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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Savage


Things have become more subjective to me in general than they'd ever been before and given my nature of extracting business out of whatever I do, I find it strangely amusing to yet read your thoughts about the same matter, in a different light, altogether. :)

I agree, for in truth we live out our lives subjectively even if we debate about it objectively, SO I admire the fact that you debate as you live. : )

I am less than half your age, and yet I'd have to say I've found your present mindset a predicament for as long as I had owned it.

I think I can guess why, and you would be right to question it. I fear that much of my current sensibilities arise from the fact that I still hold very romantic notions of how to behave and act. I have not grown out of that fairy tale potential of the world concept that most do somewhere in their twenties. You being the exception, for reasons that you know better than I, have understood much very soon, maybe even too soon.

I was like too touchy about people I spent a considerable amount of time with too, and they were these actors who may have been having the times of their lives whilst I was, well messing around with my head an my hormone, all the same. My call is saner than yours, but not essentially what I'd buy best. I have this really agitating habit of relating myself with characters, and thus propelling myself into a heavy-duty analysis of the same, which continues. But guess, I have disciplined myself a wee bit so it does not disturb me like it did before.

I remember watching this documentary on Himmler, this man that ordered the deaths of millions BUT when he actually watched the execution of one man, he could not take it and was physically sick. There is something about seeing something. It is very vivid but affecting our visceral states too.

I can tell you that I cut myself BUT when you actually see the blood pouring you feel a little sting somewhere in your bones.

In the case of books, it is our ability to imagine things, feel them intrinsically, both the literal and apparent meaning, here.

This isn't
obsession as you call it BUT human nature, so I wouldn't be too aggrieved by it. : )

The world has more pressing issues, I have more pressing issues rather and I have realized and started to practice the institution of treating fiction as fiction is, I'd let it please me but not violate my confines of discipline and reality. The notion is simple and straight. However, I do catch up sophisticated conversations with actors sometimes, but sadly, they are more or less the big-banner-SBS-tamaasha to me, so well, I sternly maintain my head and praise what must be praised and avoid what I have been hooked with and I am quite sure I am making sense. 😆

Kankshita, I would not persuade you otherwise. This is indeed the best course of action. I was trying in earnest to guide people trapped in that whirpool of tamaasha. Who in fact don't want to get out though their fingers look like prunes.

I went from someone who misundertood my friends who watch indian soaps then comment on forums, to becoming like them AS well as being misunderstood. I do not say my way is best BUT that upon my path I am seeking the best.

MJHT is integrally a phase of my life, and not just fiction as I perceive it now. And I keep it in mind to watch it and let every other thought rest, enjoy the quality and smile as much and as hard as I can. Although, I laugh more than I receive a chance to smile, but yes, the reruns are a treat and do not really spare me enough time to muse about who is the best. :)

Wonderful. This is indeed the best route. I encourage you to remain steadfast, never veer starboard nor port as though those stars may beckon you to do so, twinkling in the night's sky BUT trust your compass explicitly, implicitly. With love, Sabah

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I don't know clearly what i am gonna say but after reading your post i felt this urge to type out my thoughts here.

I started watching MJHT on 24 may 2010.Though i caught glimpses of MN before too but i don't know what happened that day,this simple scene of a husband and wife lighting candles together and stealing glances at each other kind of stole my heart.I searched yt watched each and every MN scene. Within a week i was sure that I loved them.As if it was meant to be Nupur was shown dead after a few days.
I cried when I saw Mayank crying.I expected myself to be gloomy for days coz it wasn't the first time I got attached to any fictional character.But to my astonishment I wasn't feeling any resentment.MN were like this beautiful memory etched in my heart.

To be completely honest,yes after Nupur's comeback I felt like killing off the editors and writers especially during the last episodes of MJHT , when my fav couple played by ARTI were not given screenspace ,when Sanaya and Mohit would come on my tv screen when all I wanted wasto see MN,but that feeling is long gone now.This resentment was gone entirely the moment I watched MN having a small moment with their babies...

When I joined this forum,I felt it wierd that whenever any sbs clip would come,I'd be all excited NOT coz I wanted to see ARTI but coz I wanted to see what storyline MN had in upcoming episodes...
I am considered a practical person by most of the people in my life but only I know how crazy and emotional I can get with people I am attached to.I've been totally crazy for actors during my teenage years well I still do😆 but i don't know what it is it with MN that never made me see beyond them,not even at the actors who were playing these roles.

I won't say I'll never love other characters AS MUCH as MN coz i believe that love can't be measured...but yes I am pretty sure that i won't be able to love anyother character THE WAY i have loved MN.

Just like you I wish best for the actors who brought MN into my life. And yes i DO NOT believe that
it is right to disparage other actors in this race of "Who's the best"

I can't believe i have written so much..I hope I am making sense:)It felt nice to see ur post after so long:)

Edited by acAasthamayur - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: acAasthamayur

I don't know clearly what i am gonna say but after reading your post i felt this urge to type out my thoughts here. I am so glad that you shared. As I said, though I can be quite forthright, it is from listening to other views that I begin to learn, grow by pruning. I mean I already know what I think, I need that different viewpoint, that no matter what angle I tilt my head I just can not manage to attain.

I started watching MJHT on 24 may 2010.Though i caught glimpses of MN before too but i don't know what happened that day,this simple scene of a husband and wife lighting candles together and stealing glances at each other kind of stole my heart.I searched yt watched each and every MN scene. Within a week i was sure that I loved them.As if it was meant to be Nupur was shown dead after a few days.
I cried when I saw Mayank crying.I expected myself to be gloomy for days coz it wasn't the first time I got attached to any fictional character.But to my astonishment I wasn't feeling any resentment.MN were like this beautiful memory etched in my heart.
True, it is amazing that despite knowing that it is all a play, we can not help but cry BUT then again we laugh too at their antics. For me it is not merely sympathy upon your part, that understanding of what it is to feel sad, that loss of a loved one BUT rather it is empathy, that despite not actually knowing how it feels to be Mayank we still try, strive to comprehend his loss, NOT to sympathize, for we know Mayank does not exist, so no need to send flowers and hugs BUT rather to experience to the fullest the human condition. Anything that brings movements to our hearts so that they don't become stale, hard or rusted.

To be completely honest,yes after Nupur's comeback I felt like killing off the editors and writers especially during the last episodes of MJHT , when my fav couple played by ARTI were not given screenspace ,when Sanaya and Mohit would come on my tv screen when all I wanted wasto see MN,but that feeling is long gone now.This resentment was gone entirely the moment I watched MN having a small moment with their babies...Truly you have a wonderful attitude, seeking the best in everything. As you say, even if we don't get a lot, or enough of something we love, just a little is sufficient, it is infact everything. For me it is to do with the nature of light. A small amount can destroy, banish all darkness from its sight YET darkness does not have the same ability. For instance, just one smile can restore calm after a long day's harshness and heat.

When I joined this forum,I felt it wierd that whenever any sbs clip would come,I'd be all excited NOT coz I wanted to see ARTI but coz I wanted to see what storyline MN had in upcoming episodes...
I am considered a practical person by most of the people in my life but only I know how crazy and emotional I can get with people I am attached to.I've been totally crazy for actors during my teenage years well I still do😆 but i don't know what it is it with MN that never made me see beyond them,not even at the actors who were playing these roles. Truly you are the most practical person I have met on this forum. There is undoubtedly an element of entrainment in this forum WHICH only a strong heart can resist, I am truly in awe of your ability to do so.

Though I thought myself immune from such influence, I have found myself being swayed by SBS, articles and threads, so that I forgot to glean out the truth of a situation. Most things are spin, even opinions. Most of the time people try to justify the movements of their hearts by adorning it in clever rhetoric BUT the truth is what pinches us and leaves an adverse mark regardless.

I won't say I'll never love other characters AS MUCH as MN coz i believe that love can't be measured...but yes I am pretty sure that i won't be able to love anyother character THE WAY i have loved MN. Though I do not doubt the sincerity of your words NOR that it might actually end up being so, I would proffer this sentiment, never say never. We just do not know what tomorrow may bring.

Just like you I wish best for the actors who brought MN into my life. And yes i DO NOT believe that it is right to disparage other actors in this race of "Who's the best" I can't believe i have written so much..I hope I am making sense:) I am glad that you shared this part of your heart AND I you did. : )

Dil se thanks for being so open and sincere, it was most courageous. God bless you, WIth love, Sabah


Edited by a little faith - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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hi! ive hardly seen you around maybe missed
but this is typical you from what i remember of your earlier posts

and i agree with you wholeheartedly. totally totally. and your effort to put this across

just hope you never get disheartened. 👍🏼
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: np18

hi! ive hardly seen you around maybe missed
but this is typical you from what i remember of your earlier posts

and i agree with you wholeheartedly. totally totally. and your effort to put this across

just hope you never get disheartened. 👍🏼



It has been a long time.

Failure is not blameworthy unlike failing to try, which I say in regards to my attempt as well as the heart of this post.

On a personal note, I will get to your FF soon. With love, Sabah
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Posted: 14 years ago
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"My point is that instead of supporting one another during the difficultly of these darker days, I find an atmosphere of competition. Like a race, the first past the post is deemed the best. If Gunjan, Samrat, Nupur or Mayank behaved as we did, would we, could we regard them as beloveds? That spirit of MJHT of support, of friendship and of family is what I find lacking. "

i agree...its most upsetting...all the fan groups are trying to fight with each other,MJHT was one of the best show on relationships...and after watching it for so long THIS is what we learn from it?its a pity!

It is heart warming to see Sanaya doing so well after MJHT, I wish success for all the rest too. Please do not misunderstand me, I am not asking for you to change your hearts' inclinations and love those whom you never have BUT I am humbly asking that we stop competing and begin supporting even if just by encouragement.
i Agree again...why cant we just be happy for someone elses success...forget being happy people go around bashing,passing snide comments etc..seriously guys is it worth it?...i dont think pulling someone down will push someone else up?

So whether if it is that daily post on your beloved's blog or IF profile, reminding them that you haven't forgotten them or that happiness they brought into your life OR whether you seek to promote their talents by all other means at your disposal, we should be happy to see such enthusiasm and not regard it as competition for it is not about who is best BUT it is about your beloved's happiness and success.

agree once again...love is something i belive comes from youre heart...not by yelling on top of the roof tops...we treat the blogs fan pages etc not as a means for expressing our love but more as a competition...we write stuff beacuse we want to increase the numbers..pointless stuff...like love youre smile...love your shirt..miss you...etc etc...whats the use of writing such stuff when you arent doing from the heart...and seriously...how many people REALLY love these actors...
once they go into the oblivion i know "crazy" fans who have happily forgotten them and have happily gone and stated spamming another actors page...
if we really love someone...pray for thier well being,praise thier work and appricitae it from the heart,pray for thier success

love youre post😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruti.nil


It is heart warming to see Sanaya doing so well after MJHT, I wish success for all the rest too. Please do not misunderstand me, I am not asking for you to change your hearts' inclinations and love those whom you never have BUT I am humbly asking that we stop competing and begin supporting even if just by encouragement.
i Agree again...why cant we just be happy for someone elses success...forget being happy people go around bashing,passing snide comments etc..seriously guys is it worth it?...i dont think pulling someone down will push someone else up?

Wonderfully said and very insightful. True! I have always believed that a person who hurls insults really only disgraces themselves. As the school ground rhyme goes i'm rubber you're glue what ever you say bounces off me and sticks onto you. Sorry for my childish side😳


So whether if it is that daily post on your beloved's blog or IF profile, reminding them that you haven't forgotten them or that happiness they brought into your life OR whether you seek to promote their talents by all other means at your disposal, we should be happy to see such enthusiasm and not regard it as competition for it is not about who is best BUT it is about your beloved's happiness and success.

agree once again...love is something i belive comes from youre heart...not by yelling on top of the roof tops...we treat the blogs fan pages etc not as a means for expressing our love but more as a competition...we write stuff beacuse we want to increase the numbers..pointless stuff...like love youre smile...love your shirt..miss you...etc etc...whats the use of writing such stuff when you arent doing from the heart...and seriously...how many people REALLY love these actors...
once they go into the oblivion i know "crazy" fans who have happily forgotten them and have happily gone and stated spamming another actors page...
if we really love someone...pray for thier well being,praise thier work and appricitae it from the heart,pray for thier success

Shruti, I loved, JUST LOVED this comment BECAUSE I am one of those people who write everyday on IF wall's to increase numbers. 😳 I learned something about myself today. Though I do say with sincerity every thing I post on those walls, if that truth is tainted by my desire to keep their numbers up, then in fact this is a type of competition which I was complaining about.

Shruti, dil se thanks for pointing out my hypocrisy and intend to change for the better.

I am indebted and I say with all my heart, with much sincerity that God grants you much happiness and success upon success.

Once again, thank you. 🤗 With love, Sabah

Edited by a little faith - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@sabah...thanks...he he..but youre really sweet..i dont think youre hypocrite!...its natural to be a bit partial or a bit tainted...
only once i became a viewbie i realised what a pain we can be😆...
actually all this stuff is what my mom taught me...is that giving a "dua"...is the best thing one can do..
and a "baddua" always comes back to you...
im very shy..not very open...and kinda lazy to so i dont comment much...
but i think if we hope for someones success there is nothing like it...all the rankings go out of the window...tv is so temporary..aaj hai kal nahin!..
ive always loved youre topics..youre just so sorted out...
i wish our forum gets sorted out too
cheers
shruti
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Posted: 14 years ago
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all this stuff is what my mom taught me...is that giving a "dua"...is the best thing one can do..
and a "baddua" always comes back to you...
im very shy..not very open...and kinda lazy to so i dont comment much...
but i think if we hope for someones success there is nothing like it...all the rankings go out of the window.

@Shruti,

Even though I was blind to my hypocrisy, I still remained a hypocrite, UNTIL you saved me. 😳 I am indebted and I loved the part above in bold and completely agree. What is one dua accepted by God in comparison to a million love yous on their wall?

Shruti, thank you once again. 😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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sabah thanks a tone for this wonderful post u said it all seriously loved reading ur views and always touch our heart i agree with u totally i think its only ur Love for ur fav without any condition they should get wonderful success there should not be competition as u said its all abt char but those char who created magic and won our heart all they stars were responsible who made them alive on screen making us fall for them whether it would be samrat, gunjan ,mayank or nupur ,all actors played wonderfully and justified those all char that they called by not their name but with their char's name no doubt their wonderful char will always remain in our heart ,we r in their support whether our fav r on screen or not ,commenting on profiles replying in blog its just our love to share what we feel we know whether our love will be sent to them with our comments or will not but with this we feel satisfy to share our heart out there that we r there to support them feels so gr8 getting sanaya back rocking screen and again stealing our heart yes want wonderful success for her def and same goes to mohit our blessings ,love and wishes will be always there for him as well ,abt competition in all this we forget that once we were together in all fun and masti we shared with mjht with whole gang i know ppl have right to share their opinion def healthy discussion should be on any forum but sometimes it takes wrong direction with clash of povs its upsetting u know

abt obsessions i guess sometimes its ppl's highly expressed feelings which they do share and feel for their fav and i guess i respect all's love for their favs whether it would be bollywood actors or tellywood actors u can see obsession of any big mega stars 's fan having we feel so amazed and seriously respect their love they do sometimes diff things for their fav but its only their love for them ( i rem u shared ur one experience and it touched my heart ❤️)for me obsession is just extreme level of love for anything and anyone some can express and some can't thats only difference

we love them share our love thats what we want that our positive vibes and love will reach to them our blessing and wishes reach to them thats all abt it ,love is something beyond all this ,its always joy and pleasure in giving love without expectation 😳
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