Something I feel about this track

Acha okay.

So, I agree that I feel they're ruining Veer's character by making him constantly hypnotized and all that shit. I'm not a huge fan of this stupid track either.

But, I kind of feel that Bani has to get this. For half of the show, Bani did the exact same thing to Veer. Yahi sabh dhutkarna, saying Veer really makes her feel sick and how much she hates and how he irritates her and all. Jabse she met Veer, she's done exactly this while Veer was madly in love with her.

Like this seems well earned karma to Bani. I genuinely belief in the fact ki agar someone gives you all their love, in a true sense without any wrong intentions, you have to respect that feeling someone has for you. Regardless of whether you love them or not, it is inhuman to insult how much they feel for you. No one has the right to insult someone's feelings for you no matter how much you hate them. Agar woh sach mein tumse pyaar kare, you are expected to at least give them that respect for being so true in their feelings for you.

Bani had gone far in her time when Veer was so much in love with her. Ek aansu nahi, ek complain nahi, ek baar bhi uspe gussa nahi kiya. He endured all of it with a smile. Bani's crying might give people the emotional part but I didn't feel that melting inside my heart that Bani was sad. Come on, Bro. Do you know what you did while the guy was all heads over heels for you and was willing to go to any lengths for you? Uske comparison mein Bani hasn't done much. Bani ke pyaar ki intesity hi itni nahi hai. Just my opinion. The intensity that Veer had.

It reminds of the line from the song "Zakhm maine diye usko kitne magar uske hothon pe uff tak na aayi" Veer lived those lines so well. Pyaar mein jo bhi sitam Bani ne uspe kiye, he just took it on with a smile. (What can I say, please chappal mat marna. I am a hopeless romantic at that) That is why I like Veer so much. Veer ke isi baat pe mera dil aa jata hai uspe. But Bani doesn't give me the same feel.

Veer didn't even do half the stuff that Bani did to him. Bani wasn't even hypnotized or anything but still said all those things in complete consciousness. Veer didn't show it par jitna dard Bani ko ho raha hai usse kuch 100 times zyaada Veer ko hua hoga but he didn't cry like her. He made her feel his feelings for her. Isiliye Veer mera hero hai. Even now.

Like they go round and round hypnotizing Veer and messing with his character build up. Theek hai tumhari story, tumhari marzi humse writers konsa puchte hai?

But this seems like a well earned karma for Bani. That's why Bani's crying isn't actually hitting my emotional side. What goes around come around.

Please don't hate me for this but this what I feel.

Abh tum sabh batao. What do you feel?

You know episode dekhte waqt mere dimag mein bhi yehi aaya k is not it the samething Bani used to do with Veer? Woh bhi aise hi thukrati thi, irritated hoti, bohat kuch bolti thi, dil pe chot pauchati thi, bohat insult kia.. But inn sab k baad bhi Veer never complained.. He just kept hope and believe on his love. The line u said "Zakhm maine diye usko itne, uske muh pe uff tak na aayi" yeh like totally Veer pe jaata hai. As If uss k liye hi likha gaya ho. Woh uss episode mein bhi play hua tha.. He was just smiling and letting her go.. Itna pyaar koi kaise kar sakta hai until u r not Veeranshu Singhania ❤️

Exactly...that's is one of my main like really main points of loving veer. The craziness in his love, the way he just drowns himself in bani. Because grey shaded toh aaj kal harr dusra hero hai!!

But my issue is that i live in "could have been's"😂

Had the story progressed the way it should have, the intensity in bani's love would have exceeded veer's. It would have come slowly jaise dheere dheere chingari jalti hai but god, it would have turned into a fireball. Because if aakesh died with a smile on his face from naageshwari's hand. Naageshwari also killed herself for her apparent love for hriday. And that is saying something, she killed herself for love that wasn't even real!!

Coming to the point of karma, i agree with the fact that even if you don't love the other person you should respect the his/her emotions and the courage it took to own that emotion. But kya karre, the crazy romantic in me, hates when vani are seperated. I hated when bani was rude to veeranshu esp. when he was emotional and now i hate this.

And then there is this fact ki show over ho rha hai..and all i want are some very amazing very normal vani scenes!!

But love isn't about point-scoring, right? Tit for tat, she hurt me so me hurting her is justified?

Veer would never do this to Bani in his right mind, and that is what rankles most about this situation. If, in his right mind, Veer turned around and said to Bani "I'm hurt at the way you treated me, so I am done with you" - then perhaps that would be justified (in a situation where Bani wants his love and he is no longer willing to give it).

This isn't about Bani getting her "just desserts" for how she mistreated Veer, because Veer. Would. Never. Do. This. This is the writers using the stick of magic/memory loss to punish Bani for something Veer would never, ever punish her for. Bani doesn't deserve to be punished now for something her husband has already forgiven her for, long ago, and that too only because of some external manipulation. That isn't justice, it's torture.

I am actually not hating veer like some people who are claiming veer is become like other male lead and bla bla..he is doing all this cause he is in someone else influence.. Real veer isn’t like this..and It's not veer who is hurting and hating bani..it's the influence and yeah bani somehow did the same in her real state of mind..and veer won her by tolerating all her hate and misbehavior.. So It's bani's time to prove her love like veer proved his..but my prblm is their executions.. Like chandni track they could show veer's inner battle Between hypnotized and real veer and they could show veer's sry state towards bani more emotional way rather they just made him so weak after coming from moon who ignoring bani and get beating by random goons without even being able to rais a hand Against them and now in angel track he forget bani ok but why they need to show he is pushing her or yelling at her like this..veer is a bad boy but he isn’t disrespectful towards woman..though he forget her he could be respectful towards her..last time markat influence him to hate bani but this time why the same? He forget her but why he is hating her again? Main point is all this track could be better if they could execute them more logically and sensibly..these track could be work then..

Originally posted by: RaniZelda

But love isn't about point-scoring, right? Tit for tat, she hurt me so me hurting her is justified?

Veer would never do this to Bani in his right mind, and that is what rankles most about this situation. If, in his right mind, Veer turned around and said to Bani "I'm hurt at the way you treated me, so I am done with you" - then perhaps that would be justified (in a situation where Bani wants his love and he is no longer willing to give it).

This isn't about Bani getting her "just desserts" for how she mistreated Veer, because Veer. Would. Never. Do. This. This is the writers using the stick of magic/memory loss to punish Bani for something Veer would never, ever punish her for. Bani doesn't deserve to be punished now for something her husband has already forgiven her for, long ago, and that too only because of some external manipulation. That isn't justice, it's torture.

Now that i think from a slightly different pov,

What exactly does bani need to punished for, in context to veer i mean. At the end of the day, she is also human or atleast someone with human emotions. If we go by the show, during the time she hated veer, she thought he was a bad man, who did not respect women was involved in illegal stuff. If tomorrow a criminal, potential criminal comes up to me and says that he loves me and wants me. Going back on my own words, I as person, i think, iwould not be able to very honestly respect his emotions and not talk rudely to him.

For one sec, let's forget veer's side of the story. For someone who only knows bani's part would find her reactions very normal and i think would even get angry at her for falling for veer.

And that's what i think veer understood from the very beginning and that's why he very rarely took bani's words to heart. Instead he took time to change her opinion and work towards their relationship.

Originally posted by: forest_foliage

This is the writers' way of giving us the old sassy Veeranshu Singhania !

🤔 But this is the thing that annoys me. Our OG sassy Veer was never like this. Even at his sassiest, he never treated Bani like the help, or told her again and again that she meant nothing to him. IDK who on the writing staff thinks this is what people wanted when they asked for the old Veer back.

Speaking only for myself, watching Veer misbehave in this way, at this point in their story, doesn't make me think "cool, now Bani's getting a taste of her own medicine". Maybe there was a time, when she was still antagonistic towards him, for this kind of tit for tat behaviour. But they've moved so far beyond that at this point, it makes it hard to bear. Just last week the real Veer was telling her how desperately and madly he loves her, so even under the influence of magic (and thank God there is at least that small relief), this treatment feels misplaced and misjudged. And again, knowing that Veer would never do this makes the whole thing feel so manipulative, calculated to torture the FL in ways audiences apparently love (so they can empathise with a crying FL), like a puppet master pulling the strings.

Originally posted by: Dmad

Now that i think from a slightly different pov,

What exactly does bani need to punished for, in context to veer i mean. At the end of the day, she is also human or atleast someone with human emotions. If we go by the show, during the time she hated veer, she thought he was a bad man, who did not respect women was involved in illegal stuff. If tomorrow a criminal, potential criminal comes up to me and says that he loves me and wants me. Going back on my own words, I as person, i think, iwould not be able to very honestly respect his emotions and not talk rudely to him.

For one sec, let's forget veer's side of the story. For someone who only knows bani's part would find her reactions very normal and i think would even get angry at her for falling for veer.

And that's what i think veer understood from the very beginning and that's why he very rarely took bani's words to heart. Instead he took time to change her opinion and work towards their relationship.

I agree with this so much. Sometimes I feel we want to project our own feelings of what we think Bani "deserves" for the way she behaved with Veer onto him, but when Veer himself has never expressed that kind of intention, what 'we want' as an audience is kind of moot, right? Veer has understood Bani's reactions in a way few others have, and that makes him different, but it's also why Bani ultimately did fall in love with him, because he gave her nothing but love.

Originally posted by: Dmad

Now that i think from a slightly different pov,

What exactly does bani need to punished for, in context to veer i mean. At the end of the day, she is also human or atleast someone with human emotions. If we go by the show, during the time she hated veer, she thought he was a bad man, who did not respect women was involved in illegal stuff. If tomorrow a criminal, potential criminal comes up to me and says that he loves me and wants me. Going back on my own words, I as person, i think, iwould not be able to very honestly respect his emotions and not talk rudely to him.

For one sec, let's forget veer's side of the story. For someone who only knows bani's part would find her reactions very normal and i think would even get angry at her for falling for veer.

And that's what i think veer understood from the very beginning and that's why he very rarely took bani's words to heart. Instead he took time to change her opinion and work towards their relationship.

I don't speak of any other side but his love. Tum literally doubt kar rahe ho ki woh tumhare kya feel karta jab ki tumhare saamne usne apni jaan tumhare naam kardi? What kind of blindness is that?

Its about how Bani never respected that Veer was in love with her. Obviously, Bani didn't love him. Okay, got it. Agar woh criminal bhi hua toh no one gave the right to her to disrespect how much he loved her. She could have given it back without disrespecting how much he loved her.

Her hatred for him because she presumed he was a potential criminal is correct but still it isn't right to disrespect how much someone loves him.

I'm not saying Veer needed to do this personally. Right that he's hypnotized or else he would never do this. I know this and believe this. Because he loves her madly, he wouldn't even think of doing this to her.

I'm just putting the point on what is exactly Bani's state. Bani ko pata that Veer uspe jaan chidakta hai? Kitna aur cheekh cheekh ke kehta ki woh usse pyaar karta hai?

I'm not speaking about Veer doing this at all. No, yaar. Mujhe bhi pata Veer nohot pyaar karta hai.

Of course veer is hero and will remain hero. My likeness for him is still same. Writers are trying their level best to ruin his character but for me Veer is still best male character on itv.

This track has potential but as its repetitive that's why not liking it. If we compare Vani than yeah veer is more stronger as he handled all those hateful gestures of bani with smile. But bani itney sy main hi roney lagi. Though he is not real veer. Real veer can never hurt her. Yeah we can say this track as role reversal. Veer had passed through a lot and now bani has to pass from this. She has to handle rude behavior of veer which is not long lasting and veer has again started falling for her.

Kaash wo moon trip wala track na hua hota toh shayd yeh track interesting lagta.