Round 4: Shreya Ghosal - Page 4

Originally posted by: shivani003

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I cant believe u just said that yaar. Singers put so much khoon paseena into their renditions and an amateur is being nominated JUST FOR FUN???!!!?!??!

Trust me its not a cheesy cliche when nominees say "Its an honour to at least receive a nomination".

A nomination is not a minor thing. It makes a difference to their ROZI ROTI.... (A good e.g. would be A.R Rehman at the oscars)

(Although I do admit that nowadays there are some really retarded nominations e.g. Farhan for Rock On..... ummmm lets not even go there) It would certainly be nice if there would be nominations for singers as well as actors who actually, truly deserve it. At this rate, there should be a jury for appointing the jury.

Okay now you are taking things out of context. I said "It's just a nomination" in response to brahmabull comparing my nomination comments to the actual award by saying Himesh's could've been for "fun" too. Though Himesh did not just get nominated, he won.

But back to the point. Compared to the award winner, it's not much. Nonetheless, it's an achievement and lets you know you are still singing well!

I'd also like to add getting nominated once is 1 thing. But getting consistently nominated? That's a whole different story.


I think if you can consistently get nominated for these awards, you are an elite singer.

So in that sense, they mean a lot in evaluating how good a singer is without your own opinion.


So like shivani mentoined, there are always these odd nominations Faran, or Aamir, but they are not going to get consistently nominated. But odd nominations happen. They just do. However, odd winners don't.

@SSK

Yaar aap baat kahan se kahan le jaate ho.
There is no doubt that winning is more important than nominating.
Mujhe bas ek sawaal ka jawaab do:
Will you nominate 'Satrangi Re' or 'Aati Kya Khandala'?

Originally posted by: brahmabul

@SSK

Yaar aap baat kahan se kahan le jaate ho.
There is no doubt that winning is more important than nominating.
Mujhe bas ek sawaal ka jawaab do:
Will you nominate 'Satrangi Re' or 'Aati Kya Khandala'?

In most occasions Satrangi Re. Actually, me personally, always Satrangi Re. Notheless, I can see where the other side is coming from, there could be times when you just want to do something new and nominate something else.


But brahmabul, let me let you know that you are taking this debate and arguing about "nominations" and not "winners". They are 2 total different subjects and proving a point about 1 doesn't prove anything about another.

Originally posted by: ssk13809

In most occasions Satrangi Re. Actually, me personally, always Satrangi Re. Notheless, I can see where the other side is coming from, there could be times when you just want to do something new and nominate something else.


But brahmabul, let me let you know that you are taking this debate and arguing about "nominations" and not "winners". They are 2 total different subjects and proving a point about 1 doesn't prove anything about another.

No boss these are not two different subjects. Jeetne ke liye pehle nominate hona zaroori hain. Winner declare hone se pehle yeh bataya jaata hain ki nominate kaun huya hain.
Chalo atleast aap personally yeh maante ho ki Satrangi Re was better than Aati Kya Khandala. Par aapne kaha most occasions, mere liye woh 'most' nahin 'every' hoga.
Anyways I'll carry forward the discussion. Have to leave for urgent work now.

@SSK
I would just like to tell you my POV why Aamir got nominated, which I know you won't agree.
Aati Kya Khandala was way more popular song than Satrangi Re in 1998. Now its very obvious that Aamir Khan is having lot more fan following than Sonu Nigam, since Aamir is an actor. Lets say Aamir has 5 lakh fans compared with Sonu's 1 lakh. Now when you nominate Aamir Khan it is very obvious his fans will eagerly wait for that award which will add to its TRP. If even half of Aamir's fan watch which will be around 2.5 lakhs even then the figure will be more than Sonu's fan. Aamir has a much more glamour quotient than Sonu Nigam. And if that song was so popular then why didn't Alka ji get nominated for it? Best playback ke liye singing aur popularity dono ka combination hona chahiye.

And one more thing I would like to re-iterate nomination and filmfare are not two different subjects. According to you nominating Aamir was fun but its not a big deal since he didn't win it. When I say that in the same fun Filmfare gave award to HR also, u said that he didn't get nominated but he also won. Let me say again jeetne ke liye pehle nominate hona zaroori hain. So may be Himesh's winning was not fun but then I can say his nomination was fun.

Originally posted by: brahmabul

@SSK
I would just like to tell you my POV why Aamir got nominated, which I know you won't agree.
Aati Kya Khandala was way more popular song than Satrangi Re in 1998. Now its very obvious that Aamir Khan is having lot more fan following than Sonu Nigam, since Aamir is an actor. Lets say Aamir has 5 lakh fans compared with Sonu's 1 lakh. Now when you nominate Aamir Khan it is very obvious his fans will eagerly wait for that award which will add to its TRP. If even half of Aamir's fan watch which will be around 2.5 lakhs even then the figure will be more than Sonu's fan. Aamir has a much more glamour quotient than Sonu Nigam. And if that song was so popular then why didn't Alka ji get nominated for it? Best playback ke liye singing aur popularity dono ka combination hona chahiye.

And one more thing I would like to re-iterate nomination and filmfare are not two different subjects. According to you nominating Aamir was fun but its not a big deal since he didn't win it. When I say that in the same fun Filmfare gave award to HR also, u said that he didn't get nominated but he also won. Let me say again jeetne ke liye pehle nominate hona zaroori hain. So may be Himesh's winning was not fun but then I can say his nomination was fun.

I am very surprised that you are laughing at what I said. Well since you have given me some examples, let me give you one now.

Till now how many times do you think that Indians have watched Oscars? They are shown every year on Star movies. Only handful of people watch it. But every Indian, every News Channel was hooked to the TV when Lagaan got nominated. Every Indian waited with bated breath to see AR Rahman walk up that stage to receive Oscar. Do you think Indians watch Oscars every year. NEVER.
Was AR Rahman nominated for Best Actor or Best Film? NO. He was nominated for best music score but still people watched it. Don't you think the TV channel's TRP went up that day. Oh yes sure it did. Because our favourite got nominated.

I gave you the same theory about Aamir Khan. Dude a fan will always want his favourite to win. Be it be best actor or be it be best male playback. You mean to say you will not want to see your favourite Himesh to win a Best Actor award. I am sorry then you should not call yourself a fan.

Himesh's nominatoin was not for fun because he won it. What I meant for "fun" is he just got nominated for a change

Going by what you are saying is nomination can be fun but that nomination turns into seriousness if that nominee wins an award. Waah mere Cheeteh. Kaamal ke hain aapke funde.

Now coming to your basketball theory. What an absurd
example you have given. I will only say one line. SSK BRO, AWARDS ARE NOT PLAYOFFS THEY ARE THE FINALE WHERE ONLY BEST SHOULD BE CHOSEN

Crazy theories these days....

Originally posted by: brahmabul

I am very surprised that you are laughing at what I said. Well since you have given me some examples, let me give you one now.

Till now how many times do you think that Indians have watched Oscars? They are shown every year on Star movies. Only handful of people watch it. But every Indian, every News Channel was hooked to the TV when Lagaan got nominated. Every Indian waited with bated breath to see AR Rahman walk up that stage to receive Oscar. Do you think Indians watch Oscars every year. NEVER.
Was AR Rahman nominated for Best Actor or Best Film? NO. He was nominated for best music score but still people watched it. Don't you think the TV channel's TRP went up that day. Oh yes sure it did. Because our favourite got nominated.

I gave you the same theory about Aamir Khan. Dude a fan will always want his favourite to win. Be it be best actor or be it be best male playback. You mean to say you will not want to see your favourite Himesh to win a Best Actor award. I am sorry then you should not call yourself a fan.

Himesh's nominatoin was not for fun because he won it. What I meant for "fun" is he just got nominated for a change

Going by what you are saying is nomination can be fun but that nomination turns into seriousness if that nominee wins an award. Waah mere Cheeteh. Kaamal ke hain aapke funde.

Now coming to your basketball theory. What an absurd
example you have given. I will only say one line. SSK BRO, AWARDS ARE NOT PLAYOFFS THEY ARE THE FINALE WHERE ONLY BEST SHOULD BE CHOSEN

Crazy theories these days....

Horrible analogies!!!

1. Aamir Khan's Lagaan was nominated for Movie of the Year. One of the most awaited and looked forward to awards. Of course they would watch that. Like I said, playback singing is relatively unimportant in front of the movie and best actor awards. I can't believe I actually have to explain this.

2. And 😆 at the Oscar example. Are you being serious right now? AR Rahman was nominated for best music in hollywood. That is quite an accomplishment internationally. It's the same reason people in India really were looking at that Ice Skating Youtube link posted here. Because their music was being recognized internationally. That's why the ratings were so high. It's an international achievement.


Are you denying the obvious? Tell me, which household is going to think like this.


"I wasn't going to watch the award show, but after I found out Aamir Khan is being nominated for playback singer, I'll watch it"

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Whats worse, is he was also nominated for Actor of the year. So the "Aamir Khan" fans were already planning on watching it if it was just for nominations. No Aamir Khan fan is going to say, "Hey even though he is nominated for actor of the year, I'm not watching it, but if he is nominated for playback singer of the year, I'm watching it"
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One of the most absurd things I've ever heard on IF. Where do you come up with this stuff?



And what you said is not what I meant about nominations & awards. Some nominations could be bad nominations. Just like sometimes the judges/gurus/masters select not so good dancers/singers to be on the Top 12. However, the WINNER is always considered a good dancer/singer, because he had to actually WIN and not just get nominated. It's a total different story .And a lot tougher to achieve.

A strong nomination (or one capable of winning) doesn't turn into "seriousness". It was always serious. And these joke nominations happen ONCE IN A WHILE. But most are already serious. And the winning nomination is without a doubt serious from the start.

Just like the WINNER of the NBA Playoffs was a great team all along. Or the WINNER of the dancing/singing contest was a great dancer/singer all along. They were never "joke nominations"



In summary, nominations and awards winners have only little in common. You need to be nominated to win true. But the winner at least was a very good nomination, and overall, a very good performer automatically because he won and had to go through a lot more to win it.

Theek hain ssk bhai. Tum bhi sahi apni jagah aur main bhi sahi apni jagah. Baat khatam.

Mera vaise bhi aaj bilkul mann nahin hain kisi se debate karne ka. I am really happy today because of Sachin Tendulkar's 200. I want to savor the moment.