doubts in samrat's realization - Page 2

when I saw the realisation I did not feel that lust was playing a big factor in it...

Originally posted by: sw_tvfan

when I saw the realisation I did not feel that lust was playing a big factor in it...

But now that you mentioned it it sure does like neck kiss definitely had a big contribution in realisation....

I really wish they stop showing intimate scenes between both couples....I know I am an minority here in saying so..since lot of people appreciated the kiss scenes...

at first even i didn't feel so but i was not very much satisfied n that KISS disturbed me, i was not satisfied with that.... once i started thinking abt realization n wen did this xctly happen
this is the only thing i got in my mind

Originally posted by: Tas

i think we cld see it positively too..it all started long bac..first whn sheena said gunjan loves u..bt tht time samrat was nt ready to believe at all..thn whn sheena came to the jail and said all those things..tht was the time whn samrat first entertained the thought tht gunjan cld be more thn frnd for him..so he was lost frm tht day..we cld see a different samrat who was always dreaming..he started feeling akward and all..and thn the way gunjan used to help him he had realised tht gunjan is more thn a frnd..thn the court hug..this all gave his feelings a rush..he knew it was something more thn frndship..bt wht????he hadnt realised tht yet..thn the scene before khabar nahi where he goes very near and removes tht sparkle frm her hair..tht time more or less he had realised his love..bt yet being our dumbo..he didnt agree..bt thn the whole kabhar nahi sequence and finally tht imaginary kiss on the neck came as the final grand realisation of his love..nt coz love means lust..bt bcoz he realised tht for a frnd he wld have never thought something like tht..if he wld have considered gunjan only a frnd thn he wld have never dared to think abt kissing her..coz he cares for her wayyyy too much to think tht..bt now whn he started imagining all those things..he realised tht its more thn frndship..its love..innocent & pure love and gunjan is his world..so he didnt return back the frndship bracelet..which btw i loved ..the way he nodded his head to say he doesnt have the band way too cute..so i think though the realisation had started long back ...the final acceptance was after the dream..though slow it was very logical.

I see what you're getting at but I look at it another way.
What is love between a guy and a girl? It's emotional bonding plus attraction. Without that attraction, you're just friends - and that happens for most people in college - you don't fall in love with everyone. You have a whole bunch of friends, but what makes one person special is a certain something you start feeling for them, which is more than friendship. You want to spend more time with them, you want to be alone with that person, and definitely attraction is a part of that feeling.

For Samrat, the emotional closeness has been there for ages, even when he was with Sheena, he always wanted to spend time with Gunjan. But because she was so removed from his own idea of what his grilfriends should be like - he always thought the hottest girls had to be his girlfriends - he never actually realised that he could be attracted to Gunjan in that way, or maybe he never allowed himself to think of her that way - which could be the explanation of his statements that he was not worthy of her. That was why he always insisted that they were only friends. After Sheena made his doubts start, he has been feeling awkward around Gunjan, because he's become conscious of her not just as a friend, but as a girl, and all those hand touches which had become very casual between them, started becoming more awkward.

The two scenes were actually very logically done - he's removed flour from her hair before, but the way he removed the sparkles was very different ... and that led to his fantasizing the kiss ... which has made him realise that she's much more than just a friend, because he's looking at her so differently. SG were always very cute - but they needed that spark to set off the romance, and I feel that's what has happened. It's not just lust - lust happens when you don't care for a person but just have a physical attraction. This is love - the attraction has happened way after the emotional closeness happened.

Sorry for the long post!!!

Kavya..its depends on you what you wanna highlight on..they showed multiple factors leading to the Aceeptance more than realization in my point of view..so after sheena blabbered her way out..sam started thinking on those lines..and acc to me he had started realizing subconsiously right after but was in outward denial about it..what gave it in was the hug in the courtroom..thats the first time he felt immense attraction towards gunjan that he hadnt felt before..hence the awkwardness..the chemistry in the glitter scene...leading to his dream..the aur pass one..

by then there was no way to run for him.. he had to accept the fact that this wasnt friendship after all..n there was nothing wrong in thinking about her this way..coz he had repirmanded himself ever since the jial track for being attracted towards her..the REALIZATION..was the phase after that..when he DIDNOT want gunjan to have the friendship band..as he didnot see it as friendship anymore...so you have to take everything together..the i love gunjan bit came as a sudden awakening..but then i can discount the jerky transition..

I was thinking of how else could they have shown it..n dint come with a better alternative that could erase the FRIENDSHIP mania from his heart...then again Attraction is the first stepping stone towards something special..i still have my definitions for love mixed up..so wont even venture there..hope i made my point here

Originally posted by: myownarea

@Kavya - valid point!

There is a point I want to make here, mostly to the CVs, there is a world of difference between love n lust.. That dream kiss was totally uncalled for in the circumstances. Its one thing to enjoy the kiss (which if people did, I dont have problem with that! I'll just take the reason as they had been dying to see something like that) ..but another to actually have a kiss portrayed at such a stage of the relationship...I thought it outrageous to come up with such a neck-kiss Idea when Samrat was supposed to be realising..
What were the cvs trying to prove?
That S find G unattractive so if he dreams of kissing her, that means he is in love
That lusting about your best friend means you are in love (I would suggest getting ur head checked)
...
I could go on and on..but I dont want to.

They had it all going for them a good friendship as basis, lots of emotional bonding, a 3rd person to hammer truth into Sam's head....it could have been a realisation through various actions, physical attraction without lust...with love...definitely NOT with lust!

I totally agree, Divz....these are my exact thoughts on the subject as well....especially the last para....SG had a cutesy, sweet aura to them that was their USP....I have no clue what the creatives were trying to go for with the neck kiss....I think it took away from what SG are....portrayed Samrat in a very weird light....he's never even kissed any of the other chicks he was fluttering around with since the beginning but with G, he randomly jumps to directly imagining that sort of kiss?? A cheek or forehead kiss would have been better if they were oh so desperate to show romantic SG moments....the neck kiss took this into a wholly unnecessary category....that's my opinion....no offence to all the ppl enjoying this. And on top of that it was shot very weirdly too.

Agree with u Kavya in a way...but i thought it was really during KN and immediately after taht...i dont think the kiss scene really had an impact on him...i didnt see that from that perspective...atleast didnt interprete so!!

Originally posted by: DiyaS

I see what you're getting at but I look at it another way.
What is love between a guy and a girl? It's emotional bonding plus attraction. Without that attraction, you're just friends - and that happens for most people in college - you don't fall in love with everyone. You have a whole bunch of friends, but what makes one person special is a certain something you start feeling for them, which is more than friendship. You want to spend more time with them, you want to be alone with that person, and definitely attraction is a part of that feeling.

For Samrat, the emotional closeness has been there for ages, even when he was with Sheena, he always wanted to spend time with Gunjan. But because she was so removed from his own idea of what his grilfriends should be like - he always thought the hottest girls had to be his girlfriends - he never actually realised that he could be attracted to Gunjan in that way, or maybe he never allowed himself to think of her that way - which could be the explanation of his statements that he was not worthy of her. That was why he always insisted that they were only friends. After Sheena made his doubts start, he has been feeling awkward around Gunjan, because he's become conscious of her not just as a friend, but as a girl, and all those hand touches which had become very casual between them, started becoming more awkward.

The two scenes were actually very logically done - he's removed flour from her hair before, but the way he removed the sparkles was very different ... and that led to his fantasizing the kiss ... which has made him realise that she's much more than just a friend, because he's looking at her so differently. SG were always very cute - but they needed that spark to set off the romance, and I feel that's what has happened. It's not just lust - lust happens when you don't care for a person but just have a physical attraction. This is love - the attraction has happened way after the emotional closeness happened.

Sorry for the long post!!!

Originally posted by: nureat01

<br><br>I totally agree, Divz....these are my exact thoughts on the subject as well....especially the last para....SG had a cutesy, sweet aura to them that was their USP....I have no clue what the creatives were trying to go for with the neck kiss....I think it took away from what SG are....portrayed Samrat in a very weird light....he's never even kissed any of the other chicks he was fluttering around with since the beginning but with G, he randomly jumps to directly imagining that sort of kiss?? A cheek or forehead kiss would have been better if they were oh so desperate to show romantic SG moments....the neck kiss took this into a wholly unnecessary category....that's my opinion....no offence to all the ppl enjoying this. And on top of that it was shot very weirdly too.<br>

@bold -Exactly Anu, if it were a cheek or forehead kiss, it would have gone alright with the sweet premise created for SG. (this is ofcourse if they thought it imperative to include a kiss).