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Posted: 15 years ago
#41
U said honest comparision and u went on and on to bash Shankar and praise Shaan...thats not honest comp....
Actually in my opinion this is a neat post and don't see any bashing at all
It was a fair comparison, between captains and the team members and after a long time enjoyed reading all the good comments on this thread
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Posted: 15 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: xobile

@Navaneeta

Lovely post, navaneeta ji!

But I disagree with you on three points. I hope you don't mind me explaining why...

1. Shaan's voice did seem strained at the high notes in a couple of performances. He had amaaazing high notes in his performances of Behti Hawa Sa Tha Woh and Suno Na (wow. just wow.) But we should remember those couple of performances with bad high notes, too (especially the Khushboo hoon main song, where he did seem strained)

2. Classical training is not a must for a composer - Anu Malik and O P Nayyar were not classically trained and they are two of the most successful music directors in Hindi film music. 😃

3. Shaan is not a more gifted singer than Shankar - the ability to sing like Shankar Mahadevan is a gift! I don't think you can develop that talent by JUST practising. Yes, Shaan has a great voice quality, but we can't say that one is a gift and the other is only riyaaz.

But I wholly agree with your main point which is that we shouldn't compare apples and oranges! 👍🏼 Everyone has their forte and they should be compared within that genre, not across genres. But I do think Shaan could improve his high notes (that is within his genre after all) - I have noticed a HUGE improvement in his live performances over the years, and I am sure he will improve even further! 😊

Jeetenge SHAAN Se!

Hmmm nice post ....
I agree with you mostly ....
1. I would download and re-listen 'Khusboo Hoon Mein' ... It was simply fantabulous when I listened .... still I would re-listen to chk on high notes .... I didn't found it though maybe as the song was too much emotion filled so I missed high notes part ...
2. Fully agree .. not a must ... I mean to say again to compose all genre of music, that's a must and added advantage for any composer ... so most of the composers are usually classically knowledgeable .. whereas .. not most of the singers are so much expert in live classical improvisation .. not in the fixed classical notes .. I'm talking of live classical improvisation ....⭐️
3. Sure shot Shankar M is definitely gifted ... otherwise in every nukkad we could have got a Shankar M .... he is gifted as with the same training (he himself told about his rigorous trainnig in a interview) everyone cannot be Shankar M ... I was talking about the silky voice and tone quality of Shaan ... which has to be gifted, and you cannot acquire that with any amount of Riyaaz .... singing capability -wise both are gifted ... I told Shaan is a bit ahead on the voice quality gift .... not on singing capability ...... 😳
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Posted: 15 years ago
#43
Shankar Mahadevan's team should win. Why? Because he deserves to win.

He has been a better captain. His team is weaker, than some of even the eliminated teams, but he still got them to the Finals. How? By singing himself, and leading his team to the Finals. He's the best captain because he's done the most for his team to win.

And with all this hard work done by Shankar Mahadevan getting his team this far, he deserves to go all the way.

Keep singing Shankar Mahadevanji! Ap Hindustan ki naak hai!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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And that was not an honest post. That was more like

bash Shankar a lot, praise him a little. And then praise Shaan a lot, and bash him a little. 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Shaan had a strong team so he got to the Finals. Shankar had a weaker team yet was able to take them to the Finals. That's the difference. Shankar has done as well with a weaker team around him.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@ ssk

Don't think Shankar had a bad team to start with. As I've said, Shaan had an advantage in the form on Neeti. But in the males, Shankar had no disadvantage. If anything, he had the winner of a recent talent show (Jo Jeeta Wohi Superstar, Rahul Vaidya) and Sharib (one of the very few reality show contestants who topped the charts in 2009 with their film music). Both Rahul and Sharib have displayed their versatility and classical training in previous shows. Even Sanjeev had a great start, winning SOD.

But Shankar's team has proved weak in your own words in his show.

Weak teams don't deserve to win.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: xobile

@ ssk

Don't think Shankar had a bad team to start with. As I've said, Shaan had an advantage in the form on Neeti. But in the males, Shankar had no disadvantage. If anything, he had the winner of a recent talent show (Jo Jeeta Wohi Superstar, Rahul Vaidya) and Sharib (one of the very few reality show contestants who topped the charts in 2009 with their film music). Both Rahul and Sharib have displayed their versatility and classical training in previous shows. Even Sanjeev had a great start, winning SOD.

But Shankar's team has proved weak in your own words in his show.

Weak teams don't deserve to win.



Rahul and Sharib are good. But the other 2 aren't really. Shaan has at least 3 good singers. Their "new guys" are about the same. But Rahu/Sharib/Netti <<<< Harshit/Debojit/Anwesha no doubt.

And I meant Shankar's team is weak compared to Shaan's.

But even with a clearly weaker team, Shankar has had as much success. Why? Because of his own hard work. And though Shankar's team is weak, he is so great that he has overcome that, and imo deserves to win for this.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ssk13809



Rahul and Sharib are good. But the other 2 aren't really. Shaan has at least 3 good singers. Their "new guys" are about the same. But Rahu/Sharib/Netti <<<< Harshit/Debojit/Anwesha no doubt.

And I meant Shankar's team is weak compared to Shaan's.

But even with a clearly weaker team, Shankar has had as much success. Why? Because of his own hard work. And though Shankar's team is weak, he is so great that he has overcome that, and imo deserves to win for this.



Well I would argue that Shaan has brought his team to the finals. And he managed to bring out the best from Harshit, Debo and Shadab, who are more or less at par with Shankar's guys (imho). Not only did Shaan bring his team to the finals, he even did their careers a service!

But yh, continue supporting Shankar's team - he is a great singer! I will continue supporting Shaan's team because of all the reasons I have laid out.

Jeetenge SHAAN Se!
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Posted: 15 years ago
#49
Yeah I love Shaan's team too.

From the start I have supporting Himesh, Shaan, Shankar, and Shreay's teams. For me, the best result was that all 4 of them went to the semi-finals. And I was really excited about that. Now it's just a matter of who takes it all, and I would be fine with either of these 4 winning.

So best of luck to both teams
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Posted: 15 years ago
#50
If you compare the teams Shakar's team is more accomplised than Shaan's. Consider Shankar vs Shaan, Neeti(already singing with ARRahman) vs Anwesha, Sharib vs Harshit, Rahul vs Debojit(both have done good here winning competitions but rahul won against him in JJWS).
Considering all this Shankar's team is better though I would add Anwesha is better in females.
Now, if people are feeling Shaan had a better team then its his captaincy that instilled confidence in his team members to perform better n improve. They have been given chance to present their talent and with equality. Though Shankar's captaincy was equally good with song selection medley part
Its not that any of them does not deserve to be in finals but finally a team wins and not just the captain.
The credit and contribution to Shankar's being in final will go to Shankar and to certain extent Rahul.
Whose team members might be able to proudly say I won the MKMM show (wherein many winners of other shows participated) ... just listen to my songs there how talented I am or how well I contributed...ring of truth

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