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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: anuverma

Awesome post Aarti and very much needed......one accicent..and 4 lives have been lost....if Nupur is dead..so is Samrat,Gunjan and Maynak in a way...and the only thing that can heal them is Forgiveness.....both Maynak and Gunjan have to accept the fact that it was an accident...and hence it was not Samrat's fault....and that over last 3 years he has been punished enough..his guilt..his pain of loosing Nupur and all his friends including his love is quite apprenant....now is the time for healing....and moreso,the kind of person Nupur was..she would not like to see Samrat like this..nor would she like to see Majan so cold and bitter towards him ..And she certainly would not like to see her younger sister hooked with her husband.....

anu hon well said espi the bold .... exactly they have to understand that samrat has punished himself enough for his fault and yes certainly need to be forgiven..
Edited by aarthi.ramani - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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beautiful post

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mayank, gunjan and samrat faced such huge losses at such a young age but they did not ruined thier lives!..all three of them are successful and giving positive messages to the youth around!...and for potraying them in this way CVs also deserve a clap!👏

samrat is asking for!...forgiveness!... bcz it was not his fault!...and now mayank and gunjan will have to realize it!


Edited by mehak03 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: aarthi.ramani


</div>anu hon well said espi the bold ....

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exactly they have to understand that samrat has punished himself enough for his fault and yes certainly need to be forgiven..

Exactely Aarti..Now is the time for healing...and forgiveness....By forgiving Samrat ,they will b able to heal and understand his pain and guilt....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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aarthi brilliant post sweetheart👏👏👏👏👏......first of all big hug 🤗to u for the way u protrayed the sense of loss in all three of them.......it was indeed very touching

i told u just yest am not coming to IF forum but ur topic just forced me to 😆😆

Well I have a slightly diff perspective .........for all three of them- samrat, mayank and gunjan but the most powerful one is that of nupur........she told mayank exactly what everyone else needs to do -is to forget and move on.....its very easy to say but so tough to even imagine.....death is such a painful thing.....d person who dies always finds peace in sum form through death.....at least we assume that....but the person worst affected is the one who is left behind......is int it so very unfair to be left behind???? but when has life ever been fair or is it always fair but we just fail to realize the realities while we are busy taking everything that comes our way for granted........a question one can never easily find an answer to

Mayank........he is going through such a tough phase........samrat and gunjan survived and may be some day they will get together.....but for mayank a meaning of togetherness died the day nupur left him.........i have been the one to believe that when a loved one leaves us, the only way that we can continue to live is to live with the gift of beautiful memories the person has bestowed on u.....its second best to having the person with u .......memories cannot be ever removed as long as u believe in d power they bring.....they r urs to create, cherish and live n u can remember them d way u want to....thankfully god has made one thing that no one can snatch or taint or touch, much as they may try to and he never put a restriction on the same.....yes thats d magic n d power of memories.....the way u percieve them shall decide whether u can continue to live every moment or u shall continue to die every second,....(diff between sec n moment....second is just meaningless time that shall look unbearable when u carry d baggage but moment is personalized time of urs with that sumone special which even d passage of time cant change or tamper with )........thats y i loved nupur's take....she wants to move on coz the only way in such tragic accidents, one can ever heal themselves is by making an attempt to move on.....by moving on do we mean forget the person, forget that they were ever part of our lives, forget that we believed a life which just was so full of mutual love n understanding......no never...... moving on means respect the aspect of love over hatred.........when fate is unfair to us, we are left with two choices--- we can either let fate win by living in denial and hatredness for d injustice belied to us or we can believe in the power of love, a beautiful gift with which the angel in question touched ur life with, we can honor the person's memory by continuing to remember them in happy n sad memories but with a perspective to draw strength from their memories to live on.....death can only be ever physical coz a person who has had the fortune to experience love shall become immortal forever to those whose life he or she has touched , death may spearate us physically from our loved one but no one can separate us from the love we feel for them, when we relive them in our memories........mayank may be on the road to that....but does that mean he can get over nupur.......loss of a loved one is a like a unseen void which much as u may try u can ignore but u can never forget....it stays with u just like ur vital organs, like d breathe u take......of-course d diff lies in how we keep our loved one alive even after death.........that shall decide the victory or defeat fate managed to throw upon u by its act....fair or unfair ....u can still decide.....all u need to do is heal

coming to samrat......am not sure how to judge his penance.....he is paying for a fault or sin which he never committed, yet he so committed it by d sheer ignorance of his confidence n unfortunate presence in d wrong place at wrong time......okie dont come to hit me.......am not blaming samrat.....all i am saying is life when cornered by darkness of death, all that revolves in ur mind is what if, if only's........sure it was a break failure no doubt .......but the only question the one indirectly is being held responsible for a sin he didnt commit is, cud he averted the accident had he gone slow, may be d breaks still wud have failed but d impact cud have been less had the speed of the car been in control........welll yes those r d thots of a heart in delusion wanting to lay d blame on sumone, for d loss they r suffering from....

yep am talking about gunjan......as a sister i can so understand her pain.....frankly i dont know in wat perspective CVs have made her indifferent and cold towards samrat but the prime reason i see for her behavior is samrat reminds her of the what if's n if onlys' , that cud have, may be a just a little bit helped in avoiding her sister's death........if she had forgiven samrat then n there believing in d power of her love n treating it as a freak accident , it deffo wud not have been natural coz everyday she wud have lived to hate samrat......gunjan is in d phase of denial but not without justification....every time she comes across samrat she will think if only samrat had listened to her n slowed down may b d repercussions wud not be so bad...........imagine when u lose the person who is an integral part of ur life n by some twisted game of fate it happens to be dat d reason u lost the person was becoz of d love of ur life.......how shattering it will be for d mind n heart to come to peace.......its like ur soul was d reason ur spirit got destroyed........yes samrat was not responsible directly but who is to tell d heart which is busy living the pain n loneliness n vacuum of a lifetime???, who can make it understand d abject realities of life?????, d person who left or d person who is left behind????? pain is so weird that it makes us visualize d most impossible of d possibilities that a sane mind wud fear from thinking aloud ...yes when in denial "if only" sounds like heaven coz it allows u to stay in d state of denial n lash out n bombard sum 1 with d blame of ur loss.......but does this mean she doesnt love samrat or she has killed their love n d old gunjan d way she claims......no not at all...n d day she realizes this, her pain is only going to double; not only was she suffering from d loss of her sister, she is also suffering from d loss of her love n d hurt she managed to bring to samrat in d due course......

she is using the cloak of denial to avoid facing two realities -----1. she has to wake up to d fact her sister is no more n much as she may hate it, samrat unfortunately was at d wheels that day, does this mean if sum1 else was there d accident cud have been avoided......no....thats d only realization she needs to wake up to.....death was her sister's destiny, blaming someone for her loss cannot bring back her sister, its only going to add onto her turmoils d day she ends her self imposed exile to the path of love.....she cud have healed more easily leveraging the strength of samrat's love had samrat not been d one driving d car but fate seems to be winning now since she seems to be succumbing to her internal pressure to withdraw from her biggest strength ie. her love which she is currently busy castigating as d reason for her pain........-----2. they say right when u lose the basic sanity u find some twisted pleasure in torturing yourself......unknowingly may be she thinks she is serving a penance by continuing to live in denial n denying herself the happiness she deserves or d forgiveness samrat is due to.......but she is so mistaken ......she is continuing to hurt the memories of her beautiful loving sister by her acts......she needs to wake up n see wud nupur have been happy to see her like this, positions reversed will she be happy seeing nupur in her place like this.....no right???

in her love for her sister she is unknowingly judging samrat very harshly, but as the beautiful saying goes We can never judge the lives of others, because each person knows only their own pain and renunciation. It's one thing to feel that you are on the right path, but it's another to think that yours is the only path. If you judge people, you have no time to love them..The more one judges, the less one love......that shows that while hugging the path of denial n holding samrat responsible for a freak twisted game of fate, all she is doing is running away from d path of love......

only one question remains to be answered by all three of them.....for how long??????

sorry thoda zyada ho gaya😆😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: meens1981

aarthi brilliant post sweetheart👏👏👏👏👏......first of all big hug 🤗to u for the way u protrayed the sense of loss in all three of them.......it was indeed very touching

i told u just yest am not coming to IF forum but ur topic just forced me to 😆😆

Well I have a slightly diff perspective .........for all three of them- samrat, mayank and gunjan but the most powerful one is that of nupur........she told mayank exactly what everyone else needs to do -is to forget and move on.....its very easy to say but so tough to even imagine.....death is such a painful thing.....d person who dies always finds peace in sum form through death.....at least we assume that....but the person worst affected is the one who is left behind......is int it so very unfair to be left behind???? but when has life ever been fair or is it always fair but we just fail to realize the realities while we are busy taking everything that comes our way for granted........a question one can never easily find an answer to

Mayank........he is going through such a tough phase........samrat and gunjan survived and may be some day they will get together.....but for mayank a meaning of togetherness died the day nupur left him.........i have been the one to believe that when a loved one leaves us, the only way that we can continue to live is to live with the gift of beautiful memories the person has bestowed on u.....its second best to having the person with u .......memories cannot be ever removed as long as u believe in d power they bring.....they r urs to create, cherish and live n u can remember them d way u want to....thankfully god has made one thing that no one can snatch or taint or touch, much as they may try to and he never put a restriction on the same.....yes thats d magic n d power of memories.....the way u percieve them shall decide whether u can continue to live every moment or u shall continue to die every second,....(diff between sec n moment....second is just meaningless time that shall look unbearable when u carry d baggage but moment is personalized time of urs with that sumone special which even d passage of time cant change or tamper with )........thats y i loved nupur's take....she wants to move on coz the only way in such tragic accidents, one can ever heal themselves is by making an attempt to move on.....by moving on do we mean forget the person, forget that they were ever part of our lives, forget that we believed a life which just was so full of mutual love n understanding......no never...... moving on means respect the aspect of love over hatred.........when fate is unfair to us, we are left with two choices--- we can either let fate win by living in denial and hatredness for d injustice belied to us or we can believe in the power of love, a beautiful gift with which the angel in question touched ur life with, we can honor the person's memory by continuing to remember them in happy n sad memories but with a perspective to draw strength from their memories to live on.....death can only be ever physical coz a person who has had the fortune to experience love shall become immortal forever to those whose life he or she has touched , death may spearate us physically from our loved one but no one can separate us from the love we feel for them, when we relive them in our memories........mayank may be on the road to that....but does that mean he can get over nupur.......loss of a loved one is a like a unseen void which much as u may try u can ignore but u can never forget....it stays with u just like ur vital organs, like d breathe u take......of-course d diff lies in how we keep our loved one alive even after death.........that shall decide the victory or defeat fate managed to throw upon u by its act....fair or unfair ....u can still decide.....all u need to do is heal

coming to samrat......am not sure how to judge his penance.....he is paying for a fault or sin which he never committed, yet he so committed it by d sheer ignorance of his confidence n unfortunate presence in d wrong place at wrong time......okie dont come to hit me.......am not blaming samrat.....all i am saying is life when cornered by darkness of death, all that revolves in ur mind is what if, if only's........sure it was a break failure no doubt .......but the only question the one indirectly is being held responsible for a sin he didnt commit is, cud he averted the accident had he gone slow, may be d breaks still wud have failed but d impact cud have been less had the speed of the car been in control........welll yes those r d thots of a heart in delusion wanting to lay d blame on sumone, for d loss they r suffering from....

yep am talking about gunjan......as a sister i can so understand her pain.....frankly i dont know in wat perspective CVs have made her indifferent and cold towards samrat but the prime reason i see for her behavior is samrat reminds her of the what if's n if onlys' , that cud have, may be a just a little bit helped in avoiding her sister's death........if she had forgiven samrat then n there believing in d power of her love n treating it as a freak accident , it deffo wud not have been natural coz everyday she wud have lived to hate samrat......gunjan is in d phase of denial but not without justification....every time she comes across samrat she will think if only samrat had listened to her n slowed down may b d repercussions wud not be so bad...........imagine when u lose the person who is an integral part of ur life n by some twisted game of fate it happens to be dat d reason u lost the person was becoz of d love of ur life.......how shattering it will be for d mind n heart to come to peace.......its like ur soul was d reason ur spirit got destroyed........yes samrat was not responsible directly but who is to tell d heart which is busy living the pain n loneliness n vacuum of a lifetime???, who can make it understand d abject realities of life?????, d person who left or d person who is left behind????? pain is so weird that it makes us visualize d most impossible of d possibilities that a sane mind wud fear from thinking aloud ...yes when in denial "if only" sounds like heaven coz it allows u to stay in d state of denial n lash out n bombard sum 1 with d blame of ur loss.......but does this mean she doesnt love samrat or she has killed their love n d old gunjan d way she claims......no not at all...n d day she realizes this, her pain is only going to double; not only was she suffering from d loss of her sister, she is also suffering from d loss of her love n d hurt she managed to bring to samrat in d due course......

she is using the cloak of denial to avoid facing two realities -----1. she has to wake up to d fact her sister is no more n much as she may hate it, samrat unfortunately was at d wheels that day, does this mean if sum1 else was there d accident cud have been avoided......no....thats d only realization she needs to wake up to.....death was her sister's destiny, blaming someone for her loss cannot bring back her sister, its only going to add onto her turmoils d day she ends her self imposed exile to the path of love.....she cud have healed more easily leveraging the strength of samrat's love had samrat not been d one driving d car but fate seems to be winning now since she seems to be succumbing to her internal pressure to withdraw from her biggest strength ie. her love which she is currently busy castigating as d reason for her pain........-----2. they say right when u lose the basic sanity u find some twisted pleasure in torturing yourself......unknowingly may be she thinks she is serving a penance by continuing to live in denial n denying herself the happiness she deserves or d forgiveness samrat is due to.......but she is so mistaken ......she is continuing to hurt the memories of her beautiful loving sister by her acts......she needs to wake up n see wud nupur have been happy to see her like this, positions reversed will she be happy seeing nupur in her place like this.....no right???

in her love for her sister she is unknowingly judging samrat very harshly, but as the beautiful saying goes We can never judge the lives of others, because each person knows only their own pain and renunciation. It's one thing to feel that you are on the right path, but it's another to think that yours is the only path. If you judge people, you have no time to love them..The more one judges, the less one love......that shows that while hugging the path of denial n holding samrat responsible for a freak twisted game of fate, all she is doing is running away from d path of love......

only one question remains to be answered by all three of them.....for how long??????

sorry thoda zyada ho gaya😆😆

meens sweety..............gosh 😲😲😲 i am speachless.... what take meens... ClapClapClap but frankly u have said exactly i wanted to hear .... the answers to my nagging questions as why in 3 years have they not been able to move ahead nor they have been able to forgive him... and if the reasons are justified ... and bang on, your each word gave me the answers ... see thats why i call u my soul sister 😆😆..
@ bold ---- meens honestly i dont know how to put my words .. mayank has moved with his memories and its these memories at times brings that bitterness in him and yes agreed with these momories u live each moment or die the take is yours .. at one moment mayank has moved in life yet the next sec his memories does not allow him to forgive samrat as he feels forgiving him and moving ahead will deny him of his past .. and he has to understand

that When you forgive, you in no way change the past - but you sure do change the future for the person in question... here samrat ...

@ pink -------.thats fate meens and that what we call destiny--- it was samrat who was the chosen one, it could have been mayank on driving seat and gunjan could be one who would have died .. his only mistake was his confidence at wrong time ... and its the if and only ifs ' he could, he would have, not even caring for his life would have saved nupur... and the way he is leading his life with guilt,regret and with the hope of forgiveness is nothing less than hell -- his penance is done the day moment he blamed himself for nupurs death.. the last three years has been just the hope of forgiveness for a peaceful death...
@ red ----- gosh meens i was not all convinced with the reasons CVs gave for gunjan's deinal and her bitterness towards samrat .. but yes with your view point i agree that gunjan is in d phase of denial but not without justification. yep she has to understand death was her sister's destiny, blaming someone for her loss cannot bring back her sister, denying herself the happiness she deserves or d forgiveness samrat is due to will not change the past and the truth...
yep with all this what remains is how long it is going to take for all three to forgive and move ahead ...
Edited by aarthi.ramani - 15 years ago
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gosh what a beautiful post aarthi!...be back soon with my input😉
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I can only n only forgive if and only if my Nupur(Rati) is back. This is the Biggest Truth for me.

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gosh what a beautiful post aarthi!...be back soon with my input😉

thanks ginzs waiting for ur input ... 😉
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: mehak03

beautiful post

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mayank, gunjan and samrat faced such huge losses at such a young age but they did not ruined thier lives!..all three of them are successful and giving positive messages to the youth around!...and for potraying them in this way CVs also deserve a clap!👏

samrat is asking for!...forgiveness!... bcz it was not his fault!...and now mayank and gunjan will have to realize it!


thanks mehak agreed with u yes all three have faced a huge loss at a young age and may be thats the reason why at the time of the accident they blamed samrat for it which is natural for us to do that without accepting the truth...but now being matured they will understand that it was not samrat's fault and that it was destiny... and ones they accept nupur death as an accident .. it will be easier for them to forgive...
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hey meena awesome gal👏i agree with everything u say .samrat is paying 4 the sins he didnt commit..mayank n gunjan r both blaming samrat.but not realsing in pain was sam responsible no ways .if samrat hadnt been behind the wheels n someone else had been they would have held him/her resposible..they r stuck on what if?? they r not realising nupur bhushans death was not avoidable it was written in destiny if it had not happened this way then it would have happened some other way..samrat has just been made scape goat for no fault of his..as nupur death happened because of break failure in the car..but in blaming samrat they have forgotten samrat drove fast bec nupur n maynak them selves told him too do so.....majan in their pain have forgotten samrat is going thru same pain.his pain is more then them as he has lost his all friends n his love his life..gunjan n mayank have forgotten that in not forgiving samrat n each other n not being happy they r giving nupur pain as nupur would never have been happy to see all 3 like this n seperated .gunjan marriage to samrat was nupurs dream also....when gunjan will realise this that by punishing samrat 4 no fault of his she has hurt samrat more then after this realisation she will be more hurt n sad as she hurt the one person who after her sister meant more to her then her own life..i can understand gunjans pain as well but by not accepting nupur death as an accident which happened bec it was written she is only giving herself more pain .she is living in vaccum n denial mode thinking of what ifs but what if never solved anything atall it only increases the pain n when gunjan comes out of her denial mode then her pain is going to intensify just by thinking that in her pain what she has done to samrat the love of her life..she has to accept nupurs death n come out of denial mode she has put herself in .she has to realise that she is giving nupurs soul more pain by not being happy .as nupur herself wanted sajans unity n marriage..and running never solves anything.it only intesifies n increases ur problems n pain more..these 2 mayank , gunjan has to realise this fact that samrat wasnt resposible at all ..n they have to forgive each other as well n be with each other ..these 3 need each other like a thirsty man needs water.only sharing the pain with one another can lessen the impact of bad memories n pain..n only when these 3 samrat, gunjan ,mayank r together only then their deep pain will go away n bad memories will fade n then only they will be happy n move ahead n learn to live with good memories of nupur..and only after sajan n sayanks unity this can happen ..i hope we get sayank n sajan unity soon .i wish gunjan realises soon that she is blaming samrat for an accident which wasnt his fault at all .i hope samrat n gunjan unite soon n we get to see sajan love track n later sajan getting married to each other..
they all r punishing themselves for something which was not their fault atall ..mayank punishing samrat n himself as well ..gunjan also doing the same thing and even samrat is blaming himself .mayank samrat n gunjan should forgive them selves n each other as well as only after forgiving themselves n each other n sharing their pain n loss with one another only then they will be able to heel n be happy in life.
and as they say "TO ERR IS HUMAN TO FORGIVE DIVINE"
AND I HOPE THEY REALISE THEIR MISTAKES N UNITE SOON N BECOME SAYANK N SAJAN AGAIN
Edited by 1gunjan7 - 15 years ago

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