjun and we not only liked but enjoyed Astika im that role,but now the makers are solely investing their interest in shank and Mohini,which is actually very boring for me as a viewer 🥱🥱🥱
Vasuki and Astika are two main forces who can make Arjun lead his journey from Arjun to Nagarjun..if any one of them is missing,the show will definitely lose it's charm..
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Posted: 9 years ago
#20
As I said problems and transformations are going really dip in Arjun. And now he understand the power inside. But still he has furthermore to explore and learn to utilise it.

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