Please answer my QUestion!!!!!!

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hey people a single question is harassing ma mind from many days …….hope to get a correct and convincing answer from you………

Do you really think Rajveer was really selfish?

Let's start recalling some incidents!!!!!

1) Rajveer rejected nirmal……….only becoz sanjay wanted it and not rajveer….but still kranti blamed him……..any frnd would do such a thing for his childhood frnd

2) Rajveer intentionally lost the case of Prem babu………just becoz he wanted to prove himself to the britishers that too becoz his father wanted to become rai bahadur ……

3) Rajveer again stood against kranti during sohan tau's case………becoz he wanted britishers to give his father rai bahaduri!!!!!!!!

Things happened to kranti after that was indirectly related to rajveer otherwise all wrong deeds were done by her maami and budhdha's family to harass her……..

Everytime rajveer hurt kranti not for his sake but for his fathers sake……he did everything for his family and not for his own sake………rajveer was actually not that selfish……..after all every son would like to do anything for his family …..at that time he will not think of a girl whom he has just met!!!!!

And rajveer's father was never in favour of krantikari's and as a result even rajveer grew up with the same thought!!!!!!!!!

Was RAJVEER REALLY SELFISH…as kranti thinks of him???????????

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Bhawna1004 thumbnail
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Posted: 16 years ago
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yaar chauveen what a post
you know what we have discussed all these things long ago i think when krantii got married to that budhaa .
but after that nobody arise this question.
well you know what because of these questions we were parted in two camps i.e. anti raj and pro raj.
and i was always in pro raj camp.
so this time i am again in favor of my raj.
and i believe he is 90% correct.
10% for his deliberate pangas which he has taken with krantii.
haan krantii bhi kam nahi hai.
oh thanks again for this beautiful post.
bahut dino baad aisa kuch mila hai.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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in Bhagwat gita there is a line wich says wen you come across a person wid a different thought n attitude 2wards u..without knowing it d picture of dat person gets fixed in ur mind..u start getting a feeling of being getting attentive 2wards dat person....n from dat attention takes place jealousy...anger..arrogance...ego....n last but not d least the possesiveness to win over dat person...😉👍🏼
😉dear Raj also fell into this trap of heart...he was never selfish..but from london he learnt to just think bout those people who r close to u...other than else no one...
it was kranti first to whom he got attracted...n kranti drew his attensive...irrespective of d fact dat kranti is 2 ordinary to his environment..
kranti was extraordinary amongst d ordinary...so Raj's attention fell on her...
Kranti was born amongst kk n was brought up among mama-mami....there she learnt dat it is easy 2 love a person who loves u..but its tough to love a person who hates u....
for Raj everything is related to his family..outside dat res.he doesnt ca.but for kranti his world is for d outsiders...😳
dats d reason why kranti never liked or supported raj..
for raj it was a big thrush wen he got to see a girl for d first time avoiding n totally ignoring him n taking him as granted...remember Bhagwat gita..a difference of attitude...😛😉
raj was not selfish...😛
But d touch of first love made him totally wacko...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: bhawna_dhunna

yaar chauveen what a post
you know what we have discussed all these things long ago i think when krantii got married to that budhaa .
but after that nobody arise this question.
well you know what because of these questions we were parted in two camps i.e. anti raj and pro raj.
and i was always in pro raj camp.
so this time i am again in favor of my raj.
and i believe he is 90% correct.
10% for his deliberate pangas which he has taken with krantii.
haan krantii bhi kam nahi hai.
oh thanks again for this beautiful post.
bahut dino baad aisa kuch mila hai.

exactly i only posted such a post long ago..after all long time such a beautiful post...😛😛
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Oh its a good discussion indeed👏...we can start the Pro-Raj camp vs Anti-Raj camp again through this post😉😆😆
I never considered Raj selfish😳..Raj rejected Nirmal's proposal for Sanjay because he din't like Nirmal's mother and thought she was a manipulative woman..Raj was definitely right here😉..Later Sanjay falling in love with Nirmal was an altogether different situation😳..so I never understood why Kranti blamed Raj there when it was Sanjay's decision to go as the driver with Raj😆😕
Coming to Prem-Babu and Sohan tauji's case,as a professional lawyer his duty was to fight the case in favour of the britishers,so the question of positive or negative does not even arise here😊...as a lawyer he was very practical and wanted to turn each nad every case in favour of the britishers to win their trust and also to win the RB-Ship for his father...Who doesn't want success in life ??..Who doesn't want to see his father's glory ??...Raj too wanted these two things..his own success and his father's glory...so I don't consider him selfish here at all😳
Yes there mayb a debate that he actually choosed the wrong path to achieve success..but in those times many Indians were against Krantikaris..not many supported their way of using violence to achieve freedom..so Raj's family was also one of them😃..
Raj was never a selfish or a negative character...he was just against the Krantikaris because he hated violence and believed that only Britishers can bring around a change in India...
Yes sometimes he did wanted ot settle personal scores with Kranti..but here I completely agree with Chand👏..two people of opposite nature always try to outshine each other and eventually end up falling for each other😉😳
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Posted: 16 years ago
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well first its a very nice toip dear, n for its very dificult to say wther he is selfish ot not coz if we saw him as a son i can say yaa may be somethime he got selfish , but is we saw him as a lawyer, or a human being i dont think so he si coz any body can do rthe sam in dat sitution . so basicaly its very difficult to copme to one conculion, actualyy jyo is rite we can do a long endless debut on that
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06

I never considered Raj selfish😳..Raj rejected Nirmal's proposal for Sanjay because he din't like Nirmal's mother and thought she was a manipulative woman..Raj was definitely right here😉..Later Sanjay falling in love with Nirmal was an altogether different situation😳..so I never understood why Kranti blamed Raj there when it was Sanjay's decision to go as the driver with Raj😆😕 i think she was more pissed off by his high handed behaviour, in a way raj was luking down on mamaji's family (this is sumthing which i cant understand raj's family maybe better off but they r also illiterate ) and she was all the more irritated by his pro british and anti indian outlook (rem their heated discussion on the dining table)and anyways it was raj who had rejected her sis sanjay had not even seen her so obviously she wud blame him and plz was raj not immature in rejecting nirmal coz of her mother,there was nothing wrong wid nirmal this fact gets vindicated wen sanjay falls for nirmal as soon as he sees her
Coming to Prem-Babu and Sohan tauji's case,as a professional lawyer his duty was to fight the case in favour of the britishers,so the question of positive or negative does not even arise here.( the q does arise here raj was prem babu's lawyer and he had back stabbed them that is unethical right n as for sohan tauji rem wat he told kranti that how will he get sohan tauji treated in jail he said that he will make sure that he is not allowed to take a bath, change clothes etc etc is making any human being subject to such treatment okay ?no matter how diff that person's ideology is from u ..
.Who doesn't want success in life ??..Who doesn't want to see his father's glory ??...😳 i agree that everyone wants success and their father's glory but at the cost of someone's life or property? is that justified that ways u can even justify robbers they do it for their need of money or for their family.is raj that incompetent that he cannot acheive success or his father's glory by fair means ??is it necessary to do underhanded acts ???
Yes there mayb a debate that he actually choosed the wrong path to achieve success..but in those times many Indians were against Krantikaris..not many supported their way of using violence to achieve freedom..so Raj's family was also one of them😃..the q is not abt being against kk , they were bootlicking them for the rai bahaduri. raj has lived abroad for most of his life so how can he decide that kk r bad without even knowing the reasons for their actions dont tell me that he does wat his family tells him they thought that lajjo was a perfect match for him but he thought otherwise ,so mr barrister cud have tried to understand the situation b4 pronouncing them as criminals and starting his dirty campaign against him
Raj was never a selfish or a negative character...he was just against the Krantikaris because he hated violence and believed that only Britishers can bring around a change in India...raj was indeed selfish and has done may wrong acts and yaar even he himself admits the fact so i guess that shud b the end of the discussion lol

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Phew..I finished my Raj defending act finally😕😆..DY I applaud u for putting up some valid points here👏👏..Enjoyed debating a lot after a long time😳
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Good discussion going on. D.Y. nice points and I agree with you. It's ok if R has different idealogies as compared to Kranti but he definitely chose the wrong ways. And that is the reason why he needs to change himself to some extent at least and he himself knows it.

Jyo, the mistake he made was so big that it nearly destroyed someone else's life. What if that Wolf was still alive? 😕

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