Is this okay? Himmanshoo's language with Amruta

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Posted: 10 years ago

#41

Originally posted by: RomAtHeart
With what I have seen of Amruta and Himmanshoo, they are not a coocheekoo couple. And the words "idiot" and "stupid" are not disrespectful either. They maybe a couple which is idealized, but we can't forget the fact that they are not ideal. They are humans, and little fights and differences are normal. In fact, they are healthy. As Amruta had noted, 'it's in the spur of the moment. "
And talking about civility or decency, I don't feel idiot or stupid is derogatory to that extent. The kind of equation HimRuta share, which is less of cheesy and more of friendly, it was quite normal seeing them bicker like children. 😆

Thank you! 😆

Amruta and Himanshoo have never been the "choocheekoo" kind of a couple, they've never been hiding behind any refined facades just because there's the cameras rolling at them. They are different and liked so much over a short span of time, simply due to how they constantly keep breaking stereotypes. They aren't hypersensitive like Payal is with her partner or spouse, nor are they conditional on how a spouse presents them in public, nor do they have an elaborate set of "dos" and "donts" of how their partner should represent them. Thank you very much, but they're not gods and we'd like it that they don't pretend to be as well.😆 They're as real and as genuine as one can get. They're each other's spouses, they're each other's best friends as well as each other's number one critics when times comes and most importantly, they're humans. lol They're the kind, who doesn't have to worry constantly about their image because they are anyway not depicting themselves as perfect or gods and have gotten enough appreciation for being as genuine as they can get and for the fact that, they're so relatable. They don't judge each other or any other! lol Which is why they're with each other for all these years and are loved in epic proportions over a short span of time. I mean seriously, all power to them.👍🏼

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Posted: 10 years ago

#42

Originally posted by: Julie0001
@ Unnati, it is not nice to say that other people have motives for being here such as favortism to other couples.

You can check all my posts and actually I have always been a Himmanshoo fan for several years.

It is insulting that you have to find a hidden motive vs, the obvious one. I was born in America and raised here. There is a concept of verbal abuse. I am not saying that this is happening here, but I do think words can hurt. Language has meaning and should be used thoughtfully.

I am not okay with him calling her stupid in anger. Amruta has even said that he says things in anger that are unfair.

Please be careful about ascribing motives and intentions to those who write on these topics. You are cheapening the debate here.

That is the same as me saying that the girls who think it is okay for bf/husbands to call them names have low self-esteem issues and will accept crap from anyone.

Firstly, I wasn't ascribing anything to you at all. I quoted the person I expressed that to. Either way, you may feel free to disregard it. Secondly, Iam not concerned with anyone's place of birth or upbringing or the norms surrounding their culture. It was a question raised by you ,which definitely involved your perspective of a situation which was subjective in nature, based on your experiences and I objected to the generalizations and the judgements made over another couple, their style based on one's own. Morever, I objected to the moral policing of what is right or wrong (as that is against the forum rules as well) of one's own taste and accord being thrust upon another's judgement of what should be right or wrong as well. I've stated it already and I will do so again. Personal preferances or cultural preferances being used to judge another's style or expression is not the most broad minded of approaches. Out here in India, I tease my friends and we call each other stupid / idiot during a fight and HimRuta are friends before spouses, so it's normal for them. My simple point here is, everyone's style of expression and equation is different from the other and one does not deserve to be judged based on one's personal preferances or cultural norms.

The margin of error of what is unacceptable in America and India if big, is most likely not going to be acceptable in most other countries as well. For example, a murder cannot be counted acceptable in any country. It is the small things that are bound to be different and I believe, being called an "idiot" is a small thing indeed and it can be excused from judgement, considering this is a different country. But then again, it has nothing to do with countries in the first place I believe. It's personal preferances. An Indian may still not like being called the same by a spouse. A question raised if it is acceptable is not the problem, it is the judgement passed, based on personal/cultural persepectives that I have a problem with because there always needs to be a benefit of doubt given. It helps in perceiving and understanding of things and situations better, if looked at things with a holistic approach.

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Reemi

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Posted: 10 years ago

#43

Why is this topic being unnecessarily stretched and that too to a completely different zone? And what's with with use of words like abuse, learning manners, being slapped and kicked. We are talking about a fight, not domestic violence. Chill people.

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Julie0001

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Posted: 10 years ago

#44

Originally posted by: Exquisite_me
Why is this topic being unnecessarily stretched and that too to a completely different zone? And what's with with use of words like abuse, learning manners, being slapped and kicked. We are talking about a fight, not domestic violence. Chill people.

I respect this. I think the question is the manner in which to fight and what is acceptable. That is all.

It seems like it differs and perspectives differ. But where is the line? Some people think that slap is certainly past the line but saying cruel things are not. Cruel may be problematic a term, but it is Amruta who has brought up Himmanshoo's anger more than once.

I don't think her reactions invite a "let's chill" attitude.

Others equate hurtful words with a type of violence. In the latter case they do not think that they are stretching. I appreciate your point.

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Julie0001

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Posted: 10 years ago

#45

@Unnati, I appreciate that thoughtful response. Himmanshoo used to play a character named Guddu, who was angry and he yelled quite a bit. Some people on the forum at that time felt the way Guddu was always yelling at the female main character was horrible and not fitting the hero role. They found that equation of a hero an issue. People disagreed on this from all parts of the world. Of course they bring a perspective. But some feel that there is a line. I guess I find this behavior unbecoming to women in general. I certainly would not want a daughter to think that this behavior is fine Ultimately we know little about Amruta and Himmanshoo. They are marketing a fantasy or picture.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#46

While I won't term namecalling your spouse as friendly/amusing banter or childish or in any way related to humor, even when he told her "shaant raho", she quietened down immediately until he said idiot..which naturally annoyed her. However, I was more disturbed by the "Sorry bolo" since he refused to continue until he had gotten her apology.

Having said that, we are no one to comment on a couple's personal dynamics and someone's behaviour when we know them almost superficially. A couple who may get into a fight at the smallest of things can love each other and be romantic in their personal space to extreme extent. And I say this from experience not mine😆 but my parents, where we call our dad the pendulum because of his extremes😆😆

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Posted: 10 years ago

#47

Originally posted by: Julie0001
@Unnati, I appreciate that thoughtful response. Himmanshoo used to play a character named Guddu, who was angry and he yelled quite a bit. Some people on the forum at that time felt the way Guddu was always yelling at the female main character was horrible and not fitting the hero role. They found that equation of a hero an issue. People disagreed on this from all parts of the world. Of course they bring a perspective. But some feel that there is a line. I guess I find this behavior unbecoming to women in general. I certainly would not want a daughter to think that this behavior is fine Ultimately we know little about Amruta and Himmanshoo. They are marketing a fantasy or picture.

I appreciate your perspective. While I agree we still know very little of Himanshoo and Amruta, I believe they aren't marketing anything. They've been as genuine as they can be, in the little while that we've observed them for. But yes, it may still be short a span to conclude a perspective on them.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#48

Originally posted by: NinjaInPyjamas
While I won't term namecalling your spouse as friendly/amusing banter or childish or in any way related to humor, even when he told her "shaant raho", she quietened down immediately until he said idiot..which naturally annoyed her. However, I was more disturbed by the "Sorry bolo" since he refused to continue until he had gotten her apology.

Having said that, we are no one to comment on a couple's personal dynamics and someone's behaviour when we know them almost superficially. A couple who may get into a fight at the smallest of things can love each other and be romantic in their personal space to extreme extent. And I say this from experience not mine😆 but my parents, where we call our dad the pendulum because of his extremes😆😆

Okay, I didn't want to bring that up out here.. but I might as well mention of it on a mild note, since it just proves how things can swing like a pendulum for couples exuding such a love-hate demeanour :p

I know of a couple, who're related to me. Iam really close to the woman from the couple. I know this for a fact, that they can fight and bicker outside all day and it's their way of being passionate for / towards/ about each other. They literally set each other off over the slightest of things and from what I know, it's fireworks when the lights are out :p It's magnetic and they're always either on the attract or repel mode. It drives everyone crazy when we're around them, their banters, but gracious me they're livewires anyway.

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Julie0001

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Posted: 10 years ago

#49

@Unnati, I have appreciated all of your comments. I hope I have said nothing to hurt you. You did make me think about a few things. I think we can still like a couple but not everything about them. It is these shades of gray that are important. I think the way I mean marketing is that there is a selective editing by SP and certainly to a little extent all humans will act differently on camera. The idea that they are all "shooting" this is prevalent and ultimately they are working on that show. So I do not think that this is genuine, but we see glimpses of real (good and bad).

Take care and I wish you the best.

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Julie0001

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Posted: 10 years ago

#50

Originally posted by: NinjaInPyjamas
While I won't term namecalling your spouse as friendly/amusing banter or childish or in any way related to humor, even when he told her "shaant raho", she quietened down immediately until he said idiot..which naturally annoyed her. However, I was more disturbed by the "Sorry bolo" since he refused to continue until he had gotten her apology.
Having said that, we are no one to comment on a couple's personal dynamics and someone's behaviour when we know them almost superficially. A couple who may get into a fight at the smallest of things can love each other and be romantic in their personal space to extreme extent. And I say this from experience not mine😆 but my parents, where we call our dad the pendulum because of his extremes😆😆

I don't like the power dynamics that are always at play here.

I think certainly I am nobody to comment; however, the fact that they are putting their relationship in the public eye invites everybody to comment. I was not commenting on them as a whole but really an action that I objected to. I appreciate your comment.

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