Something I feel about this track - Page 3

Originally posted by: forest_foliage

At this point of the show, nothing justifies the tracks at all. This track would have made a lot of sense prior to the Chaand pe chalo track, but now it looks totally unnecessary ! I really don't know if Veeranshu would eventually recall everything or would it be a fresh start for Veeranshu falling for Bani all over again ! I low - key wanted both of them to have their own sweet little love story without any past baggage. Sigh ! The damage inflicted is beyond repair.

I think if the chaand track hadn't happened, this would have been a really angsty track with potential. It would have been "the first time" that Bani was faced with losing Veer and his love, and the whole situation would have felt more intense. Because that track has only recently just happened, this just feels repetitive and manipulative, and at this point in the show's life, like a waste of time. We know Veer will recall everything (God I hope, rather than a fresh start situation), but when we have so few episodes left, I too wanted them to have a track where they dealt with life together, not in yet more opposition to each other. My (teensy tiny) hope that this was some plan orchestrated by VAni obviously was a step too far for these writers, who seem to be so in love with the villains on this show that our heroes constantly suffer at their hands.

And yeah, I wanted a sweet little love story for them too 😭

Originally posted by: forest_foliage

At this point of the show, nothing justifies the tracks at all. This track would have made a lot of sense prior to the Chaand pe chalo track, but now it looks totally unnecessary ! I really don't know if Veeranshu would eventually recall everything or would it be a fresh start for Veeranshu falling for Bani all over again ! I low - key wanted both of them to have their own sweet little love story without any past baggage. Sigh ! The damage inflicted is beyond repair.

Very honestly, i think chand and chandni track were bought on to cover up the mistake of writers. It was like suhaagraat dikhane ke baad inko realise hua ki oho...audience ko toh pta hi nhi ki bani and veer vo flirting vale zone se aage aa gye hai so how do show that bani is madly in love with veer, bring chandni and her screech🙂.

I would have loved the sequence had it ended after bani confessed to veer that she wanted to stay in the marriage,without the supersonic speed vala suhaagraat!! Because as much as it was progressive for them to show bani and veer's intimacy without ily, it does not exactly suit their characters. What suits them is the slow burn kinda love, jiska track inhone vo flirting vale scenes ke saath shuru kiya tha...

Originally posted by: RaniZelda

I think if the chaand track hadn't happened, this would have been a really angsty track with potential. It would have been "the first time" that Bani was faced with losing Veer and his love, and the whole situation would have felt more intense. Because that track has only recently just happened, this just feels repetitive and manipulative, and at this point in the show's life, like a waste of time. We know Veer will recall everything (God I hope, rather than a fresh start situation), but when we have so few episodes left, I too wanted them to have a track where they dealt with life together, not in yet more opposition to each other. My (teensy tiny) hope that this was some plan orchestrated by VAni obviously was a step too far for these writers, who seem to be so in love with the villains on this show that our heroes constantly suffer at their hands.

And yeah, I wanted a sweet little love story for them too 😭

I had hoped that atleast in the last track writers would show vani working together. Issi bahane hume cutesy nok jhok pyaar vale scenes toh milte. All i want now is ki in logo ko chain se aaraam se normal zindagi jeene do...mtlb i want them doing some coupley stuff together.

See, I personally have never felt anything much for Bani because the character is written so. But I have always felt that Bani got Veeranshu way too easily. She has done nothing in my opinion to earn that love or get to keep it. And the same goes for her title as Adi Naagin, btw.

Her behavior with Veeranshu was outrageous, to say the least. And mujhko Veeranshu ke liye bura jyaada lagta hai, because the bugger did not do anything or remember anything to understand this level of hatred. But he put up with it, because for him his love was bigger than his ego.

Bani has tremendous ego, and she ofcourse fell in love, and all that, but bro what did she do to earn that love. Nothing. Muft me sab mila hai usko. Aur har action ka reaction aata hai in equal measure, boss. Newton uncle bol ke gaye hai.😆

As you said Ally, mujhko bhi Bani ke liye zara bhi bura nahi lagta. Uske saath aur bhi jyaada bura hona chahiye, lekin humari kismat, episodes kam hai.😆 Jitna Veeranshu ne jhela hai, uska aadha bhi Bani ke saath nahi hua. Aur irony dekho, jis Jai ka naam leke woh Veeranshu ko zaleel karti thi, wohi sharafat ki missile, uske life me bambaari kar raha hai.😎

Agar story ki aisi ki taisi nahi hui hoti na, to zarur popcorn khate khate dekhti😆. Lekin meri will power mujhko sirf written update padne tak ka power deti hai😆, uske baad Bani ke dimaag aur story ki tarah mera bhi petrol khatm ho jata hai.😆

Originally posted by: AliChase

Na, re. You're right in the point that love isn't about point scoring. But karma is about point scoring. Making it even.

Veer hai hypnotized warna the whole point of point scoring doesn't come. Karma has nothing to with love. One doesn't bring karma. It comes on its own.

Veer yeh sabh jaanbujh kar nahi kar raha, I know that totally.

Whoever said Karma isn't torture. Trust me. It isn't anything short of torture.

Veer ne yeh sabh bhula diya. The point isn't if Veer is doing this at all. That is not the talk at all. Veer hypnotized hai tabhi yeh kar raha hai warna sawaal hi nahi aata about him doing this to her. Na.

Veer can honestly never be done with Bani especially when she's coming to him. My whole point is that it doesn't make me feel really bad for Bani because she's done worse to him. As a third person who's seen both the sides, I don't feel that bad for Bani.

I call out on the shitty writing too. I'm not a fan of this stupid hypnotism track either but its just what I think.

But i agree with some of your points.

Originally posted by: AliChase

It is just from a third person point of view. If I see from single person point of view of Bani, okay right, not what she should deserve because she's come ahead after shedding her old skin of hatred. It just why I can't relate with this track and this crying of hers. Maybe because i'm also a tough cookie to impress when it comes to Bani's side.

Haan, I see your point, but to me, this isn't karma. Yes, karma is torturous but it's also about getting the result of your own actions. In this situation, karma would be if Bani fell in love with Veer and he decided (in his own mind) that nah, I've had enough and I'm moving on. If he had the intention of giving up on her, giving her a taste of that same medicine, to my mind, that would be karma. This is basically like some imposter wearing Veer's face punishing her for a crime against the guy he's posing as. Makes no sense. That's what gets me.

Yes, I get your point that perhaps Bani needed to feel the pain that Veer felt at her actions towards him, and that the irony is it happens now when she's fully in love with him. But we've already had that before with the Chandni track, and moreover, here Veer's treatment of Bani comes because some random dude waved a magic wand and made him forget everything that defined his character (i.e. his love for and obsession with Bani/Naageshwari). So it doesn't feel like karma so much as emotional manipulation. Yeah, totally calling out the shitty writing here with you.

I also understand that having seen both sides, you feel more for Veer because of how she treated him. But that's the point - we saw both sides. In their early interactions Veer took pains to keep referring to himself as the villain - no wonder she took him at face value. It took Bani a long time to see what we saw, call it due to her own blind hatred, or the manipulations of everyone around her, or a lack of support from anyone who could actually give her answers. Whatever the reasons.

And I guess for me, what I saw was that during all this, Veer gave Bani the understanding that a lot of people in the audience didn't. He gave her his patience, his love, his time. Not for one second did he express a desire to get back at her for what she said or did. So the writers doing this now feels (to me) cruel, rather than poetic justice. Esp. because we've already seen this play out once already.

I do get that from your POV, you see this as something that was due to Bani as a result of her actions. And perhaps that's why you can't relate to her misery now. I'm not disagreeing with that opinion necessarily, it's yours to have and I'm sure others share it also. Personally I think this is the wrong time, wrong situation and wrong way for the writers to throw karmic retribution at Bani. Veer kare toh thik bhi hai, par Veer ko puppet bana kar koi aur uss se karwai...yeh galat lagta hai mujhko 😒

Originally posted by: Dmad

I had hoped that atleast in the last track writers would show vani working together. Issi bahane hume cutesy nok jhok pyaar vale scenes toh milte. All i want now is ki in logo ko chain se aaraam se normal zindagi jeene do...mtlb i want them doing some coupley stuff together.

Dost, right now I would settle for Veer coming out of his stupid memory loss/hypnosis/magic nonsense in tomorrow's ep 😒 usske aasaar bhi kam hi lagte hain mujhko, normal zindagi and coupley stuff dekhna toh bohot door ki baat lagti hain 😭

Sidenote: I've always felt ki our favourite characters and jodis (across shows, genres, languages) would fare so much better if they were left alone to live their lives happily without their own writers' interferences 😆

Originally posted by: RaniZelda

Haan, I see your point, but to me, this isn't karma. Yes, karma is torturous but it's also about getting the result of your own actions. In this situation, karma would be if Bani fell in love with Veer and he decided (in his own mind) that nah, I've had enough and I'm moving on. If he had the intention of giving up on her, giving her a taste of that same medicine, to my mind, that would be karma. This is basically like some imposter wearing Veer's face punishing her for a crime against the guy he's posing as. Makes no sense. That's what gets me.

Eh...karma is a tricky bitch man!! I don't think any of us can decide what karma would give back to bani for her behaviour towards veer.

Because except for veer, no one can say what he felt or went through when bani spilled her venom. So thinking about karma is a moot point in my opinion.

Yes, I get your point that perhaps Bani needed to feel the pain that Veer felt at her actions towards him, and that the irony is it happens now when she's fully in love with him. But we've already had that before with the Chandni track, and moreover, here Veer's treatment of Bani comes because some random dude waved a magic wand and made him forget everything that defined his character (i.e. his love for and obsession with Bani/Naageshwari). So it doesn't feel like karma so much as emotional manipulation. Yeah, totally calling out the shitty writing here with you.

I also understand that having seen both sides, you feel more for Veer because of how she treated him. But that's the point - we saw both sides. In their early interactions Veer took pains to keep referring to himself as the villain - no wonder she took him at face value. It took Bani a long time to see what we saw, call it due to her own blind hatred, or the manipulations of everyone around her, or a lack of support from anyone who could actually give her answers. Whatever the reasons.

This, this is exactly my point. We all felt that bani was stupid a lot of times and we all kinda cursed her when she trusted jay or was rude to veeranshu. But agar hum abni ki jagah hote, we would've also taken somewhat similar decisions.

Let's not forget her very 1st impression of veeranshu was really bad. I mean she literally rescued girls from trafficking and all that stuff was directly linked to veer. And then when she remembered her past, his image literally took a nosedive.

We as audience have been given 3rd perspective, a peek into the lives of the characters. So hum bahut asaani se judge krlete hai. Fir vo villain ho ya hero/heroine.

And I guess for me, what I saw was that during all this, Veer gave Bani the understanding that a lot of people in the audience didn't. He gave her his patience, his love, his time. Not for one second did he express a desire to get back at her for what she said or did. So the writers doing this now feels (to me) cruel, rather than poetic justice. Esp. because we've already seen this play out once already.

Veer's character before getting all butchered up was shown as a very logical one. As a smart man he realised that in the beginning itself ki bani ki uske baare main rai bahut kharab hai. First he has to improve his image only then he can think of getting her love. And that's what he did. Payback ka sawaal kind of tab hota jab bani ki rai veeranshu ke baare mai acchi hoti but then itna raita phelta hi kaha!!!

I do get that from your POV, you see this as something that was due to Bani as a result of her actions. And perhaps that's why you can't relate to her misery now. I'm not disagreeing with that opinion necessarily, it's yours to have and I'm sure others share it also. Personally I think this is the wrong time, wrong situation and wrong way for the writers to throw karmic retribution at Bani. Veer kare toh thik bhi hai, par Veer ko puppet bana kar koi aur uss se karwai...yeh galat lagta hai mujhko 😒

I think for me personally Veer insane, sanki, limitless love for Bani is what snared me. The way he felt that instant connection with her- everything about I was there. The reason I do feel that Veer took everything Bani dished out was because Veer knew Bani was his- he had god knows how many lifetimes/years to know that- he has lived various lives knowing he was hers and only hers. The guy that would die with a smile on his face for her- would take anything she dished out to him because of that connection his soul has with hers. I wouldn't have expected anything else from him. There is nobody else from him. Where as Bani lived the same years/lives hating him with that intensity- which is why we got that Bani at the start. For Bani he took her 'soulmate' away (🤢). This is why to a certain extent I think the intensity of Veer's love will be greater than Bani's to a certain extent- he has had longer to live and understand with his feelings. She hasn't. Which is why the intensity of his connection and love for Bani is pushing through a magic of an angel/a celestial being. Nothing can or ever has stopped true love- which is why the magic is weakening.

It's only in this lifetime Bani has realised she was always meant to be his - which is why I think she needed a solid realisation track. She needed to realise who her true soulmate was. Instead of that we got moon gate (lol) Don't get me wrong I do think she realised what she needed to in that- and the vows that she gave were bang on. But I do think that had they given us this track instead of moon gate- it would have been perfect.

I think giving these two tracks back to back is just frustrating. But this track would have hit deeper- because in moon-gate he just misbehaved with her and treated her badly (and that is easier to reconcile given his previous behaviour). But this guy that told her repeatedly and everyone repeatedly that she is the reason for his existence- has forgotten her existence. The guy that wanted her touch- gets repelled by it. The guy that said she she says Veer- something happens to his heart- doesn't want her to call him that. I think all of this would have given us the angst we wanted (instead again we got moon-gate lol) I don't think there could be a bigger hurt or punishment for Bani (again at this stage I am like punishment for what?!). Sorry to sound repetitve but again this would have been a solid track had moon-gate not happened.

I personally think its just getting OTT with this lets torture Bani. The woman fell in love with her cheelu baby- god blessed the relationship- now everyone please go away and leave them alone

Originally posted by: Humes22

I think giving these two tracks back to back is just frustrating. But this track would have hit deeper- because in moon-gate he just misbehaved with her and treated her badly (and that is easier to reconcile given his previous behaviour). But this guy that told her repeatedly and everyone repeatedly that she is the reason for his existence- has forgotten her existence. The guy that wanted her touch- gets repelled by it. The guy that said she she says Veer- something happens to his heart- doesn't want her to call him that. I think all of this would have given us the angst we wanted (instead again we got moon-gate lol) I don't think there could be a bigger hurt or punishment for Bani (again at this stage I am like punishment for what?!). Sorry to sound repetitve but again this would have been a solid track had moon-gate not happened.

I personally think its just getting OTT with this lets torture Bani. The woman fell in love with her cheelu baby- god blessed the relationship- now everyone please go away and leave them alone

Agreed with everything but esp the point that this track would have been perfect instead of the moon track. The angst of Veer - who has always felt a connection with her no matter how she behaved with him - forgetting Bani? That would have hurt like hell. So yeah, the angst would have been greater with this track if it had been the only one. Right now it just feels like misery piled upon misery.

And agreed on it being OTT on the "torture Bani" front. She's had her realisation, she's apologised, she's accepted she was wrong. At this point it's like punishment for punishment's sake. I read an interview with a producer of another show recently (which was cancelled due to low TRPs), where he said that people used to say to him (of his strong FL): we love how strong she is, but we don't feel bad for her. Like the reason the show wasn't doing as well was because the audience didn't feel bad for the FL, because she wasn't crying and moping around. I feel like that's what the writers here have done; we've gone from ladaku, moo-phat, fiery Bani to one who cries buckets in each episode, just so sections of the audience can feel bad for her. This is why there's this overkill of Bani torture recently, by portraying Veer as her weakness and a tool to hurt her with. It does both Bani and Veer a disservice, frankly, and it isn't fun for the audience to watch either.

Originally posted by: RaniZelda

Agreed with everything but esp the point that this track would have been perfect instead of the moon track. The angst of Veer - who has always felt a connection with her no matter how she behaved with him - forgetting Bani? That would have hurt like hell. So yeah, the angst would have been greater with this track if it had been the only one. Right now it just feels like misery piled upon misery.

And agreed on it being OTT on the "torture Bani" front. She's had her realisation, she's apologised, she's accepted she was wrong. At this point it's like punishment for punishment's sake. I read an interview with a producer of another show recently (which was cancelled due to low TRPs), where he said that people used to say to him (of his strong FL): we love how strong she is, but we don't feel bad for her. Like the reason the show wasn't doing as well was because the audience didn't feel bad for the FL, because she wasn't crying and moping around. I feel like that's what the writers here have done; we've gone from ladaku, moo-phat, fiery Bani to one who cries buckets in each episode, just so sections of the audience can feel bad for her. This is why there's this overkill of Bani torture recently, by portraying Veer as her weakness and a tool to hurt her with. It does both Bani and Veer a disservice, frankly, and it isn't fun for the audience to watch either.

It's like there was a buy one get one free track on misery tracks and they scooped them right up 🤔 the potential this track would have had adds to my misery.

Oh my god I agree until and unless the FL doesn't cry and breakdown and be helpless then its not a punishment. How about we have a FL that is like yeah I messed up bad- yeah I get it but I am going to fight fire with fire and not sit and mope about it for days. To be fair one of the things that I liked about Bani was she was on the surface ice and she show only showed her emotions when things were really bad. This track is really bad so I get the emotions- but coming on the back of moon-gate where we saw said emotions- is this necessary again? That monologue she had with Veer she cried buckets. I would rather not have anymore- at this rate the ocean she drank is going to come back out 😆